Proving $a_{0} = 1$, $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_{n}}$ converges to the golden ratio [duplicate]












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Define $a_{0} = 1$ and $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_{0}}$.



Then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} a_{n} = sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + ldots }}}} $$



So I let $x = sqrt{1 + sqrt{ 1 + ldots }}$. Then we have



$$x = sqrt{1 + x} Longleftrightarrow x = frac{1 pm sqrt{5}}{2}.$$



So I think it converges to the golden ratio. But how can I prove this? Clearly, it's monotone increasing. Now I can just show the golden ratio is a supremum for the sequence. But how can I do that? (Monotone Convergence Theorem)










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  • Also: math.stackexchange.com/q/115501/42969.
    – Martin R
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  • It is of the form $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ with $f$ differentiable such that $|f'(varphi)|<1$; as such it is a consequence of (one of) the fixed point theorem(s).
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    Nov 27 '18 at 18:32
















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  • Prove that the limit of this sequence is $frac{1}{2}(1 + sqrt{5})$

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Define $a_{0} = 1$ and $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_{0}}$.



Then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} a_{n} = sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + ldots }}}} $$



So I let $x = sqrt{1 + sqrt{ 1 + ldots }}$. Then we have



$$x = sqrt{1 + x} Longleftrightarrow x = frac{1 pm sqrt{5}}{2}.$$



So I think it converges to the golden ratio. But how can I prove this? Clearly, it's monotone increasing. Now I can just show the golden ratio is a supremum for the sequence. But how can I do that? (Monotone Convergence Theorem)










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marked as duplicate by Martin R, man on laptop, Davide Giraudo, KReiser, Shailesh Nov 28 '18 at 0:53


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  • Also: math.stackexchange.com/q/115501/42969.
    – Martin R
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:17










  • It is of the form $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ with $f$ differentiable such that $|f'(varphi)|<1$; as such it is a consequence of (one of) the fixed point theorem(s).
    – Jean Marie
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:32














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This question already has an answer here:




  • Prove that the limit of this sequence is $frac{1}{2}(1 + sqrt{5})$

    4 answers




Define $a_{0} = 1$ and $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_{0}}$.



Then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} a_{n} = sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + ldots }}}} $$



So I let $x = sqrt{1 + sqrt{ 1 + ldots }}$. Then we have



$$x = sqrt{1 + x} Longleftrightarrow x = frac{1 pm sqrt{5}}{2}.$$



So I think it converges to the golden ratio. But how can I prove this? Clearly, it's monotone increasing. Now I can just show the golden ratio is a supremum for the sequence. But how can I do that? (Monotone Convergence Theorem)










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  • Prove that the limit of this sequence is $frac{1}{2}(1 + sqrt{5})$

    4 answers




Define $a_{0} = 1$ and $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_{0}}$.



Then we have



$$lim_{ntoinfty} a_{n} = sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + sqrt{1 + ldots }}}} $$



So I let $x = sqrt{1 + sqrt{ 1 + ldots }}$. Then we have



$$x = sqrt{1 + x} Longleftrightarrow x = frac{1 pm sqrt{5}}{2}.$$



So I think it converges to the golden ratio. But how can I prove this? Clearly, it's monotone increasing. Now I can just show the golden ratio is a supremum for the sequence. But how can I do that? (Monotone Convergence Theorem)





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  • Prove that the limit of this sequence is $frac{1}{2}(1 + sqrt{5})$

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marked as duplicate by Martin R, man on laptop, Davide Giraudo, KReiser, Shailesh Nov 28 '18 at 0:53


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marked as duplicate by Martin R, man on laptop, Davide Giraudo, KReiser, Shailesh Nov 28 '18 at 0:53


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  • Also: math.stackexchange.com/q/115501/42969.
    – Martin R
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:17










  • It is of the form $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ with $f$ differentiable such that $|f'(varphi)|<1$; as such it is a consequence of (one of) the fixed point theorem(s).
    – Jean Marie
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:32


















  • Also: math.stackexchange.com/q/115501/42969.
    – Martin R
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:17










  • It is of the form $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ with $f$ differentiable such that $|f'(varphi)|<1$; as such it is a consequence of (one of) the fixed point theorem(s).
    – Jean Marie
    Nov 27 '18 at 18:32
















Also: math.stackexchange.com/q/115501/42969.
– Martin R
Nov 27 '18 at 18:17




Also: math.stackexchange.com/q/115501/42969.
– Martin R
Nov 27 '18 at 18:17












It is of the form $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ with $f$ differentiable such that $|f'(varphi)|<1$; as such it is a consequence of (one of) the fixed point theorem(s).
– Jean Marie
Nov 27 '18 at 18:32




It is of the form $a_{n+1}=f(a_n)$ with $f$ differentiable such that $|f'(varphi)|<1$; as such it is a consequence of (one of) the fixed point theorem(s).
– Jean Marie
Nov 27 '18 at 18:32










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You already know the sequence is increasing. In order to use the monotone convergence theorem, you need to show it's bounded as well. If $a_n < 2$ for some $n$, then



$$a_{n + 1}^2 = 1 + a_n < 3 < 4 implies a_{n + 1} < 2$$



since the terms are positive. Hence, the sequence is bounded and convergent.





Now since $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_n}$, it is valid to take a limit on both sides and find that the limit $L$ satisfies $L = sqrt{1 + L}$, and you're pretty close to being done.






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Define $$a_n=b_n+phi$$where $phi $ is the famous Golden Ratio. Therefore $$a_{n+1}=b_{n+1}+phi=sqrt{1+a_n}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}$$where the third equality comes from the definition of $phi$. This yields to $$b_{n+1}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}-phi ={b_n+phi +1-phi ^2over phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}={b_nover phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}$$therefore $$|b_{n+1}|le {|b_n|over phi}$$which means that $b_nto 0$ and $a_nto phi$






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    In this answer,
    Question on sequences and induction,
    I showed that if
    $a_{n+1} = sqrt{a_n+k}$
    where
    $k > 0$
    then
    $lim_{n to infty} a_n
    = d+1$

    where
    $d^2+d = k$,
    so
    $d = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}-1}{2}$
    and
    $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}+1}{2}$.



    When $k = 1$,
    $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{5}+1}{2}$.






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      You already know the sequence is increasing. In order to use the monotone convergence theorem, you need to show it's bounded as well. If $a_n < 2$ for some $n$, then



      $$a_{n + 1}^2 = 1 + a_n < 3 < 4 implies a_{n + 1} < 2$$



      since the terms are positive. Hence, the sequence is bounded and convergent.





      Now since $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_n}$, it is valid to take a limit on both sides and find that the limit $L$ satisfies $L = sqrt{1 + L}$, and you're pretty close to being done.






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      • @Masacroso Thanks!
        – T. Bongers
        Nov 27 '18 at 18:45
















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      You already know the sequence is increasing. In order to use the monotone convergence theorem, you need to show it's bounded as well. If $a_n < 2$ for some $n$, then



      $$a_{n + 1}^2 = 1 + a_n < 3 < 4 implies a_{n + 1} < 2$$



      since the terms are positive. Hence, the sequence is bounded and convergent.





      Now since $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_n}$, it is valid to take a limit on both sides and find that the limit $L$ satisfies $L = sqrt{1 + L}$, and you're pretty close to being done.






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      • @Masacroso Thanks!
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        Nov 27 '18 at 18:45














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      You already know the sequence is increasing. In order to use the monotone convergence theorem, you need to show it's bounded as well. If $a_n < 2$ for some $n$, then



      $$a_{n + 1}^2 = 1 + a_n < 3 < 4 implies a_{n + 1} < 2$$



      since the terms are positive. Hence, the sequence is bounded and convergent.





      Now since $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_n}$, it is valid to take a limit on both sides and find that the limit $L$ satisfies $L = sqrt{1 + L}$, and you're pretty close to being done.






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      You already know the sequence is increasing. In order to use the monotone convergence theorem, you need to show it's bounded as well. If $a_n < 2$ for some $n$, then



      $$a_{n + 1}^2 = 1 + a_n < 3 < 4 implies a_{n + 1} < 2$$



      since the terms are positive. Hence, the sequence is bounded and convergent.





      Now since $a_{n + 1} = sqrt{1 + a_n}$, it is valid to take a limit on both sides and find that the limit $L$ satisfies $L = sqrt{1 + L}$, and you're pretty close to being done.







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      • @Masacroso Thanks!
        – T. Bongers
        Nov 27 '18 at 18:45


















      • @Masacroso Thanks!
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        Nov 27 '18 at 18:45
















      @Masacroso Thanks!
      – T. Bongers
      Nov 27 '18 at 18:45




      @Masacroso Thanks!
      – T. Bongers
      Nov 27 '18 at 18:45











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      Define $$a_n=b_n+phi$$where $phi $ is the famous Golden Ratio. Therefore $$a_{n+1}=b_{n+1}+phi=sqrt{1+a_n}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}$$where the third equality comes from the definition of $phi$. This yields to $$b_{n+1}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}-phi ={b_n+phi +1-phi ^2over phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}={b_nover phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}$$therefore $$|b_{n+1}|le {|b_n|over phi}$$which means that $b_nto 0$ and $a_nto phi$






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        Define $$a_n=b_n+phi$$where $phi $ is the famous Golden Ratio. Therefore $$a_{n+1}=b_{n+1}+phi=sqrt{1+a_n}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}$$where the third equality comes from the definition of $phi$. This yields to $$b_{n+1}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}-phi ={b_n+phi +1-phi ^2over phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}={b_nover phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}$$therefore $$|b_{n+1}|le {|b_n|over phi}$$which means that $b_nto 0$ and $a_nto phi$






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          Define $$a_n=b_n+phi$$where $phi $ is the famous Golden Ratio. Therefore $$a_{n+1}=b_{n+1}+phi=sqrt{1+a_n}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}$$where the third equality comes from the definition of $phi$. This yields to $$b_{n+1}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}-phi ={b_n+phi +1-phi ^2over phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}={b_nover phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}$$therefore $$|b_{n+1}|le {|b_n|over phi}$$which means that $b_nto 0$ and $a_nto phi$






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          Define $$a_n=b_n+phi$$where $phi $ is the famous Golden Ratio. Therefore $$a_{n+1}=b_{n+1}+phi=sqrt{1+a_n}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}$$where the third equality comes from the definition of $phi$. This yields to $$b_{n+1}=sqrt{b_n+phi +1}-phi ={b_n+phi +1-phi ^2over phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}={b_nover phi +sqrt{b_n+phi +1}}$$therefore $$|b_{n+1}|le {|b_n|over phi}$$which means that $b_nto 0$ and $a_nto phi$







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              In this answer,
              Question on sequences and induction,
              I showed that if
              $a_{n+1} = sqrt{a_n+k}$
              where
              $k > 0$
              then
              $lim_{n to infty} a_n
              = d+1$

              where
              $d^2+d = k$,
              so
              $d = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}-1}{2}$
              and
              $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}+1}{2}$.



              When $k = 1$,
              $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{5}+1}{2}$.






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                In this answer,
                Question on sequences and induction,
                I showed that if
                $a_{n+1} = sqrt{a_n+k}$
                where
                $k > 0$
                then
                $lim_{n to infty} a_n
                = d+1$

                where
                $d^2+d = k$,
                so
                $d = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}-1}{2}$
                and
                $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}+1}{2}$.



                When $k = 1$,
                $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{5}+1}{2}$.






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                  In this answer,
                  Question on sequences and induction,
                  I showed that if
                  $a_{n+1} = sqrt{a_n+k}$
                  where
                  $k > 0$
                  then
                  $lim_{n to infty} a_n
                  = d+1$

                  where
                  $d^2+d = k$,
                  so
                  $d = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}-1}{2}$
                  and
                  $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}+1}{2}$.



                  When $k = 1$,
                  $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{5}+1}{2}$.






                  share|cite|improve this answer












                  In this answer,
                  Question on sequences and induction,
                  I showed that if
                  $a_{n+1} = sqrt{a_n+k}$
                  where
                  $k > 0$
                  then
                  $lim_{n to infty} a_n
                  = d+1$

                  where
                  $d^2+d = k$,
                  so
                  $d = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}-1}{2}$
                  and
                  $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{4k+1}+1}{2}$.



                  When $k = 1$,
                  $d+1 = dfrac{sqrt{5}+1}{2}$.







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                  answered Nov 27 '18 at 18:48









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