Determine if $x$ is in $H$ and if it is find $[x]_B$











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$$
v_1 = begin{bmatrix}
3 \
1 \
2
end{bmatrix}
$$

$$
v_2 = begin{bmatrix}
1 \
0 \
1
end{bmatrix}
$$

$$
x = begin{bmatrix}
9 \
2 \
7
end{bmatrix}
$$



$B = {v_1, v_2}$ is a basis for $H = mathrm{Span}{v_1, v:2}$.



Determine if $x$ is in $H$, and if it is, find the coordinate vector $[x]_B$ of $x$ relative to $B$.



So what I started to do was make the Matrix $[v_1 v_2 x]$:
$$
[v_1 v_2 x]=
begin{bmatrix}
3&1&9\
1&0&2\
2&1&7
end{bmatrix}
$$



and then computed the RREF
$$
begin{bmatrix}
1&0&2\
0&1&3\
0&0&0
end{bmatrix}
$$

This is where I get stuck, because there is zero row on the bottom so there is a free variable. Does this mean that $x$ is NOT in $H$?










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    $$
    v_1 = begin{bmatrix}
    3 \
    1 \
    2
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    $$
    v_2 = begin{bmatrix}
    1 \
    0 \
    1
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    $$
    x = begin{bmatrix}
    9 \
    2 \
    7
    end{bmatrix}
    $$



    $B = {v_1, v_2}$ is a basis for $H = mathrm{Span}{v_1, v:2}$.



    Determine if $x$ is in $H$, and if it is, find the coordinate vector $[x]_B$ of $x$ relative to $B$.



    So what I started to do was make the Matrix $[v_1 v_2 x]$:
    $$
    [v_1 v_2 x]=
    begin{bmatrix}
    3&1&9\
    1&0&2\
    2&1&7
    end{bmatrix}
    $$



    and then computed the RREF
    $$
    begin{bmatrix}
    1&0&2\
    0&1&3\
    0&0&0
    end{bmatrix}
    $$

    This is where I get stuck, because there is zero row on the bottom so there is a free variable. Does this mean that $x$ is NOT in $H$?










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      $$
      v_1 = begin{bmatrix}
      3 \
      1 \
      2
      end{bmatrix}
      $$

      $$
      v_2 = begin{bmatrix}
      1 \
      0 \
      1
      end{bmatrix}
      $$

      $$
      x = begin{bmatrix}
      9 \
      2 \
      7
      end{bmatrix}
      $$



      $B = {v_1, v_2}$ is a basis for $H = mathrm{Span}{v_1, v:2}$.



      Determine if $x$ is in $H$, and if it is, find the coordinate vector $[x]_B$ of $x$ relative to $B$.



      So what I started to do was make the Matrix $[v_1 v_2 x]$:
      $$
      [v_1 v_2 x]=
      begin{bmatrix}
      3&1&9\
      1&0&2\
      2&1&7
      end{bmatrix}
      $$



      and then computed the RREF
      $$
      begin{bmatrix}
      1&0&2\
      0&1&3\
      0&0&0
      end{bmatrix}
      $$

      This is where I get stuck, because there is zero row on the bottom so there is a free variable. Does this mean that $x$ is NOT in $H$?










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      $$
      v_1 = begin{bmatrix}
      3 \
      1 \
      2
      end{bmatrix}
      $$

      $$
      v_2 = begin{bmatrix}
      1 \
      0 \
      1
      end{bmatrix}
      $$

      $$
      x = begin{bmatrix}
      9 \
      2 \
      7
      end{bmatrix}
      $$



      $B = {v_1, v_2}$ is a basis for $H = mathrm{Span}{v_1, v:2}$.



      Determine if $x$ is in $H$, and if it is, find the coordinate vector $[x]_B$ of $x$ relative to $B$.



      So what I started to do was make the Matrix $[v_1 v_2 x]$:
      $$
      [v_1 v_2 x]=
      begin{bmatrix}
      3&1&9\
      1&0&2\
      2&1&7
      end{bmatrix}
      $$



      and then computed the RREF
      $$
      begin{bmatrix}
      1&0&2\
      0&1&3\
      0&0&0
      end{bmatrix}
      $$

      This is where I get stuck, because there is zero row on the bottom so there is a free variable. Does this mean that $x$ is NOT in $H$?







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          Note that $$2v_1+3v_2 = x $$ therefore the answer is yes.



          $x$ is in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2$






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            Your result means that $$x= 2v_1+3v_2$$



            I think you've lost track of what your computations mean. When you set up the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}
            3&1&9\
            1&0&2\
            2&1&7
            end{bmatrix}$$



            that is shorthand for the system of equations $$
            begin{align}
            3a+1b&=9\
            1a+0b&=2\
            2a+1b&=7
            end{align}$$

            that is to say $$av_1+bv_2 = x$$



            When you reduced the matrix to RREF you were effectively solving for $a$ and $b$.



            EDIT
            As for the last couple of sentences in your question, the row of zeros just means that $$0a+0b=0,$$ which is true, though not very interesting. If you had gotten a row like $$0 0 1$$
            at the bottom, that would mean $$0a+0b=1$$
            and since that's nonsense, it would mean that $x$ is not in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2.$






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              Note that $$2v_1+3v_2 = x $$ therefore the answer is yes.



              $x$ is in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2$






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                Note that $$2v_1+3v_2 = x $$ therefore the answer is yes.



                $x$ is in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2$






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                  Note that $$2v_1+3v_2 = x $$ therefore the answer is yes.



                  $x$ is in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2$






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                  Note that $$2v_1+3v_2 = x $$ therefore the answer is yes.



                  $x$ is in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2$







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                      Your result means that $$x= 2v_1+3v_2$$



                      I think you've lost track of what your computations mean. When you set up the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}
                      3&1&9\
                      1&0&2\
                      2&1&7
                      end{bmatrix}$$



                      that is shorthand for the system of equations $$
                      begin{align}
                      3a+1b&=9\
                      1a+0b&=2\
                      2a+1b&=7
                      end{align}$$

                      that is to say $$av_1+bv_2 = x$$



                      When you reduced the matrix to RREF you were effectively solving for $a$ and $b$.



                      EDIT
                      As for the last couple of sentences in your question, the row of zeros just means that $$0a+0b=0,$$ which is true, though not very interesting. If you had gotten a row like $$0 0 1$$
                      at the bottom, that would mean $$0a+0b=1$$
                      and since that's nonsense, it would mean that $x$ is not in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2.$






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                        Your result means that $$x= 2v_1+3v_2$$



                        I think you've lost track of what your computations mean. When you set up the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}
                        3&1&9\
                        1&0&2\
                        2&1&7
                        end{bmatrix}$$



                        that is shorthand for the system of equations $$
                        begin{align}
                        3a+1b&=9\
                        1a+0b&=2\
                        2a+1b&=7
                        end{align}$$

                        that is to say $$av_1+bv_2 = x$$



                        When you reduced the matrix to RREF you were effectively solving for $a$ and $b$.



                        EDIT
                        As for the last couple of sentences in your question, the row of zeros just means that $$0a+0b=0,$$ which is true, though not very interesting. If you had gotten a row like $$0 0 1$$
                        at the bottom, that would mean $$0a+0b=1$$
                        and since that's nonsense, it would mean that $x$ is not in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2.$






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                          Your result means that $$x= 2v_1+3v_2$$



                          I think you've lost track of what your computations mean. When you set up the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}
                          3&1&9\
                          1&0&2\
                          2&1&7
                          end{bmatrix}$$



                          that is shorthand for the system of equations $$
                          begin{align}
                          3a+1b&=9\
                          1a+0b&=2\
                          2a+1b&=7
                          end{align}$$

                          that is to say $$av_1+bv_2 = x$$



                          When you reduced the matrix to RREF you were effectively solving for $a$ and $b$.



                          EDIT
                          As for the last couple of sentences in your question, the row of zeros just means that $$0a+0b=0,$$ which is true, though not very interesting. If you had gotten a row like $$0 0 1$$
                          at the bottom, that would mean $$0a+0b=1$$
                          and since that's nonsense, it would mean that $x$ is not in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2.$






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                          Your result means that $$x= 2v_1+3v_2$$



                          I think you've lost track of what your computations mean. When you set up the matrix $$begin{bmatrix}
                          3&1&9\
                          1&0&2\
                          2&1&7
                          end{bmatrix}$$



                          that is shorthand for the system of equations $$
                          begin{align}
                          3a+1b&=9\
                          1a+0b&=2\
                          2a+1b&=7
                          end{align}$$

                          that is to say $$av_1+bv_2 = x$$



                          When you reduced the matrix to RREF you were effectively solving for $a$ and $b$.



                          EDIT
                          As for the last couple of sentences in your question, the row of zeros just means that $$0a+0b=0,$$ which is true, though not very interesting. If you had gotten a row like $$0 0 1$$
                          at the bottom, that would mean $$0a+0b=1$$
                          and since that's nonsense, it would mean that $x$ is not in the span of $v_1$ and $v_2.$







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