Does the Absorb Elements spell combine with a sorcerer's Distant Spell metamagic option?












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According to the answers to the question "Is a melee spell attack also a melee attack?", a melee spell attack is a melee attack. Meaning that if I were to cast absorb elements after being hit by a fire bolt, I can add 1d6 fire damage to my next shocking grasp.



As a sorcerer, could I combine this with the Distant Spell Metamagic option?



Using a sorcery point allows me to give a touch-range spell a range of 30 feet instead. Is shocking grasp now a melee spell attack with a range of 30 feet, and therefore eligible for the extra damage granted by absorb elements?






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    According to the answers to the question "Is a melee spell attack also a melee attack?", a melee spell attack is a melee attack. Meaning that if I were to cast absorb elements after being hit by a fire bolt, I can add 1d6 fire damage to my next shocking grasp.



    As a sorcerer, could I combine this with the Distant Spell Metamagic option?



    Using a sorcery point allows me to give a touch-range spell a range of 30 feet instead. Is shocking grasp now a melee spell attack with a range of 30 feet, and therefore eligible for the extra damage granted by absorb elements?






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      According to the answers to the question "Is a melee spell attack also a melee attack?", a melee spell attack is a melee attack. Meaning that if I were to cast absorb elements after being hit by a fire bolt, I can add 1d6 fire damage to my next shocking grasp.



      As a sorcerer, could I combine this with the Distant Spell Metamagic option?



      Using a sorcery point allows me to give a touch-range spell a range of 30 feet instead. Is shocking grasp now a melee spell attack with a range of 30 feet, and therefore eligible for the extra damage granted by absorb elements?






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      According to the answers to the question "Is a melee spell attack also a melee attack?", a melee spell attack is a melee attack. Meaning that if I were to cast absorb elements after being hit by a fire bolt, I can add 1d6 fire damage to my next shocking grasp.



      As a sorcerer, could I combine this with the Distant Spell Metamagic option?



      Using a sorcery point allows me to give a touch-range spell a range of 30 feet instead. Is shocking grasp now a melee spell attack with a range of 30 feet, and therefore eligible for the extra damage granted by absorb elements?






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          Yes, because the spell is still a melee spell



          Looking at Sage Advice (see quote below) the Distant Spell Metamagic just adds a range of 30ft as you've said, but the spell is still considered a melee spell, thus a melee attack so you can add the 1d6 fire damage to it.




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          @JeremyECrawford If you use distant spell on a touch spell like shocking grasp, is it still considered a melee spell attack? I know steel wind strike is a spell that melee spell attack with a range of 30ft, are distant touch spells like that?



          Jeremy Crawford Distant Spell changes range. It doesn't change anything else about a spell. #DnD







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            Yes.



            From the PHB (emphasis mine) :




            Most creatures have a 5-foot reach and can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack. Certain creatures (typically those larger than Medium) have melee attacks with a greater reach than 5 feet, as noted in their descriptions.




            The distance doesn't seem to matter, as long as you have the reach, you can make a melee attack. Distant spell gives you the reach, Shocking Grasp makes you do a melee attack, thus the effect triggers.






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              Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
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            Yes, because the spell is still a melee spell



            Looking at Sage Advice (see quote below) the Distant Spell Metamagic just adds a range of 30ft as you've said, but the spell is still considered a melee spell, thus a melee attack so you can add the 1d6 fire damage to it.




            Ironforged
            @JeremyECrawford If you use distant spell on a touch spell like shocking grasp, is it still considered a melee spell attack? I know steel wind strike is a spell that melee spell attack with a range of 30ft, are distant touch spells like that?



            Jeremy Crawford Distant Spell changes range. It doesn't change anything else about a spell. #DnD







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              Yes, because the spell is still a melee spell



              Looking at Sage Advice (see quote below) the Distant Spell Metamagic just adds a range of 30ft as you've said, but the spell is still considered a melee spell, thus a melee attack so you can add the 1d6 fire damage to it.




              Ironforged
              @JeremyECrawford If you use distant spell on a touch spell like shocking grasp, is it still considered a melee spell attack? I know steel wind strike is a spell that melee spell attack with a range of 30ft, are distant touch spells like that?



              Jeremy Crawford Distant Spell changes range. It doesn't change anything else about a spell. #DnD







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                Yes, because the spell is still a melee spell



                Looking at Sage Advice (see quote below) the Distant Spell Metamagic just adds a range of 30ft as you've said, but the spell is still considered a melee spell, thus a melee attack so you can add the 1d6 fire damage to it.




                Ironforged
                @JeremyECrawford If you use distant spell on a touch spell like shocking grasp, is it still considered a melee spell attack? I know steel wind strike is a spell that melee spell attack with a range of 30ft, are distant touch spells like that?



                Jeremy Crawford Distant Spell changes range. It doesn't change anything else about a spell. #DnD







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                Yes, because the spell is still a melee spell



                Looking at Sage Advice (see quote below) the Distant Spell Metamagic just adds a range of 30ft as you've said, but the spell is still considered a melee spell, thus a melee attack so you can add the 1d6 fire damage to it.




                Ironforged
                @JeremyECrawford If you use distant spell on a touch spell like shocking grasp, is it still considered a melee spell attack? I know steel wind strike is a spell that melee spell attack with a range of 30ft, are distant touch spells like that?



                Jeremy Crawford Distant Spell changes range. It doesn't change anything else about a spell. #DnD








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                    Yes.



                    From the PHB (emphasis mine) :




                    Most creatures have a 5-foot reach and can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack. Certain creatures (typically those larger than Medium) have melee attacks with a greater reach than 5 feet, as noted in their descriptions.




                    The distance doesn't seem to matter, as long as you have the reach, you can make a melee attack. Distant spell gives you the reach, Shocking Grasp makes you do a melee attack, thus the effect triggers.






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                      Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
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                    Yes.



                    From the PHB (emphasis mine) :




                    Most creatures have a 5-foot reach and can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack. Certain creatures (typically those larger than Medium) have melee attacks with a greater reach than 5 feet, as noted in their descriptions.




                    The distance doesn't seem to matter, as long as you have the reach, you can make a melee attack. Distant spell gives you the reach, Shocking Grasp makes you do a melee attack, thus the effect triggers.






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                      Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
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                    Yes.



                    From the PHB (emphasis mine) :




                    Most creatures have a 5-foot reach and can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack. Certain creatures (typically those larger than Medium) have melee attacks with a greater reach than 5 feet, as noted in their descriptions.




                    The distance doesn't seem to matter, as long as you have the reach, you can make a melee attack. Distant spell gives you the reach, Shocking Grasp makes you do a melee attack, thus the effect triggers.






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                    Yes.



                    From the PHB (emphasis mine) :




                    Most creatures have a 5-foot reach and can thus attack targets within 5 feet of them when making a melee attack. Certain creatures (typically those larger than Medium) have melee attacks with a greater reach than 5 feet, as noted in their descriptions.




                    The distance doesn't seem to matter, as long as you have the reach, you can make a melee attack. Distant spell gives you the reach, Shocking Grasp makes you do a melee attack, thus the effect triggers.







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                      $begingroup$
                      Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
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                      – Peter Cordes
                      Jan 4 at 22:15
















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                      $begingroup$
                      Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Peter Cordes
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                    $begingroup$
                    Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
                    $endgroup$
                    – Peter Cordes
                    Jan 4 at 22:15






                    $begingroup$
                    Another example is Bigby's Hand (dnd-spells.com/spell/bigbys-hand): you magically control an object that can make a Melee Spell Attack on your behalf. It might make sense to think of Distant Spell as applying Touch spells through a magic object that touches the target, maybe instead of the spell going out through your fingers and becoming a melee attack with huge reach.
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                    – Peter Cordes
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