Olympiad Inequality $sumlimits_{cyc} frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$












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$x,y,z >0$, prove
$$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$$




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Often Stack Exchange asked to show some work before answering the question. This inequality was used as a proposal problem for National TST of an Asian country a few years back. However, upon receiving the official solution, the committee decided to drop this problem immediately. They don't believe that any students can solve this problem in 3 hour time frame.



Update 1: In this forum, some bragged that BW is the only solution for this problem, which is completely wrong and stupid. This problem is listed as "coffin problems" in my country. The official solution is very elementary and elegant.



Update 2: Although there are some solutions (or partial solution) based on numerical method, I am more interested in the approach with "pencil and papers." I think the approach by Peter Scholze in here may help.



Update 3: Michael has tried to apply Peter Scholze's method but not found the solution yet.



Update 4: Symbolic expanding with computer is employed and verify the inequality. However, detail solution that not involved computer has not been found. Whoever can solve this inequality using high school math knowledge will be considered as the "King of Inequality".










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    I have no idea about the official solution. I try this problem for the past 3 years but not yet success. Even with brute force, I still cannot solve it. This shows level of insanity this problem has.
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    A simple observation is that the inequality is homogeneous, so it suffices to prove the case $ x + y + z = 1 $. Wolfram helped me solve the mess of an equation system that arises out of Lagrange multipliers, so I am convinced that the inequality is true now. (I have no idea how to solve the system myself, so this doesn't really count as a solution.)
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    I believe that $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x^4}{ay^3+bz^3}geqfrac{x+y+z}{a+b}$, and why not $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x_n^4}{a_1x_1^3+ldots a_{n-1}x_{n-1}^3}geqfrac{x_1+ldots+x_{n-1}+x_n}{a_1+ldots+a_{n-1}+a_n}$ for $ngeq3$. Maybe the general case could be somehow helpful...
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$x,y,z >0$, prove
$$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$$




Note:
Often Stack Exchange asked to show some work before answering the question. This inequality was used as a proposal problem for National TST of an Asian country a few years back. However, upon receiving the official solution, the committee decided to drop this problem immediately. They don't believe that any students can solve this problem in 3 hour time frame.



Update 1: In this forum, some bragged that BW is the only solution for this problem, which is completely wrong and stupid. This problem is listed as "coffin problems" in my country. The official solution is very elementary and elegant.



Update 2: Although there are some solutions (or partial solution) based on numerical method, I am more interested in the approach with "pencil and papers." I think the approach by Peter Scholze in here may help.



Update 3: Michael has tried to apply Peter Scholze's method but not found the solution yet.



Update 4: Symbolic expanding with computer is employed and verify the inequality. However, detail solution that not involved computer has not been found. Whoever can solve this inequality using high school math knowledge will be considered as the "King of Inequality".










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    I have no idea about the official solution. I try this problem for the past 3 years but not yet success. Even with brute force, I still cannot solve it. This shows level of insanity this problem has.
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    Past 3 years!! I would have forgot it within 3 hrs
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    If you can solve it, I guess you are qualified for IMO
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    A simple observation is that the inequality is homogeneous, so it suffices to prove the case $ x + y + z = 1 $. Wolfram helped me solve the mess of an equation system that arises out of Lagrange multipliers, so I am convinced that the inequality is true now. (I have no idea how to solve the system myself, so this doesn't really count as a solution.)
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    I believe that $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x^4}{ay^3+bz^3}geqfrac{x+y+z}{a+b}$, and why not $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x_n^4}{a_1x_1^3+ldots a_{n-1}x_{n-1}^3}geqfrac{x_1+ldots+x_{n-1}+x_n}{a_1+ldots+a_{n-1}+a_n}$ for $ngeq3$. Maybe the general case could be somehow helpful...
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$x,y,z >0$, prove
$$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$$




Note:
Often Stack Exchange asked to show some work before answering the question. This inequality was used as a proposal problem for National TST of an Asian country a few years back. However, upon receiving the official solution, the committee decided to drop this problem immediately. They don't believe that any students can solve this problem in 3 hour time frame.



Update 1: In this forum, some bragged that BW is the only solution for this problem, which is completely wrong and stupid. This problem is listed as "coffin problems" in my country. The official solution is very elementary and elegant.



Update 2: Although there are some solutions (or partial solution) based on numerical method, I am more interested in the approach with "pencil and papers." I think the approach by Peter Scholze in here may help.



Update 3: Michael has tried to apply Peter Scholze's method but not found the solution yet.



Update 4: Symbolic expanding with computer is employed and verify the inequality. However, detail solution that not involved computer has not been found. Whoever can solve this inequality using high school math knowledge will be considered as the "King of Inequality".










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$x,y,z >0$, prove
$$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$$




Note:
Often Stack Exchange asked to show some work before answering the question. This inequality was used as a proposal problem for National TST of an Asian country a few years back. However, upon receiving the official solution, the committee decided to drop this problem immediately. They don't believe that any students can solve this problem in 3 hour time frame.



Update 1: In this forum, some bragged that BW is the only solution for this problem, which is completely wrong and stupid. This problem is listed as "coffin problems" in my country. The official solution is very elementary and elegant.



Update 2: Although there are some solutions (or partial solution) based on numerical method, I am more interested in the approach with "pencil and papers." I think the approach by Peter Scholze in here may help.



Update 3: Michael has tried to apply Peter Scholze's method but not found the solution yet.



Update 4: Symbolic expanding with computer is employed and verify the inequality. However, detail solution that not involved computer has not been found. Whoever can solve this inequality using high school math knowledge will be considered as the "King of Inequality".







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    I have no idea about the official solution. I try this problem for the past 3 years but not yet success. Even with brute force, I still cannot solve it. This shows level of insanity this problem has.
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    Past 3 years!! I would have forgot it within 3 hrs
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    If you can solve it, I guess you are qualified for IMO
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    A simple observation is that the inequality is homogeneous, so it suffices to prove the case $ x + y + z = 1 $. Wolfram helped me solve the mess of an equation system that arises out of Lagrange multipliers, so I am convinced that the inequality is true now. (I have no idea how to solve the system myself, so this doesn't really count as a solution.)
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    I believe that $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x^4}{ay^3+bz^3}geqfrac{x+y+z}{a+b}$, and why not $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x_n^4}{a_1x_1^3+ldots a_{n-1}x_{n-1}^3}geqfrac{x_1+ldots+x_{n-1}+x_n}{a_1+ldots+a_{n-1}+a_n}$ for $ngeq3$. Maybe the general case could be somehow helpful...
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    I have no idea about the official solution. I try this problem for the past 3 years but not yet success. Even with brute force, I still cannot solve it. This shows level of insanity this problem has.
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    – HN_NH
    May 7 '16 at 16:37






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    Past 3 years!! I would have forgot it within 3 hrs
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    If you can solve it, I guess you are qualified for IMO
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    A simple observation is that the inequality is homogeneous, so it suffices to prove the case $ x + y + z = 1 $. Wolfram helped me solve the mess of an equation system that arises out of Lagrange multipliers, so I am convinced that the inequality is true now. (I have no idea how to solve the system myself, so this doesn't really count as a solution.)
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    I believe that $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x^4}{ay^3+bz^3}geqfrac{x+y+z}{a+b}$, and why not $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x_n^4}{a_1x_1^3+ldots a_{n-1}x_{n-1}^3}geqfrac{x_1+ldots+x_{n-1}+x_n}{a_1+ldots+a_{n-1}+a_n}$ for $ngeq3$. Maybe the general case could be somehow helpful...
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I have no idea about the official solution. I try this problem for the past 3 years but not yet success. Even with brute force, I still cannot solve it. This shows level of insanity this problem has.
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I have no idea about the official solution. I try this problem for the past 3 years but not yet success. Even with brute force, I still cannot solve it. This shows level of insanity this problem has.
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Past 3 years!! I would have forgot it within 3 hrs
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Past 3 years!! I would have forgot it within 3 hrs
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If you can solve it, I guess you are qualified for IMO
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A simple observation is that the inequality is homogeneous, so it suffices to prove the case $ x + y + z = 1 $. Wolfram helped me solve the mess of an equation system that arises out of Lagrange multipliers, so I am convinced that the inequality is true now. (I have no idea how to solve the system myself, so this doesn't really count as a solution.)
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A simple observation is that the inequality is homogeneous, so it suffices to prove the case $ x + y + z = 1 $. Wolfram helped me solve the mess of an equation system that arises out of Lagrange multipliers, so I am convinced that the inequality is true now. (I have no idea how to solve the system myself, so this doesn't really count as a solution.)
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I believe that $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x^4}{ay^3+bz^3}geqfrac{x+y+z}{a+b}$, and why not $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x_n^4}{a_1x_1^3+ldots a_{n-1}x_{n-1}^3}geqfrac{x_1+ldots+x_{n-1}+x_n}{a_1+ldots+a_{n-1}+a_n}$ for $ngeq3$. Maybe the general case could be somehow helpful...
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I believe that $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x^4}{ay^3+bz^3}geqfrac{x+y+z}{a+b}$, and why not $sum_{mathrm{cyc}}frac{x_n^4}{a_1x_1^3+ldots a_{n-1}x_{n-1}^3}geqfrac{x_1+ldots+x_{n-1}+x_n}{a_1+ldots+a_{n-1}+a_n}$ for $ngeq3$. Maybe the general case could be somehow helpful...
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This is a question of the symmetric type, such as listed in:



  • Why does Group Theory not come in here?

With a constraint $;x+y+z=1;$ and $;x,y,z > 0$ . Sort of a general method to transform such a constraint into the inside of a triangle in 2-D has been explained at length in:




  • How prove this inequality $(a^2+bc^4)(b^2+ca^4)(c^2+ab^4) leq 64$

Our function $f$ in this case is:
$$
f(x,y,z) = frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} - frac{1}{13}
$$
And the minimum of that function inside the abovementioned triangle must shown to be greater or equal to zero. Due to symmetry - why oh why can it not be proved with Group Theory - an absolute minimum of the function is expected
at $(x,y,z) = (1/3,1/3,1/3)$. Another proof without words is attempted
by plotting a contour map of the function, as depicted. Levels (nivo) of these isolines are defined (in Delphi Pascal) as:



nivo := min + sqr(g/grens)*(max-min); { sqr = square ; grens = 20 ; g = 0..grens }

The whiteness of the isolines is proportional to the (positive) function values; they are almost black near the minimum and almost white near the maximum values.
Maximum and minimum values of the function are observed to be:



0.00000000000000E+0000 < f < 4.80709198767699E-0002

The little $color{blue}{mbox{blue}}$ spot in the middle is where $,0 le f(x,y,z) < 0.00002$ .




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    Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
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This inequality is very strong and I am sure that it's impossible to prove it during competition without calculator.



A big problem we get around $(x,y,z)=(0.822,1.265,1.855)$.



By the way, the Buffalo Way helps:



Let $x=min{x,y,z}$, $y=x+u$,$z=x+v$ and $x=tsqrt{uv}$.



Hence, $frac{13}{5}prodlimits_{cyc}(8x^3+5y^3)left(sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}-frac{x+y+z}{13}right)=$



$$=156(u^2-uv+v^2)x^8+6(65u^3+189u^2v-176uv^2+65v^3)x^7+$$
$$+2(377u^4+1206u^3v+585u^2v^2-1349uv^3+377v^4)x^6+$$
$$+3(247u^5+999u^4v+1168u^3v^2-472u^2v^3-726uv^4+247)x^5+$$
$$+3(117u^6+696u^5v+1479u^4v^2+182u^3v^3-686u^2v^4-163uv^5+117v^6)x^4+$$
$$+(65u^7+768u^6v+2808u^5v^2+2079u^4v^3-1286u^3v^4-585u^2v^5+181uv^6+65v^7)x^3+$$$$+3uv(40u^6+296u^5v+472u^4v^2-225u^2v^4+55uv^5+25v^6)x^2+ $$
$$+u^2v^2(120u^5+376u^4v+240u^3v^2-240u^2v^3-25uv^4+75v^5)x+$$
$$+5u^3v^3(8u^4+8u^3v-8uv^3+5v^4)geq$$
$$geq u^5v^5(156t^8+531t^7+2t^6-632t^5-152t^4+867t^3+834t^2+299t+40)geq0$$



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    @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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    I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
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    It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
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    there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
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    @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
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The Engel form of Cauchy-Schwarz is not the right way:



$$frac{(x^2)^2}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{(y^2)^2}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{8z^3+5x^3} geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



So we should prove that
$$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geqfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$



which is equivalent to
$$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geq x+y+z$$
but by Cauchy-Schwarz again we have $$x+y+z=frac{(x^2)^2}{x^3}
+frac{(y^2)^2}{y^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{z^3}
geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



and the inequalities are in the wrong way.






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    So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
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    I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
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    This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
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This is more an extended comment to the answer of @MichaelRozenberg than an answer by its own.
I used a short Maxima to confirm the equation derived by @MichaelRozenberg.
I used Maxima because it is open source.



Here is the Maxima script (statements are terminated by $ or by ;):





"I use string to comment this file"$

"the flag `display2d` controls
the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy
the maxima output to math.stackexchange"$

"to make it easier to input the problem data
we define to function g and f:"$

g(r,s):=(8*r^3+5*s^3);

f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s);

"
the initial problem has the form
L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)
but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and
we state the problem in the form
term0>=0
where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)
this is term0:
"$

term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)-(x+y+z)/13;

"
Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator
and get term1 that satisfies
term1>=0
`ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling
"$

term1:13/5*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0,ratsimp;

"
now we assume x=0 and v>=0
`,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions
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term2:term1,y=x+u,z=x+v;

"
ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x
"$

term3:ratsimp(term2,x);

for p:0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print (coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p);

"the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg";

lowerbound:u^5*v^5*(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40);

"we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial";

lb:lowerbound,expand;

"we want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w";

"We want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.
The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial
in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.
This value is called wdiff in the following.
We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform
to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.
`wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`
and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number
of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'
Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are
no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore
for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.
We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros
greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.
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for k:0 thru 8 do (
coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),
coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u=q^2,v=w^2),
poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),
nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
print("==="),
print("k=",k),
print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),
print("wdiff=",wdiff),
print("polynomial:",poly),
print("factors=",factor(poly)),
print("number of roots >0:",nr),
print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s=2))
);

"finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that
it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values";

poly:ratcoeff(lowerbound,u^5*v^5);

poly,t=1;

nroots(poly,0,inf);






I ran the scrip on the Xmaxima console and get the following output.
I use this console with this rather ugly kind of output because it
can be simply copied and pasted to math.stackecchange.
A prettier output can be found here at an online version of Maxima




(%i1) display2d:false;
(%o1) false
(%i2)
read and interpret file: #pD:/maxima/ineq1775572.mac
(%i3) "I use string to comment this file"
(%i4) "the flag `display2d` controls

the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy

the maxima output to math.stackexchange"
(%i5) "to make it easier to input the problem data

we define to function g and f:"
(%i6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
(%o6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
(%i7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
(%o7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
(%i8) "

the initial problem has the form

L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)

but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and

we state the problem in the form

term0>=0

where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)

this is term0:

"
(%i9) term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)+(-(x+y+z))/13
(%o9) z^4/(8*z^3+5*x^3)+y^4/(5*z^3+8*y^3)+((-z)-y-x)/13+x^4/(5*y^3+8*x^3)
(%i10) "

Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator

and get term1 that satisfies

term1>=0

`ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling

"
(%i11) ev(term1:(13*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0)/5,ratsimp)
(%o11) (25*y^3+40*x^3)*z^7+((-40*y^4)-40*x*y^3-64*x^3*y+40*x^4)*z^6
+(40*y^6+39*x^3*y^3-40*x^6)*z^4
+(40*y^7-64*x*y^6+39*x^3*y^4+39*x^4*y^3-40*x^6*y
+25*x^7)
*z^3+((-40*x^3*y^6)-64*x^6*y^3)*z+25*x^3*y^7
-40*x^4*y^6+40*x^6*y^4+40*x^7*y^3
(%i12) "

now we assume x=0 and v>=0

`,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions

"
(%i13) ev(term2:term1,y = x+u,z = x+v)
(%o13) (x+v)^3*(40*(x+u)^7-64*x*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^4+39*x^4*(x+u)^3+25*x^7
-40*x^6*(x+u))
+25*x^3*(x+u)^7+(x+v)*((-40*x^3*(x+u)^6)-64*x^6*(x+u)^3)
+(x+v)^4*(40*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^3-40*x^6)-40*x^4*(x+u)^6+40*x^6*(x+u)^4
+(x+v)^6*((-40*(x+u)^4)-40*x*(x+u)^3+40*x^4-64*x^3*(x+u))
+(x+v)^7*(25*(x+u)^3+40*x^3)+40*x^7*(x+u)^3
(%i14) "

ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x

"
(%i15) term3:ratsimp(term2,x)
(%o15) (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8+(390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)
*x^7
+(754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2
+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)
*x^6
+(741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3
+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)
*x^5
+(351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4
+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
*x^4
+(65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5
-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7)
*x^3
+(75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5
+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
+120*u^7*v)
*x^2
+(75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5
+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
+120*u^7*v^2)
*x+25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4
+40*u^7*v^3
(%i16) for p from 0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print(coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p)
25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
(75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3+120*u^7*v^2)*x
(75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2+120*u^7*v)*x^2
(65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v
+65*u^7)
*x^3

(351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
*x^4

(741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)*x^5
(754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)*x^6
(390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)*x^7
(156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8
(%o16) done
(%i17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
(%o17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
(%i18) lowerbound:u^5*v^5
*(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2
+299*t+40)
(%o18) (156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40)*u^5*v
^5
(%i19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
(%o19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
(%i20) ev(lb:lowerbound,expand)
(%o20) 156*t^8*u^5*v^5+531*t^7*u^5*v^5+2*t^6*u^5*v^5-632*t^5*u^5*v^5
-152*t^4*u^5*v^5+867*t^3*u^5*v^5+834*t^2*u^5*v^5
+299*t*u^5*v^5+40*u^5*v^5
(%i21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
(%o21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
(%i22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

This value is called wdiff in the following.

We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

`wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

"
(%o22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

This value is called wdiff in the following.

We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

`wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

"
(%i23) for k from 0 thru 8 do
(coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u = q^2,v = w^2),
poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
print("==="),print("k=",k),print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),print("wdiff=",wdiff),
print("polynomial:",poly),print("factors=",factor(poly)),
print("number of roots >0:",nr),print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s = 2)))
===
k= 0
coeff(term3, x, 0 )= 25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
coeff(lb, t, 0 )= 40*u^5*v^5
wdiff= 25*q^6*w^14-40*q^8*w^12-40*q^10*w^10+40*q^12*w^8+40*q^14*w^6
polynomial: 40*s^14+40*s^12-40*s^10-40*s^8+25*s^6
factors= 5*s^6*(8*s^8+8*s^6-8*s^4-8*s^2+5)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 769600
===
k= 1
coeff(term3, x, 1 )=
75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
+120*u^7*v^2
coeff(lb, t, 1 )= 299*u^5*v^5
wdiff=
q*w
*(75*q^4*w^14-25*q^6*w^12-240*q^8*w^10+240*q^10*w^8+376*q^12*w^6
+120*q^14*w^4)
-299*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 120*s^15+376*s^13+240*s^11-299*s^10-240*s^9-25*s^7+75*s^5
factors= s^5*(120*s^10+376*s^8+240*s^6-299*s^5-240*s^4-25*s^2+75)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 7074016
===
k= 2
coeff(term3, x, 2 )=
75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
+120*u^7*v
coeff(lb, t, 2 )= 834*u^5*v^5
wdiff=
q^2*w^2
*(75*q^2*w^14+165*q^4*w^12-675*q^6*w^10+1416*q^10*w^6+888*q^12*w^4
+120*q^14*w^2)
-834*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 120*s^16+888*s^14+1416*s^12-834*s^10-675*s^8+165*s^6+75*s^4
factors= 3*s^4*(40*s^12+296*s^10+472*s^8-278*s^6-225*s^4+55*s^2+25)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 27198192
===
k= 3
coeff(term3, x, 3 )=
65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7
coeff(lb, t, 3 )= 867*u^5*v^5
wdiff=
q^3*w^3
*(65*w^14+181*q^2*w^12-585*q^4*w^10-1286*q^6*w^8+2079*q^8*w^6
+2808*q^10*w^4+768*q^12*w^2+65*q^14)
-867*q^10*w^10
polynomial:
65*s^17+768*s^15+2808*s^13+2079*s^11-867*s^10-1286*s^9-585*s^7
+181*s^5+65*s^3
factors=
s^3*(65*s^14+768*s^12+2808*s^10+2079*s^8-867*s^7-1286*s^6-585*s^4
+181*s^2+65)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 59331624
===
k= 4
coeff(term3, x, 4 )=
351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6
coeff(lb, t, 4 )= -152*u^5*v^5
wdiff=
q^4*w^4
*(351*w^12-489*q^2*w^10-2058*q^4*w^8+546*q^6*w^6+4437*q^8*w^4
+2088*q^10*w^2+351*q^12)
+152*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 351*s^16+2088*s^14+4437*s^12+698*s^10-2058*s^8-489*s^6+351*s^4
factors= s^4*(351*s^12+2088*s^10+4437*s^8+698*s^6-2058*s^4-489*s^2+351)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 75549104
===
k= 5
coeff(term3, x, 5 )=
741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5

coeff(lb, t, 5 )= -632*u^5*v^5
wdiff=
q^5*w^5
*(741*w^10-2178*q^2*w^8-1476*q^4*w^6+3504*q^6*w^4+2997*q^8*w^2
+741*q^10)
+632*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 741*s^15+2997*s^13+3504*s^11+632*s^10-1476*s^9-2178*s^7+741*s^5
factors= s^5*(741*s^10+2997*s^8+3504*s^6+632*s^5-1476*s^4-2178*s^2+741)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 55645088
===
k= 6
coeff(term3, x, 6 )= 754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4
coeff(lb, t, 6 )= 2*u^5*v^5
wdiff=
q^6*w^6*(754*w^8-2698*q^2*w^6+1170*q^4*w^4+2412*q^6*w^2+754*q^8)
-2*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 754*s^14+2412*s^12+1168*s^10-2698*s^8+754*s^6
factors= 2*s^6*(377*s^8+1206*s^6+584*s^4-1349*s^2+377)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 22786688
===
k= 7
coeff(term3, x, 7 )= 390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3
coeff(lb, t, 7 )= 531*u^5*v^5
wdiff= q^7*w^7*(390*w^6-1056*q^2*w^4+1134*q^4*w^2+390*q^6)-531*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7
factors= 3*s^7*(130*s^6+378*s^4-177*s^3-352*s^2+130)
number of roots >0: 0
poly(2)= 4482816
===
k= 8
coeff(term3, x, 8 )= 156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2
coeff(lb, t, 8 )= 156*u^5*v^5
wdiff= q^8*w^8*(156*w^4-156*q^2*w^2+156*q^4)-156*q^10*w^10
polynomial: 156*s^12-312*s^10+156*s^8
factors= 156*(s-1)^2*s^8*(s+1)^2
number of roots >0: 2
poly(2)= 359424
(%o23) done
(%i24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
(%o24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
(%i25) poly:ratcoef(lowerbound,u^5*v^5)
(%o25) 156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40
(%i26) ev(poly,t = 1)
(%o26) 1945
(%i27) nroots(poly,0,inf)
(%o27) 0
(%i28)


Here we list the coefficient functions so we can compare them to @MichaelRozenbergs function to see they are the same.



$$begin{array}{r} tag{1}
left(25,u^3,v^7-40,u^4,v^6+40,u^6,v^4+40,u^7,v^3right),x^0 \
left(75,u^2,v^7-25,u^3,v^6-240,u^4,v^5+240,u^5,v^4+376,u^
6,v^3+120,u^7,v^2right),x^1 \
left(75,u,v^7+165,u^2,v^6-675,u^3,v^5+1416,u^5,v^3+888,u^
6,v^2+120,u^7,vright),x^2 \
left(65,v^7+181,u,v^6-585,u^2,v^5-1286,u^3,v^4+2079,u^4,v
^3+2808,u^5,v^2+768,u^6,v+65,u^7right),x^3 \
left(351,v^6-489,u,v^5-2058,u^2,v^4+546,u^3,v^3+4437,u^4,
v^2+2088,u^5,v+351,u^6right),x^4 \
left(741,v^5-2178,u,v^4-1476,u^2,v^3+3504,u^3,v^2+2997,u^4
,v+741,u^5right),x^5 \
left(754,v^4-2698,u,v^3+1170,u^2,v^2+2412,u^3,v+754,u^4
right),x^6 \
left(390,v^3-1056,u,v^2+1134,u^2,v+390,u^3right),x^7 \
left(156,v^2-156,u,v+156,u^2right),x^8
end{array}$$



To proof that this function is larger than
$$left(156,t^8+531,t^7+2,t^6-632,t^5-152,t^4+867,t^3+834,t^2+
299,t+40right),u^5,v^5 tag{2}$$
Rozenbergs's lower bound when we substitute $x$ by $tsqrt(uv)$ we show that each coefficient of the polynomial $(1)$ is larger than the corresponding coefficient of the lower bound polynomial $(2)$.
Then we show that the polynomial $(2)$ is larger than $0$ for all nonnegative $u$, $v$ and $t$. Details can be found in the Maxima script.



Instead of the Maxima nroots function, which is based on Sturm sequences, one could solve the equations by some numeric functions to see if there are zeros greater than zeros, e.g. calculating the roots of poly for k=7 gives the following:




(%i29) allroots(390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7 ,s);
(%o29) [s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,
s = 0.007444635413686057*%i+0.7516683014652126,
s = 0.7516683014652126-0.007444635413686057*%i,
s = 0.3202741285237583*%i-0.6047586795035632,
s = (-0.3202741285237583*%i)-0.6047586795035632,
s = 1.93839678615644*%i-0.1469096219616494,
s = (-1.93839678615644*%i)-0.1469096219616494]


So we can also conclude are no real roots greater than 0. But this method is not really acceptable if one does not analyze the impact of the rounding errors. And this can be very complicated. The nroots function works with integers (for integer polynomials) and so there are no rounding errors.






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    (I consider it pertinent to add this answer to this challenging problem because the answer given here is different and simpler than the others given).



    Lemma.-For every pair of positive $x,y$ it is verified that
    $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}$$
    Proof.- It is an easy algebraic operation leading to $$(x^3-y^3)(x^2-y^2)ge0$$
    $$*******$$
    Now, let $x,y,z$ be three arbitrary positive numbers. We have
    $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}\frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+z}{13}\frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}gefrac{y+z}{13}$$ It follows that the sum
    $$left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}right)+left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}right)$$ is greater or equal than
    $$frac{2(x+y+z)}{13}$$
    These two expressions in parentheses can not be both smaller than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ because their sum is greater than or equal to the double of this quantity. Thus one of them, say the first, satisfies
    $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y+z}{13}$$
    Now the function $f:mathbb R^3_+rightarrow mathbb R_+$ defined by $f(x,y,z)=LHS$ is clearly continuous (it is even differentiable).



    Choosing $(x,y,z)$ such that $0lt||(x,y,z)-(x,z,y)||to 0$ in $mathbb R^3_+$ we have that $|f(x,y,z)-f(x,z,y)|to 0$ in $mathbb R_+$. This ensures that if $f(x,y,z)gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ then this is so for $f(x,z,y)$ when $(x,z,y)$ is near enough of $(x,y,z)$. This ends the proof because from this we can deduce that one of the two expressions in parentheses above cannot be less to $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ if the other is greater or equal than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ (which has been proved above).






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      By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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    I write a start for a full answer (this is an idea that @Starfall first proposed in comment). If someone wants to use it to end the proof, she/he is welcome!



    Let
    $$f(x,y,z):=frac{x^4}{ax^3+by^3}+frac{y^4}{ay^3+bz^3}+frac{z^4}{az^3+bx^3}.$$
    Since $f$ is homogeneous of degree 1, it is sufficient to consider $x,y,z$ on the plane $P:={x+y+z=1}$. Let
    $$g(x,y,z):=x+y+z-1$$
    be the constraint function. We compute :
    $$mathrm{d}f(x,y,z)=left(frac{ax^6+4bx^3y^3}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}-frac{3bx^2z^4}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}x+left(frac{ay^6+4by^3z^3}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}-frac{3bx^4y^2}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}y$$
    $$+left(frac{az^6+4bx^3z^3}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}-frac{3by^4z^2}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}z,$$
    $$mathrm{d}g(x,y,z)=mathrm{d}x+mathrm{d}y+mathrm{d}z.$$
    Define the $2times 3$ matrix
    $$M:=begin{pmatrix}
    frac{partial f}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial z}(x,y,z)\
    frac{partial g}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial z}(x,y,z)
    end{pmatrix}.$$
    By Lagrange multipliers theorem, all the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ must vanish at a local minimum $(x,y,z)$ of $f$ on $P$.



    Setting
    $$A:=ax^3+by^3,quad B:=az^3+bx^3,quad ay^3+bz^3,$$
    cancelling the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ yields :
    begin{align}
    begin{cases}
    B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3+3bx^4y^2)-3A^2C^2bx^2z^4-A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3)&=0\
    B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3)-A^2C^2(3bx^2z^4+az^6+4bx^3z^3)+3A^2B^2by^4z^2&=0\
    A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3+3by^4z^2)-3B^2C^2bx^4y^2-A^2C^2(az^6+4bx^3z^3)&=0\
    x+y+z=1, x,y,z>0
    end{cases}.
    end{align}
    Labelling the lines $(1)$, $(2)$, $(3)$ and $(4)$, we can see that $(1)-(2)=-(3)$, so that we can forget one of the three first lines.



    Here we need to do some (boring) algebra, using the constraints of the fourth line above and maybe some tricks like writing $ax^3=A-by^3$ and $bx^4=(1-y-z)(B-az^3)$. But I am too busy now to try this, and I don't know if I would try later...






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      Thank you very much for using Lagrange Multiplier ! One up vote from me :)
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    At the beginning we transform the original inequality:
    $$dfrac{8x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{8y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{8z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
    $$x-dfrac{5xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+y-dfrac{5yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+z-dfrac{5zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
    $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}leq dfrac1{13}(x+y+z).qquad(1)$$
    Inequality $(1)$ is homogenius, and its decisions are determined up to an arbitrary common factor. We shall consider as the basic solution with
    $$x+y+z=1.$$
    It is easy to see that among the unknowns $x, y, z$ in $(1)$ only one can have zero limit.
    Let $zto 0,$ then inequality transforms to
    $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}leqdfrac1{13},quad x+y=1,$$
    $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y)geq 0.$$
    Note that
    $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y) = 13y^4-16y^3+24 y^2-24y+8 \= 4y(1-y)^3 + 17y^4-28 y^3+36y^2-28y+8 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4 + 10y^4-6y^2+1 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4+(3y^2-1)^2+y^4 geq 0,$$
    so the inequality is proved for this case .



    For the case of
    $$xnot=0,quad ynot=0,quad znot=0$$
    we can use new method - of limiting transition.



    I am not sure in its correctness, but discussion can be useful.



    Let
    $$f(t)=dfrac{t^3}{8+5t^3},$$
    $$a = xfleft(dfrac{y}xright) + yfleft(dfrac{z}yright) + zfleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
    and find maximal possible value for $a.$



    Using Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, we have
    $$left(sqrt{x}cdotsqrt{x}fleft(dfrac{y}xright)+sqrt{y}cdotsqrt{y}fleft(dfrac{z}yright)+sqrt{z}cdotsqrt{z}fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right)^2 leq (x+y+z)left(xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright)right),$$
    or
    $$a^2 leq xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright),$$
    and similarly
    $$a^4 leq xf^4left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^4left(dfrac{z}yright) + zf^4left(dfrac{x}zright),dots$$
    $$a^{2^n} leq xf^{2^n}left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^{2^n}left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^{2^n}left(dfrac{x}zright)qquad(2)$$
    for any $ninmathbb N.$



    Let
    $f_m = maxleft{fleft(dfrac{y}xright), fleft(dfrac{z}yright), fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right},$
    then $(2)$ is equivalent to
    $$left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} leq xleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{y}xright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + yleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{z}yright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + zleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{x}zright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n}.qquad(3)$$



    Inequality $(3)$ can be equality only if
    $$lim_{ntoinfty}left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} = lim_{ntoinfty}RHS.$$
    If
    $$fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),quad fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),quad fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)$$
    and for definiteness
    $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
    then for $a,x,y,z>0$ the system of conditions becomes inconsistent:
    $$a=f_m,quad x=1,quad z=0.$$
    If
    $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
    or
    $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
    or
    $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),$$
    one of the unknowns becomes zero, which reduces the problem to the case of the edges of area.



    So remains the case of
    $$f_m = fleft(dfrac{y}xright) = fleft(dfrac{z}yright) = fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
    $$dfrac{y^3}{8x^3+5y^3}=dfrac{z^3}{8y^3+5z^3}=dfrac{x^3}{8z^3+5x^3},$$
    or
    $$5+8frac{x^3}{y^3} = 5+8frac{y^3}{z^3} = 5+8frac{z^3}{x^3},$$
    $$dfrac xy = dfrac yz = dfrac zx, quad dfrac{y}xcdotdfrac{z}ycdotdfrac{x}z = 1, $$
    $$x=y=z,$$
    $$aleq f(1) = dfrac1{13},$$



    $$boxed{dfrac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac{x+y+z}{13}}.$$






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    Let's reform this inequality in a way such that we can comprehend it better. Define $a=dfrac{y}{x}$ and $b=dfrac{z}{y}$, therefore $dfrac{x}{z}={1over ab}$. We can suume without lose of generality that $a,ble1$ We need to prove that $$dfrac{x}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{y}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{z}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$by dividing the two sides of the inequality by $x$ and substituting $a,b,c$ we have that$$dfrac{1}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{y}{x}}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{z}{y}}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{1+dfrac{y}{x}+dfrac{z}{x}}{13}$$and $$dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}ge dfrac{1}{13}+dfrac{a}{13}+dfrac{ab}{13}$$which is equivalent to $$left(dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}-dfrac{1}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}-dfrac{a}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}-dfrac{ab}{13}right)ge 0$$by simplifying each of the components and multiplying both sides in $dfrac{13}{5}$ we obtain$$dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}ge0$$below is a depiction of $f(a,b)=dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}$ for $0le a,ble 1$



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    which proves the inequality graphically (I believe that Lagrange multipliers or any other method based on 1st order derivations may help but i hadn't much time to think on it hope you find an analytic way) but neither such a time i spent on the problem nor a computer is given us in the exam :) also i appreciate if any one updates his/her comment with such an analytical method. I'm really curious about that.....






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      Not sure, if I missed out anything here. Take a look.



      For non negative, $X,Y,Z$,
      We can perhaps use Titu's inequality (a mix of Holder and CS), sometimes called Titu's screw lemma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesbitt%27s_inequality).
      begin{equation}
      sum_{k=1}^{n}{frac{x_{k}^{2}}{a_{k}}} ge frac{left(sum_{k=1}^{n}{x_{k}}right)^{2}}{sum_{k=1}^{n}{a_{k}}}
      end{equation}



      With $nto3$ terms, $x_{1}to X^{2},x_{2} to Y^{2}, x_{3} to Z^{2}$ and $a_{1} to A, a_{2}to B, a_{3} to C$, we will have



      begin{eqnarray*}
      frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C} &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
      end{eqnarray*}



      With
      begin{eqnarray*}
      A &=& alpha X^{3} +beta Y^{3} \
      B &=& alpha Y^{3} +beta Z^{3} \
      C &=& alpha Z^{3} +beta X^{3}
      end{eqnarray*}



      where,
      begin{eqnarray*}
      A+B+C &=& (alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)
      end{eqnarray*}



      begin{eqnarray}
      frac{X^4}{A}+frac{Y^4}{B}+frac{Z^4}{C} &=&frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C}\
      &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
      &=& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
      &overset{(p)}{ge}& frac{left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3}right)left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
      &=& frac{left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta)}
      end{eqnarray}



      QED.



      Here $(p)$ is from the fact that,



      begin{eqnarray*}
      (X^2+Y^2+Z^2)^{2} -left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3} right) (X+Y+Z) &=& XY(X-Y)^{2}+YZ(Y-Z)^{2}+ZX(Z-X)^{2} \
      &ge& 0
      end{eqnarray*}



      Here $alpha=8$ and $beta=5$.






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        Looks neat to my eyes!
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        By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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        Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
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        I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
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        Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
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      This is too long to fit into a comment. I wanted to ask a question about my proof on this problem. (It might help discover another proof)





      This proof has a flaw -- From $AB ge C$ and $A ge D$, I wrongly implied that $DB ge C$.



      Is there a way to slightly modify it such that it can prove the statement or is it completely wrong?





      Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation
      $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume
      without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.



      From Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality,



      $$([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3})geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$$



      Since (By AM-GM) $$[8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3] = 13(x^3+y^3+z^3) geqslant 13(3 sqrt[3]{(xyz)^3}) = 13(3)$$



      Therefore



      $([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (13)(3)(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$



      Therefore



      $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$$



      Now it reamins to prove that $frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$, i.e.



      $$(x^2+y^2+z^2)(x^2+y^2+z^2)geqslant 3(x+y+z)$$



      which is straightforward by AM-GM:



      Notice that for all $xyz=1$



      $$(x - 1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z - 1)^2 ge 0$$
      $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - 2a - 2b - 2c + 3 ge 0$$
      $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + (x + y + z) + (x + y + z)$$



      But by AM-GM, $x + y + z ge 3sqrt[3]{xyz} = 3$. So,
      $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + 3 + (x + y + z)$$
      $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge x + y + z ge 3$$






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        Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
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        quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
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        If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
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      I have finally found a solution . In fact we start to study the 2 variables version of this inequality we have :




      $$frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+frac{b^4}{8b^3+5a^3}geq frac{a+b}{13}$$




      Proof:



      We have with $x=frac{a}{b}$ :
      $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5}+frac{1}{8+5x^3}geq frac{1+x}{13}$$
      Or
      $$frac{5}{13}(x - 1)^2 (x + 1) (x^2 + x + 1) (5 x^2 - 8 x + 5)geq 0$$



      So we have (if we permute the variables $a,b,c$ and add the three inequalities ) :



      $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{6.5}$$



      If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



      We have :
      $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
      But also
      $$frac{(a-epsilon)^4}{8(a-epsilon)^3+5b^3}+frac{(b)^4}{8(b)^3+5(c+epsilon)^3}+frac{(c+epsilon)^4}{8(c+epsilon)^3+5(a-epsilon)^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
      If we put $ageq c $ and $epsilon=a-c$



      We finally obtain :
      $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$



      If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}leqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



      The proof is the same as above .



      So all the cases are present so it's proved !






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        This is a question of the symmetric type, such as listed in:



        • Why does Group Theory not come in here?

        With a constraint $;x+y+z=1;$ and $;x,y,z > 0$ . Sort of a general method to transform such a constraint into the inside of a triangle in 2-D has been explained at length in:




        • How prove this inequality $(a^2+bc^4)(b^2+ca^4)(c^2+ab^4) leq 64$

        Our function $f$ in this case is:
        $$
        f(x,y,z) = frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} - frac{1}{13}
        $$
        And the minimum of that function inside the abovementioned triangle must shown to be greater or equal to zero. Due to symmetry - why oh why can it not be proved with Group Theory - an absolute minimum of the function is expected
        at $(x,y,z) = (1/3,1/3,1/3)$. Another proof without words is attempted
        by plotting a contour map of the function, as depicted. Levels (nivo) of these isolines are defined (in Delphi Pascal) as:



        nivo := min + sqr(g/grens)*(max-min); { sqr = square ; grens = 20 ; g = 0..grens }

        The whiteness of the isolines is proportional to the (positive) function values; they are almost black near the minimum and almost white near the maximum values.
        Maximum and minimum values of the function are observed to be:



        0.00000000000000E+0000 < f < 4.80709198767699E-0002

        The little $color{blue}{mbox{blue}}$ spot in the middle is where $,0 le f(x,y,z) < 0.00002$ .




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          Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
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          – HN_NH
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        $begingroup$

        enter image description here



        This is a question of the symmetric type, such as listed in:



        • Why does Group Theory not come in here?

        With a constraint $;x+y+z=1;$ and $;x,y,z > 0$ . Sort of a general method to transform such a constraint into the inside of a triangle in 2-D has been explained at length in:




        • How prove this inequality $(a^2+bc^4)(b^2+ca^4)(c^2+ab^4) leq 64$

        Our function $f$ in this case is:
        $$
        f(x,y,z) = frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} - frac{1}{13}
        $$
        And the minimum of that function inside the abovementioned triangle must shown to be greater or equal to zero. Due to symmetry - why oh why can it not be proved with Group Theory - an absolute minimum of the function is expected
        at $(x,y,z) = (1/3,1/3,1/3)$. Another proof without words is attempted
        by plotting a contour map of the function, as depicted. Levels (nivo) of these isolines are defined (in Delphi Pascal) as:



        nivo := min + sqr(g/grens)*(max-min); { sqr = square ; grens = 20 ; g = 0..grens }

        The whiteness of the isolines is proportional to the (positive) function values; they are almost black near the minimum and almost white near the maximum values.
        Maximum and minimum values of the function are observed to be:



        0.00000000000000E+0000 < f < 4.80709198767699E-0002

        The little $color{blue}{mbox{blue}}$ spot in the middle is where $,0 le f(x,y,z) < 0.00002$ .




        share|cite|improve this answer











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          Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
          $endgroup$
          – HN_NH
          May 24 '16 at 6:05














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        15





        $begingroup$

        enter image description here



        This is a question of the symmetric type, such as listed in:



        • Why does Group Theory not come in here?

        With a constraint $;x+y+z=1;$ and $;x,y,z > 0$ . Sort of a general method to transform such a constraint into the inside of a triangle in 2-D has been explained at length in:




        • How prove this inequality $(a^2+bc^4)(b^2+ca^4)(c^2+ab^4) leq 64$

        Our function $f$ in this case is:
        $$
        f(x,y,z) = frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} - frac{1}{13}
        $$
        And the minimum of that function inside the abovementioned triangle must shown to be greater or equal to zero. Due to symmetry - why oh why can it not be proved with Group Theory - an absolute minimum of the function is expected
        at $(x,y,z) = (1/3,1/3,1/3)$. Another proof without words is attempted
        by plotting a contour map of the function, as depicted. Levels (nivo) of these isolines are defined (in Delphi Pascal) as:



        nivo := min + sqr(g/grens)*(max-min); { sqr = square ; grens = 20 ; g = 0..grens }

        The whiteness of the isolines is proportional to the (positive) function values; they are almost black near the minimum and almost white near the maximum values.
        Maximum and minimum values of the function are observed to be:



        0.00000000000000E+0000 < f < 4.80709198767699E-0002

        The little $color{blue}{mbox{blue}}$ spot in the middle is where $,0 le f(x,y,z) < 0.00002$ .




        share|cite|improve this answer











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        enter image description here



        This is a question of the symmetric type, such as listed in:



        • Why does Group Theory not come in here?

        With a constraint $;x+y+z=1;$ and $;x,y,z > 0$ . Sort of a general method to transform such a constraint into the inside of a triangle in 2-D has been explained at length in:




        • How prove this inequality $(a^2+bc^4)(b^2+ca^4)(c^2+ab^4) leq 64$

        Our function $f$ in this case is:
        $$
        f(x,y,z) = frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} - frac{1}{13}
        $$
        And the minimum of that function inside the abovementioned triangle must shown to be greater or equal to zero. Due to symmetry - why oh why can it not be proved with Group Theory - an absolute minimum of the function is expected
        at $(x,y,z) = (1/3,1/3,1/3)$. Another proof without words is attempted
        by plotting a contour map of the function, as depicted. Levels (nivo) of these isolines are defined (in Delphi Pascal) as:



        nivo := min + sqr(g/grens)*(max-min); { sqr = square ; grens = 20 ; g = 0..grens }

        The whiteness of the isolines is proportional to the (positive) function values; they are almost black near the minimum and almost white near the maximum values.
        Maximum and minimum values of the function are observed to be:



        0.00000000000000E+0000 < f < 4.80709198767699E-0002

        The little $color{blue}{mbox{blue}}$ spot in the middle is where $,0 le f(x,y,z) < 0.00002$ .





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        answered May 16 '16 at 11:21









        Han de BruijnHan de Bruijn

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          Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
          $endgroup$
          – HN_NH
          May 24 '16 at 6:05














        • 1




          $begingroup$
          Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
          $endgroup$
          – HN_NH
          May 24 '16 at 6:05








        1




        1




        $begingroup$
        Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
        $endgroup$
        – HN_NH
        May 24 '16 at 6:05




        $begingroup$
        Interesting technique. Thank you very much for trying my inequality. One up vote !!!
        $endgroup$
        – HN_NH
        May 24 '16 at 6:05











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        This inequality is very strong and I am sure that it's impossible to prove it during competition without calculator.



        A big problem we get around $(x,y,z)=(0.822,1.265,1.855)$.



        By the way, the Buffalo Way helps:



        Let $x=min{x,y,z}$, $y=x+u$,$z=x+v$ and $x=tsqrt{uv}$.



        Hence, $frac{13}{5}prodlimits_{cyc}(8x^3+5y^3)left(sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}-frac{x+y+z}{13}right)=$



        $$=156(u^2-uv+v^2)x^8+6(65u^3+189u^2v-176uv^2+65v^3)x^7+$$
        $$+2(377u^4+1206u^3v+585u^2v^2-1349uv^3+377v^4)x^6+$$
        $$+3(247u^5+999u^4v+1168u^3v^2-472u^2v^3-726uv^4+247)x^5+$$
        $$+3(117u^6+696u^5v+1479u^4v^2+182u^3v^3-686u^2v^4-163uv^5+117v^6)x^4+$$
        $$+(65u^7+768u^6v+2808u^5v^2+2079u^4v^3-1286u^3v^4-585u^2v^5+181uv^6+65v^7)x^3+$$$$+3uv(40u^6+296u^5v+472u^4v^2-225u^2v^4+55uv^5+25v^6)x^2+ $$
        $$+u^2v^2(120u^5+376u^4v+240u^3v^2-240u^2v^3-25uv^4+75v^5)x+$$
        $$+5u^3v^3(8u^4+8u^3v-8uv^3+5v^4)geq$$
        $$geq u^5v^5(156t^8+531t^7+2t^6-632t^5-152t^4+867t^3+834t^2+299t+40)geq0$$



        Done!






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          @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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          – Michael Rozenberg
          Jun 21 '16 at 20:24










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          I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
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          – Leucippus
          Jun 22 '16 at 1:24






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          It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
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          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 12:16










        • $begingroup$
          there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
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          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:06










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          @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
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          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:22
















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        This inequality is very strong and I am sure that it's impossible to prove it during competition without calculator.



        A big problem we get around $(x,y,z)=(0.822,1.265,1.855)$.



        By the way, the Buffalo Way helps:



        Let $x=min{x,y,z}$, $y=x+u$,$z=x+v$ and $x=tsqrt{uv}$.



        Hence, $frac{13}{5}prodlimits_{cyc}(8x^3+5y^3)left(sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}-frac{x+y+z}{13}right)=$



        $$=156(u^2-uv+v^2)x^8+6(65u^3+189u^2v-176uv^2+65v^3)x^7+$$
        $$+2(377u^4+1206u^3v+585u^2v^2-1349uv^3+377v^4)x^6+$$
        $$+3(247u^5+999u^4v+1168u^3v^2-472u^2v^3-726uv^4+247)x^5+$$
        $$+3(117u^6+696u^5v+1479u^4v^2+182u^3v^3-686u^2v^4-163uv^5+117v^6)x^4+$$
        $$+(65u^7+768u^6v+2808u^5v^2+2079u^4v^3-1286u^3v^4-585u^2v^5+181uv^6+65v^7)x^3+$$$$+3uv(40u^6+296u^5v+472u^4v^2-225u^2v^4+55uv^5+25v^6)x^2+ $$
        $$+u^2v^2(120u^5+376u^4v+240u^3v^2-240u^2v^3-25uv^4+75v^5)x+$$
        $$+5u^3v^3(8u^4+8u^3v-8uv^3+5v^4)geq$$
        $$geq u^5v^5(156t^8+531t^7+2t^6-632t^5-152t^4+867t^3+834t^2+299t+40)geq0$$



        Done!






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          @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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          I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
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          – Leucippus
          Jun 22 '16 at 1:24






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          $begingroup$
          It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
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          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 12:16










        • $begingroup$
          there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
          $endgroup$
          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:06










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          @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
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          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:22














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        14








        14





        $begingroup$

        This inequality is very strong and I am sure that it's impossible to prove it during competition without calculator.



        A big problem we get around $(x,y,z)=(0.822,1.265,1.855)$.



        By the way, the Buffalo Way helps:



        Let $x=min{x,y,z}$, $y=x+u$,$z=x+v$ and $x=tsqrt{uv}$.



        Hence, $frac{13}{5}prodlimits_{cyc}(8x^3+5y^3)left(sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}-frac{x+y+z}{13}right)=$



        $$=156(u^2-uv+v^2)x^8+6(65u^3+189u^2v-176uv^2+65v^3)x^7+$$
        $$+2(377u^4+1206u^3v+585u^2v^2-1349uv^3+377v^4)x^6+$$
        $$+3(247u^5+999u^4v+1168u^3v^2-472u^2v^3-726uv^4+247)x^5+$$
        $$+3(117u^6+696u^5v+1479u^4v^2+182u^3v^3-686u^2v^4-163uv^5+117v^6)x^4+$$
        $$+(65u^7+768u^6v+2808u^5v^2+2079u^4v^3-1286u^3v^4-585u^2v^5+181uv^6+65v^7)x^3+$$$$+3uv(40u^6+296u^5v+472u^4v^2-225u^2v^4+55uv^5+25v^6)x^2+ $$
        $$+u^2v^2(120u^5+376u^4v+240u^3v^2-240u^2v^3-25uv^4+75v^5)x+$$
        $$+5u^3v^3(8u^4+8u^3v-8uv^3+5v^4)geq$$
        $$geq u^5v^5(156t^8+531t^7+2t^6-632t^5-152t^4+867t^3+834t^2+299t+40)geq0$$



        Done!






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        This inequality is very strong and I am sure that it's impossible to prove it during competition without calculator.



        A big problem we get around $(x,y,z)=(0.822,1.265,1.855)$.



        By the way, the Buffalo Way helps:



        Let $x=min{x,y,z}$, $y=x+u$,$z=x+v$ and $x=tsqrt{uv}$.



        Hence, $frac{13}{5}prodlimits_{cyc}(8x^3+5y^3)left(sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}-frac{x+y+z}{13}right)=$



        $$=156(u^2-uv+v^2)x^8+6(65u^3+189u^2v-176uv^2+65v^3)x^7+$$
        $$+2(377u^4+1206u^3v+585u^2v^2-1349uv^3+377v^4)x^6+$$
        $$+3(247u^5+999u^4v+1168u^3v^2-472u^2v^3-726uv^4+247)x^5+$$
        $$+3(117u^6+696u^5v+1479u^4v^2+182u^3v^3-686u^2v^4-163uv^5+117v^6)x^4+$$
        $$+(65u^7+768u^6v+2808u^5v^2+2079u^4v^3-1286u^3v^4-585u^2v^5+181uv^6+65v^7)x^3+$$$$+3uv(40u^6+296u^5v+472u^4v^2-225u^2v^4+55uv^5+25v^6)x^2+ $$
        $$+u^2v^2(120u^5+376u^4v+240u^3v^2-240u^2v^3-25uv^4+75v^5)x+$$
        $$+5u^3v^3(8u^4+8u^3v-8uv^3+5v^4)geq$$
        $$geq u^5v^5(156t^8+531t^7+2t^6-632t^5-152t^4+867t^3+834t^2+299t+40)geq0$$



        Done!







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        answered May 7 '16 at 21:45









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          @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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          I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
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          – Leucippus
          Jun 22 '16 at 1:24






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          $begingroup$
          It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
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          – miracle173
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        • $begingroup$
          there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
          $endgroup$
          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:06










        • $begingroup$
          @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
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          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:22














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          @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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          – Michael Rozenberg
          Jun 21 '16 at 20:24










        • $begingroup$
          I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
          $endgroup$
          – Leucippus
          Jun 22 '16 at 1:24






        • 1




          $begingroup$
          It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
          $endgroup$
          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 12:16










        • $begingroup$
          there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
          $endgroup$
          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:06










        • $begingroup$
          @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
          $endgroup$
          – miracle173
          Jul 3 '16 at 13:22








        1




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        @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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        – Michael Rozenberg
        Jun 21 '16 at 20:24




        $begingroup$
        @Leucippus I have fixed my post.
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        – Michael Rozenberg
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        I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
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        – Leucippus
        Jun 22 '16 at 1:24




        $begingroup$
        I did not down vote, but did the review. I did, after the fix, up vote.
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        – Leucippus
        Jun 22 '16 at 1:24




        1




        1




        $begingroup$
        It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
        $endgroup$
        – miracle173
        Jul 3 '16 at 12:16




        $begingroup$
        It seems that everybody overlooked that this is the solutions of this problem. I changed the last step of the proof so hat it is simpler. I hope thi is ok. I also added an answer that is an extenede comment to this proof the shows how to confirm these calculations with the cas Maxima.
        $endgroup$
        – miracle173
        Jul 3 '16 at 12:16












        $begingroup$
        there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
        $endgroup$
        – miracle173
        Jul 3 '16 at 13:06




        $begingroup$
        there is an error in my edit. One cannot assume $zle y$. I try do undo the change.
        $endgroup$
        – miracle173
        Jul 3 '16 at 13:06












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        @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
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        – miracle173
        Jul 3 '16 at 13:22




        $begingroup$
        @MichaelRozenberg: can you elaborate how you get the the polynomial in t and the estimates?
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        – miracle173
        Jul 3 '16 at 13:22











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        Too long for a comment.





        The Engel form of Cauchy-Schwarz is not the right way:



        $$frac{(x^2)^2}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{(y^2)^2}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{8z^3+5x^3} geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        So we should prove that
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geqfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$



        which is equivalent to
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geq x+y+z$$
        but by Cauchy-Schwarz again we have $$x+y+z=frac{(x^2)^2}{x^3}
        +frac{(y^2)^2}{y^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{z^3}
        geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        and the inequalities are in the wrong way.






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          So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
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          I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
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          This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
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        Too long for a comment.





        The Engel form of Cauchy-Schwarz is not the right way:



        $$frac{(x^2)^2}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{(y^2)^2}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{8z^3+5x^3} geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        So we should prove that
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geqfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$



        which is equivalent to
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geq x+y+z$$
        but by Cauchy-Schwarz again we have $$x+y+z=frac{(x^2)^2}{x^3}
        +frac{(y^2)^2}{y^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{z^3}
        geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        and the inequalities are in the wrong way.






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          So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
          $endgroup$
          – Colescu
          May 22 '16 at 5:56






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          $begingroup$
          I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
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        • $begingroup$
          This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
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        $begingroup$

        Too long for a comment.





        The Engel form of Cauchy-Schwarz is not the right way:



        $$frac{(x^2)^2}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{(y^2)^2}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{8z^3+5x^3} geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        So we should prove that
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geqfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$



        which is equivalent to
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geq x+y+z$$
        but by Cauchy-Schwarz again we have $$x+y+z=frac{(x^2)^2}{x^3}
        +frac{(y^2)^2}{y^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{z^3}
        geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        and the inequalities are in the wrong way.






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        Too long for a comment.





        The Engel form of Cauchy-Schwarz is not the right way:



        $$frac{(x^2)^2}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{(y^2)^2}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{8z^3+5x^3} geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        So we should prove that
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{13(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geqfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$



        which is equivalent to
        $$frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}geq x+y+z$$
        but by Cauchy-Schwarz again we have $$x+y+z=frac{(x^2)^2}{x^3}
        +frac{(y^2)^2}{y^3}+frac{(z^2)^2}{z^3}
        geq frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(x^3+y^3+z^3)}$$



        and the inequalities are in the wrong way.







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        • 2




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          So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
          $endgroup$
          – Colescu
          May 22 '16 at 5:56






        • 5




          $begingroup$
          I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
          $endgroup$
          – user126154
          Jun 23 '16 at 9:03










        • $begingroup$
          This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
          $endgroup$
          – user477343
          Feb 2 at 13:58
















        • 2




          $begingroup$
          So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
          $endgroup$
          – Colescu
          May 22 '16 at 5:56






        • 5




          $begingroup$
          I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
          $endgroup$
          – user126154
          Jun 23 '16 at 9:03










        • $begingroup$
          This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
          $endgroup$
          – user477343
          Feb 2 at 13:58










        2




        2




        $begingroup$
        So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
        $endgroup$
        – Colescu
        May 22 '16 at 5:56




        $begingroup$
        So directly using CS is too weak. Any other stronger inequalities that we can try?
        $endgroup$
        – Colescu
        May 22 '16 at 5:56




        5




        5




        $begingroup$
        I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
        $endgroup$
        – user126154
        Jun 23 '16 at 9:03




        $begingroup$
        I've been asked to delete my answer, and I want to explain why I posted it. I know that this is not an answer to the original problem. I posted it because there where another anwer claiming that the problem could have been solved by directly applying the Cauchy Schwarz inequality. So I though that was a good idea to show that this way is not the right way. Now the other answer has been deleted, but I still think that it can be useful to note that a direct application of CS does not work.
        $endgroup$
        – user126154
        Jun 23 '16 at 9:03












        $begingroup$
        This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
        $endgroup$
        – user477343
        Feb 2 at 13:58






        $begingroup$
        This is very interesting... instead of an answer showing what works, we have an answer showing what doesn't work, which could prove to be equally useful! Love it! $(+1)$ :D
        $endgroup$
        – user477343
        Feb 2 at 13:58













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        This is more an extended comment to the answer of @MichaelRozenberg than an answer by its own.
        I used a short Maxima to confirm the equation derived by @MichaelRozenberg.
        I used Maxima because it is open source.



        Here is the Maxima script (statements are terminated by $ or by ;):





        "I use string to comment this file"$

        "the flag `display2d` controls
        the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy
        the maxima output to math.stackexchange"$

        "to make it easier to input the problem data
        we define to function g and f:"$

        g(r,s):=(8*r^3+5*s^3);

        f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s);

        "
        the initial problem has the form
        L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)
        but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and
        we state the problem in the form
        term0>=0
        where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)
        this is term0:
        "$

        term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)-(x+y+z)/13;

        "
        Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator
        and get term1 that satisfies
        term1>=0
        `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling
        "$

        term1:13/5*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0,ratsimp;

        "
        now we assume x=0 and v>=0
        `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions
        "$

        term2:term1,y=x+u,z=x+v;

        "
        ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x
        "$

        term3:ratsimp(term2,x);

        for p:0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print (coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p);

        "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg";

        lowerbound:u^5*v^5*(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40);

        "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial";

        lb:lowerbound,expand;

        "we want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
        The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w";

        "We want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
        The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.
        The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial
        in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.
        This value is called wdiff in the following.
        We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform
        to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.
        `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`
        and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number
        of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'
        Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are
        no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore
        for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.
        We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros
        greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.
        ";

        for k:0 thru 8 do (
        coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),
        coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
        wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u=q^2,v=w^2),
        poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),
        nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
        print("==="),
        print("k=",k),
        print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
        print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),
        print("wdiff=",wdiff),
        print("polynomial:",poly),
        print("factors=",factor(poly)),
        print("number of roots >0:",nr),
        print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s=2))
        );

        "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that
        it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values";

        poly:ratcoeff(lowerbound,u^5*v^5);

        poly,t=1;

        nroots(poly,0,inf);






        I ran the scrip on the Xmaxima console and get the following output.
        I use this console with this rather ugly kind of output because it
        can be simply copied and pasted to math.stackecchange.
        A prettier output can be found here at an online version of Maxima




        (%i1) display2d:false;
        (%o1) false
        (%i2)
        read and interpret file: #pD:/maxima/ineq1775572.mac
        (%i3) "I use string to comment this file"
        (%i4) "the flag `display2d` controls

        the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy

        the maxima output to math.stackexchange"
        (%i5) "to make it easier to input the problem data

        we define to function g and f:"
        (%i6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
        (%o6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
        (%i7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
        (%o7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
        (%i8) "

        the initial problem has the form

        L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)

        but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and

        we state the problem in the form

        term0>=0

        where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)

        this is term0:

        "
        (%i9) term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)+(-(x+y+z))/13
        (%o9) z^4/(8*z^3+5*x^3)+y^4/(5*z^3+8*y^3)+((-z)-y-x)/13+x^4/(5*y^3+8*x^3)
        (%i10) "

        Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator

        and get term1 that satisfies

        term1>=0

        `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling

        "
        (%i11) ev(term1:(13*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0)/5,ratsimp)
        (%o11) (25*y^3+40*x^3)*z^7+((-40*y^4)-40*x*y^3-64*x^3*y+40*x^4)*z^6
        +(40*y^6+39*x^3*y^3-40*x^6)*z^4
        +(40*y^7-64*x*y^6+39*x^3*y^4+39*x^4*y^3-40*x^6*y
        +25*x^7)
        *z^3+((-40*x^3*y^6)-64*x^6*y^3)*z+25*x^3*y^7
        -40*x^4*y^6+40*x^6*y^4+40*x^7*y^3
        (%i12) "

        now we assume x=0 and v>=0

        `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions

        "
        (%i13) ev(term2:term1,y = x+u,z = x+v)
        (%o13) (x+v)^3*(40*(x+u)^7-64*x*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^4+39*x^4*(x+u)^3+25*x^7
        -40*x^6*(x+u))
        +25*x^3*(x+u)^7+(x+v)*((-40*x^3*(x+u)^6)-64*x^6*(x+u)^3)
        +(x+v)^4*(40*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^3-40*x^6)-40*x^4*(x+u)^6+40*x^6*(x+u)^4
        +(x+v)^6*((-40*(x+u)^4)-40*x*(x+u)^3+40*x^4-64*x^3*(x+u))
        +(x+v)^7*(25*(x+u)^3+40*x^3)+40*x^7*(x+u)^3
        (%i14) "

        ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x

        "
        (%i15) term3:ratsimp(term2,x)
        (%o15) (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8+(390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)
        *x^7
        +(754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2
        +2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)
        *x^6
        +(741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3
        +3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)
        *x^5
        +(351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4
        +546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
        +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
        *x^4
        +(65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5
        -1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
        +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7)
        *x^3
        +(75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5
        +1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
        +120*u^7*v)
        *x^2
        +(75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5
        +240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
        +120*u^7*v^2)
        *x+25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4
        +40*u^7*v^3
        (%i16) for p from 0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print(coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p)
        25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
        (75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3+120*u^7*v^2)*x
        (75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2+120*u^7*v)*x^2
        (65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v
        +65*u^7)
        *x^3

        (351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
        *x^4

        (741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)*x^5
        (754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)*x^6
        (390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)*x^7
        (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8
        (%o16) done
        (%i17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
        (%o17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
        (%i18) lowerbound:u^5*v^5
        *(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2
        +299*t+40)
        (%o18) (156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40)*u^5*v
        ^5
        (%i19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
        (%o19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
        (%i20) ev(lb:lowerbound,expand)
        (%o20) 156*t^8*u^5*v^5+531*t^7*u^5*v^5+2*t^6*u^5*v^5-632*t^5*u^5*v^5
        -152*t^4*u^5*v^5+867*t^3*u^5*v^5+834*t^2*u^5*v^5
        +299*t*u^5*v^5+40*u^5*v^5
        (%i21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

        The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
        (%o21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

        The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
        (%i22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

        The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

        The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

        in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

        This value is called wdiff in the following.

        We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

        to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

        `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

        and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

        of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

        Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

        no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

        for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

        We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

        greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

        "
        (%o22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

        The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

        The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

        in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

        This value is called wdiff in the following.

        We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

        to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

        `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

        and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

        of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

        Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

        no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

        for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

        We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

        greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

        "
        (%i23) for k from 0 thru 8 do
        (coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
        wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u = q^2,v = w^2),
        poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
        print("==="),print("k=",k),print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
        print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),print("wdiff=",wdiff),
        print("polynomial:",poly),print("factors=",factor(poly)),
        print("number of roots >0:",nr),print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s = 2)))
        ===
        k= 0
        coeff(term3, x, 0 )= 25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
        coeff(lb, t, 0 )= 40*u^5*v^5
        wdiff= 25*q^6*w^14-40*q^8*w^12-40*q^10*w^10+40*q^12*w^8+40*q^14*w^6
        polynomial: 40*s^14+40*s^12-40*s^10-40*s^8+25*s^6
        factors= 5*s^6*(8*s^8+8*s^6-8*s^4-8*s^2+5)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 769600
        ===
        k= 1
        coeff(term3, x, 1 )=
        75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
        +120*u^7*v^2
        coeff(lb, t, 1 )= 299*u^5*v^5
        wdiff=
        q*w
        *(75*q^4*w^14-25*q^6*w^12-240*q^8*w^10+240*q^10*w^8+376*q^12*w^6
        +120*q^14*w^4)
        -299*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 120*s^15+376*s^13+240*s^11-299*s^10-240*s^9-25*s^7+75*s^5
        factors= s^5*(120*s^10+376*s^8+240*s^6-299*s^5-240*s^4-25*s^2+75)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 7074016
        ===
        k= 2
        coeff(term3, x, 2 )=
        75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
        +120*u^7*v
        coeff(lb, t, 2 )= 834*u^5*v^5
        wdiff=
        q^2*w^2
        *(75*q^2*w^14+165*q^4*w^12-675*q^6*w^10+1416*q^10*w^6+888*q^12*w^4
        +120*q^14*w^2)
        -834*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 120*s^16+888*s^14+1416*s^12-834*s^10-675*s^8+165*s^6+75*s^4
        factors= 3*s^4*(40*s^12+296*s^10+472*s^8-278*s^6-225*s^4+55*s^2+25)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 27198192
        ===
        k= 3
        coeff(term3, x, 3 )=
        65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
        +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7
        coeff(lb, t, 3 )= 867*u^5*v^5
        wdiff=
        q^3*w^3
        *(65*w^14+181*q^2*w^12-585*q^4*w^10-1286*q^6*w^8+2079*q^8*w^6
        +2808*q^10*w^4+768*q^12*w^2+65*q^14)
        -867*q^10*w^10
        polynomial:
        65*s^17+768*s^15+2808*s^13+2079*s^11-867*s^10-1286*s^9-585*s^7
        +181*s^5+65*s^3
        factors=
        s^3*(65*s^14+768*s^12+2808*s^10+2079*s^8-867*s^7-1286*s^6-585*s^4
        +181*s^2+65)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 59331624
        ===
        k= 4
        coeff(term3, x, 4 )=
        351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
        +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6
        coeff(lb, t, 4 )= -152*u^5*v^5
        wdiff=
        q^4*w^4
        *(351*w^12-489*q^2*w^10-2058*q^4*w^8+546*q^6*w^6+4437*q^8*w^4
        +2088*q^10*w^2+351*q^12)
        +152*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 351*s^16+2088*s^14+4437*s^12+698*s^10-2058*s^8-489*s^6+351*s^4
        factors= s^4*(351*s^12+2088*s^10+4437*s^8+698*s^6-2058*s^4-489*s^2+351)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 75549104
        ===
        k= 5
        coeff(term3, x, 5 )=
        741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5

        coeff(lb, t, 5 )= -632*u^5*v^5
        wdiff=
        q^5*w^5
        *(741*w^10-2178*q^2*w^8-1476*q^4*w^6+3504*q^6*w^4+2997*q^8*w^2
        +741*q^10)
        +632*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 741*s^15+2997*s^13+3504*s^11+632*s^10-1476*s^9-2178*s^7+741*s^5
        factors= s^5*(741*s^10+2997*s^8+3504*s^6+632*s^5-1476*s^4-2178*s^2+741)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 55645088
        ===
        k= 6
        coeff(term3, x, 6 )= 754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4
        coeff(lb, t, 6 )= 2*u^5*v^5
        wdiff=
        q^6*w^6*(754*w^8-2698*q^2*w^6+1170*q^4*w^4+2412*q^6*w^2+754*q^8)
        -2*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 754*s^14+2412*s^12+1168*s^10-2698*s^8+754*s^6
        factors= 2*s^6*(377*s^8+1206*s^6+584*s^4-1349*s^2+377)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 22786688
        ===
        k= 7
        coeff(term3, x, 7 )= 390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3
        coeff(lb, t, 7 )= 531*u^5*v^5
        wdiff= q^7*w^7*(390*w^6-1056*q^2*w^4+1134*q^4*w^2+390*q^6)-531*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7
        factors= 3*s^7*(130*s^6+378*s^4-177*s^3-352*s^2+130)
        number of roots >0: 0
        poly(2)= 4482816
        ===
        k= 8
        coeff(term3, x, 8 )= 156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2
        coeff(lb, t, 8 )= 156*u^5*v^5
        wdiff= q^8*w^8*(156*w^4-156*q^2*w^2+156*q^4)-156*q^10*w^10
        polynomial: 156*s^12-312*s^10+156*s^8
        factors= 156*(s-1)^2*s^8*(s+1)^2
        number of roots >0: 2
        poly(2)= 359424
        (%o23) done
        (%i24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

        it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
        (%o24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

        it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
        (%i25) poly:ratcoef(lowerbound,u^5*v^5)
        (%o25) 156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40
        (%i26) ev(poly,t = 1)
        (%o26) 1945
        (%i27) nroots(poly,0,inf)
        (%o27) 0
        (%i28)


        Here we list the coefficient functions so we can compare them to @MichaelRozenbergs function to see they are the same.



        $$begin{array}{r} tag{1}
        left(25,u^3,v^7-40,u^4,v^6+40,u^6,v^4+40,u^7,v^3right),x^0 \
        left(75,u^2,v^7-25,u^3,v^6-240,u^4,v^5+240,u^5,v^4+376,u^
        6,v^3+120,u^7,v^2right),x^1 \
        left(75,u,v^7+165,u^2,v^6-675,u^3,v^5+1416,u^5,v^3+888,u^
        6,v^2+120,u^7,vright),x^2 \
        left(65,v^7+181,u,v^6-585,u^2,v^5-1286,u^3,v^4+2079,u^4,v
        ^3+2808,u^5,v^2+768,u^6,v+65,u^7right),x^3 \
        left(351,v^6-489,u,v^5-2058,u^2,v^4+546,u^3,v^3+4437,u^4,
        v^2+2088,u^5,v+351,u^6right),x^4 \
        left(741,v^5-2178,u,v^4-1476,u^2,v^3+3504,u^3,v^2+2997,u^4
        ,v+741,u^5right),x^5 \
        left(754,v^4-2698,u,v^3+1170,u^2,v^2+2412,u^3,v+754,u^4
        right),x^6 \
        left(390,v^3-1056,u,v^2+1134,u^2,v+390,u^3right),x^7 \
        left(156,v^2-156,u,v+156,u^2right),x^8
        end{array}$$



        To proof that this function is larger than
        $$left(156,t^8+531,t^7+2,t^6-632,t^5-152,t^4+867,t^3+834,t^2+
        299,t+40right),u^5,v^5 tag{2}$$
        Rozenbergs's lower bound when we substitute $x$ by $tsqrt(uv)$ we show that each coefficient of the polynomial $(1)$ is larger than the corresponding coefficient of the lower bound polynomial $(2)$.
        Then we show that the polynomial $(2)$ is larger than $0$ for all nonnegative $u$, $v$ and $t$. Details can be found in the Maxima script.



        Instead of the Maxima nroots function, which is based on Sturm sequences, one could solve the equations by some numeric functions to see if there are zeros greater than zeros, e.g. calculating the roots of poly for k=7 gives the following:




        (%i29) allroots(390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7 ,s);
        (%o29) [s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,
        s = 0.007444635413686057*%i+0.7516683014652126,
        s = 0.7516683014652126-0.007444635413686057*%i,
        s = 0.3202741285237583*%i-0.6047586795035632,
        s = (-0.3202741285237583*%i)-0.6047586795035632,
        s = 1.93839678615644*%i-0.1469096219616494,
        s = (-1.93839678615644*%i)-0.1469096219616494]


        So we can also conclude are no real roots greater than 0. But this method is not really acceptable if one does not analyze the impact of the rounding errors. And this can be very complicated. The nroots function works with integers (for integer polynomials) and so there are no rounding errors.






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          This is more an extended comment to the answer of @MichaelRozenberg than an answer by its own.
          I used a short Maxima to confirm the equation derived by @MichaelRozenberg.
          I used Maxima because it is open source.



          Here is the Maxima script (statements are terminated by $ or by ;):





          "I use string to comment this file"$

          "the flag `display2d` controls
          the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy
          the maxima output to math.stackexchange"$

          "to make it easier to input the problem data
          we define to function g and f:"$

          g(r,s):=(8*r^3+5*s^3);

          f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s);

          "
          the initial problem has the form
          L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)
          but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and
          we state the problem in the form
          term0>=0
          where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)
          this is term0:
          "$

          term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)-(x+y+z)/13;

          "
          Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator
          and get term1 that satisfies
          term1>=0
          `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling
          "$

          term1:13/5*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0,ratsimp;

          "
          now we assume x=0 and v>=0
          `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions
          "$

          term2:term1,y=x+u,z=x+v;

          "
          ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x
          "$

          term3:ratsimp(term2,x);

          for p:0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print (coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p);

          "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg";

          lowerbound:u^5*v^5*(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40);

          "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial";

          lb:lowerbound,expand;

          "we want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
          The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w";

          "We want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
          The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.
          The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial
          in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.
          This value is called wdiff in the following.
          We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform
          to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.
          `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`
          and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number
          of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'
          Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are
          no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore
          for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.
          We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros
          greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.
          ";

          for k:0 thru 8 do (
          coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),
          coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
          wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u=q^2,v=w^2),
          poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),
          nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
          print("==="),
          print("k=",k),
          print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
          print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),
          print("wdiff=",wdiff),
          print("polynomial:",poly),
          print("factors=",factor(poly)),
          print("number of roots >0:",nr),
          print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s=2))
          );

          "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that
          it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values";

          poly:ratcoeff(lowerbound,u^5*v^5);

          poly,t=1;

          nroots(poly,0,inf);






          I ran the scrip on the Xmaxima console and get the following output.
          I use this console with this rather ugly kind of output because it
          can be simply copied and pasted to math.stackecchange.
          A prettier output can be found here at an online version of Maxima




          (%i1) display2d:false;
          (%o1) false
          (%i2)
          read and interpret file: #pD:/maxima/ineq1775572.mac
          (%i3) "I use string to comment this file"
          (%i4) "the flag `display2d` controls

          the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy

          the maxima output to math.stackexchange"
          (%i5) "to make it easier to input the problem data

          we define to function g and f:"
          (%i6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
          (%o6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
          (%i7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
          (%o7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
          (%i8) "

          the initial problem has the form

          L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)

          but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and

          we state the problem in the form

          term0>=0

          where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)

          this is term0:

          "
          (%i9) term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)+(-(x+y+z))/13
          (%o9) z^4/(8*z^3+5*x^3)+y^4/(5*z^3+8*y^3)+((-z)-y-x)/13+x^4/(5*y^3+8*x^3)
          (%i10) "

          Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator

          and get term1 that satisfies

          term1>=0

          `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling

          "
          (%i11) ev(term1:(13*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0)/5,ratsimp)
          (%o11) (25*y^3+40*x^3)*z^7+((-40*y^4)-40*x*y^3-64*x^3*y+40*x^4)*z^6
          +(40*y^6+39*x^3*y^3-40*x^6)*z^4
          +(40*y^7-64*x*y^6+39*x^3*y^4+39*x^4*y^3-40*x^6*y
          +25*x^7)
          *z^3+((-40*x^3*y^6)-64*x^6*y^3)*z+25*x^3*y^7
          -40*x^4*y^6+40*x^6*y^4+40*x^7*y^3
          (%i12) "

          now we assume x=0 and v>=0

          `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions

          "
          (%i13) ev(term2:term1,y = x+u,z = x+v)
          (%o13) (x+v)^3*(40*(x+u)^7-64*x*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^4+39*x^4*(x+u)^3+25*x^7
          -40*x^6*(x+u))
          +25*x^3*(x+u)^7+(x+v)*((-40*x^3*(x+u)^6)-64*x^6*(x+u)^3)
          +(x+v)^4*(40*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^3-40*x^6)-40*x^4*(x+u)^6+40*x^6*(x+u)^4
          +(x+v)^6*((-40*(x+u)^4)-40*x*(x+u)^3+40*x^4-64*x^3*(x+u))
          +(x+v)^7*(25*(x+u)^3+40*x^3)+40*x^7*(x+u)^3
          (%i14) "

          ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x

          "
          (%i15) term3:ratsimp(term2,x)
          (%o15) (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8+(390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)
          *x^7
          +(754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2
          +2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)
          *x^6
          +(741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3
          +3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)
          *x^5
          +(351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4
          +546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
          +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
          *x^4
          +(65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5
          -1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
          +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7)
          *x^3
          +(75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5
          +1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
          +120*u^7*v)
          *x^2
          +(75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5
          +240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
          +120*u^7*v^2)
          *x+25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4
          +40*u^7*v^3
          (%i16) for p from 0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print(coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p)
          25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
          (75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3+120*u^7*v^2)*x
          (75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2+120*u^7*v)*x^2
          (65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v
          +65*u^7)
          *x^3

          (351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
          *x^4

          (741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)*x^5
          (754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)*x^6
          (390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)*x^7
          (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8
          (%o16) done
          (%i17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
          (%o17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
          (%i18) lowerbound:u^5*v^5
          *(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2
          +299*t+40)
          (%o18) (156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40)*u^5*v
          ^5
          (%i19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
          (%o19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
          (%i20) ev(lb:lowerbound,expand)
          (%o20) 156*t^8*u^5*v^5+531*t^7*u^5*v^5+2*t^6*u^5*v^5-632*t^5*u^5*v^5
          -152*t^4*u^5*v^5+867*t^3*u^5*v^5+834*t^2*u^5*v^5
          +299*t*u^5*v^5+40*u^5*v^5
          (%i21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

          The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
          (%o21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

          The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
          (%i22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

          The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

          The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

          in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

          This value is called wdiff in the following.

          We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

          to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

          `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

          and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

          of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

          Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

          no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

          for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

          We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

          greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

          "
          (%o22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

          The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

          The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

          in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

          This value is called wdiff in the following.

          We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

          to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

          `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

          and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

          of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

          Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

          no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

          for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

          We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

          greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

          "
          (%i23) for k from 0 thru 8 do
          (coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
          wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u = q^2,v = w^2),
          poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
          print("==="),print("k=",k),print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
          print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),print("wdiff=",wdiff),
          print("polynomial:",poly),print("factors=",factor(poly)),
          print("number of roots >0:",nr),print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s = 2)))
          ===
          k= 0
          coeff(term3, x, 0 )= 25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
          coeff(lb, t, 0 )= 40*u^5*v^5
          wdiff= 25*q^6*w^14-40*q^8*w^12-40*q^10*w^10+40*q^12*w^8+40*q^14*w^6
          polynomial: 40*s^14+40*s^12-40*s^10-40*s^8+25*s^6
          factors= 5*s^6*(8*s^8+8*s^6-8*s^4-8*s^2+5)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 769600
          ===
          k= 1
          coeff(term3, x, 1 )=
          75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
          +120*u^7*v^2
          coeff(lb, t, 1 )= 299*u^5*v^5
          wdiff=
          q*w
          *(75*q^4*w^14-25*q^6*w^12-240*q^8*w^10+240*q^10*w^8+376*q^12*w^6
          +120*q^14*w^4)
          -299*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 120*s^15+376*s^13+240*s^11-299*s^10-240*s^9-25*s^7+75*s^5
          factors= s^5*(120*s^10+376*s^8+240*s^6-299*s^5-240*s^4-25*s^2+75)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 7074016
          ===
          k= 2
          coeff(term3, x, 2 )=
          75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
          +120*u^7*v
          coeff(lb, t, 2 )= 834*u^5*v^5
          wdiff=
          q^2*w^2
          *(75*q^2*w^14+165*q^4*w^12-675*q^6*w^10+1416*q^10*w^6+888*q^12*w^4
          +120*q^14*w^2)
          -834*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 120*s^16+888*s^14+1416*s^12-834*s^10-675*s^8+165*s^6+75*s^4
          factors= 3*s^4*(40*s^12+296*s^10+472*s^8-278*s^6-225*s^4+55*s^2+25)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 27198192
          ===
          k= 3
          coeff(term3, x, 3 )=
          65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
          +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7
          coeff(lb, t, 3 )= 867*u^5*v^5
          wdiff=
          q^3*w^3
          *(65*w^14+181*q^2*w^12-585*q^4*w^10-1286*q^6*w^8+2079*q^8*w^6
          +2808*q^10*w^4+768*q^12*w^2+65*q^14)
          -867*q^10*w^10
          polynomial:
          65*s^17+768*s^15+2808*s^13+2079*s^11-867*s^10-1286*s^9-585*s^7
          +181*s^5+65*s^3
          factors=
          s^3*(65*s^14+768*s^12+2808*s^10+2079*s^8-867*s^7-1286*s^6-585*s^4
          +181*s^2+65)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 59331624
          ===
          k= 4
          coeff(term3, x, 4 )=
          351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
          +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6
          coeff(lb, t, 4 )= -152*u^5*v^5
          wdiff=
          q^4*w^4
          *(351*w^12-489*q^2*w^10-2058*q^4*w^8+546*q^6*w^6+4437*q^8*w^4
          +2088*q^10*w^2+351*q^12)
          +152*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 351*s^16+2088*s^14+4437*s^12+698*s^10-2058*s^8-489*s^6+351*s^4
          factors= s^4*(351*s^12+2088*s^10+4437*s^8+698*s^6-2058*s^4-489*s^2+351)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 75549104
          ===
          k= 5
          coeff(term3, x, 5 )=
          741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5

          coeff(lb, t, 5 )= -632*u^5*v^5
          wdiff=
          q^5*w^5
          *(741*w^10-2178*q^2*w^8-1476*q^4*w^6+3504*q^6*w^4+2997*q^8*w^2
          +741*q^10)
          +632*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 741*s^15+2997*s^13+3504*s^11+632*s^10-1476*s^9-2178*s^7+741*s^5
          factors= s^5*(741*s^10+2997*s^8+3504*s^6+632*s^5-1476*s^4-2178*s^2+741)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 55645088
          ===
          k= 6
          coeff(term3, x, 6 )= 754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4
          coeff(lb, t, 6 )= 2*u^5*v^5
          wdiff=
          q^6*w^6*(754*w^8-2698*q^2*w^6+1170*q^4*w^4+2412*q^6*w^2+754*q^8)
          -2*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 754*s^14+2412*s^12+1168*s^10-2698*s^8+754*s^6
          factors= 2*s^6*(377*s^8+1206*s^6+584*s^4-1349*s^2+377)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 22786688
          ===
          k= 7
          coeff(term3, x, 7 )= 390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3
          coeff(lb, t, 7 )= 531*u^5*v^5
          wdiff= q^7*w^7*(390*w^6-1056*q^2*w^4+1134*q^4*w^2+390*q^6)-531*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7
          factors= 3*s^7*(130*s^6+378*s^4-177*s^3-352*s^2+130)
          number of roots >0: 0
          poly(2)= 4482816
          ===
          k= 8
          coeff(term3, x, 8 )= 156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2
          coeff(lb, t, 8 )= 156*u^5*v^5
          wdiff= q^8*w^8*(156*w^4-156*q^2*w^2+156*q^4)-156*q^10*w^10
          polynomial: 156*s^12-312*s^10+156*s^8
          factors= 156*(s-1)^2*s^8*(s+1)^2
          number of roots >0: 2
          poly(2)= 359424
          (%o23) done
          (%i24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

          it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
          (%o24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

          it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
          (%i25) poly:ratcoef(lowerbound,u^5*v^5)
          (%o25) 156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40
          (%i26) ev(poly,t = 1)
          (%o26) 1945
          (%i27) nroots(poly,0,inf)
          (%o27) 0
          (%i28)


          Here we list the coefficient functions so we can compare them to @MichaelRozenbergs function to see they are the same.



          $$begin{array}{r} tag{1}
          left(25,u^3,v^7-40,u^4,v^6+40,u^6,v^4+40,u^7,v^3right),x^0 \
          left(75,u^2,v^7-25,u^3,v^6-240,u^4,v^5+240,u^5,v^4+376,u^
          6,v^3+120,u^7,v^2right),x^1 \
          left(75,u,v^7+165,u^2,v^6-675,u^3,v^5+1416,u^5,v^3+888,u^
          6,v^2+120,u^7,vright),x^2 \
          left(65,v^7+181,u,v^6-585,u^2,v^5-1286,u^3,v^4+2079,u^4,v
          ^3+2808,u^5,v^2+768,u^6,v+65,u^7right),x^3 \
          left(351,v^6-489,u,v^5-2058,u^2,v^4+546,u^3,v^3+4437,u^4,
          v^2+2088,u^5,v+351,u^6right),x^4 \
          left(741,v^5-2178,u,v^4-1476,u^2,v^3+3504,u^3,v^2+2997,u^4
          ,v+741,u^5right),x^5 \
          left(754,v^4-2698,u,v^3+1170,u^2,v^2+2412,u^3,v+754,u^4
          right),x^6 \
          left(390,v^3-1056,u,v^2+1134,u^2,v+390,u^3right),x^7 \
          left(156,v^2-156,u,v+156,u^2right),x^8
          end{array}$$



          To proof that this function is larger than
          $$left(156,t^8+531,t^7+2,t^6-632,t^5-152,t^4+867,t^3+834,t^2+
          299,t+40right),u^5,v^5 tag{2}$$
          Rozenbergs's lower bound when we substitute $x$ by $tsqrt(uv)$ we show that each coefficient of the polynomial $(1)$ is larger than the corresponding coefficient of the lower bound polynomial $(2)$.
          Then we show that the polynomial $(2)$ is larger than $0$ for all nonnegative $u$, $v$ and $t$. Details can be found in the Maxima script.



          Instead of the Maxima nroots function, which is based on Sturm sequences, one could solve the equations by some numeric functions to see if there are zeros greater than zeros, e.g. calculating the roots of poly for k=7 gives the following:




          (%i29) allroots(390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7 ,s);
          (%o29) [s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,
          s = 0.007444635413686057*%i+0.7516683014652126,
          s = 0.7516683014652126-0.007444635413686057*%i,
          s = 0.3202741285237583*%i-0.6047586795035632,
          s = (-0.3202741285237583*%i)-0.6047586795035632,
          s = 1.93839678615644*%i-0.1469096219616494,
          s = (-1.93839678615644*%i)-0.1469096219616494]


          So we can also conclude are no real roots greater than 0. But this method is not really acceptable if one does not analyze the impact of the rounding errors. And this can be very complicated. The nroots function works with integers (for integer polynomials) and so there are no rounding errors.






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            This is more an extended comment to the answer of @MichaelRozenberg than an answer by its own.
            I used a short Maxima to confirm the equation derived by @MichaelRozenberg.
            I used Maxima because it is open source.



            Here is the Maxima script (statements are terminated by $ or by ;):





            "I use string to comment this file"$

            "the flag `display2d` controls
            the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy
            the maxima output to math.stackexchange"$

            "to make it easier to input the problem data
            we define to function g and f:"$

            g(r,s):=(8*r^3+5*s^3);

            f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s);

            "
            the initial problem has the form
            L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)
            but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and
            we state the problem in the form
            term0>=0
            where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)
            this is term0:
            "$

            term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)-(x+y+z)/13;

            "
            Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator
            and get term1 that satisfies
            term1>=0
            `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling
            "$

            term1:13/5*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0,ratsimp;

            "
            now we assume x=0 and v>=0
            `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions
            "$

            term2:term1,y=x+u,z=x+v;

            "
            ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x
            "$

            term3:ratsimp(term2,x);

            for p:0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print (coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p);

            "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg";

            lowerbound:u^5*v^5*(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40);

            "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial";

            lb:lowerbound,expand;

            "we want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w";

            "We want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.
            The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial
            in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.
            This value is called wdiff in the following.
            We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform
            to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.
            `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`
            and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number
            of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'
            Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are
            no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore
            for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.
            We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros
            greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.
            ";

            for k:0 thru 8 do (
            coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),
            coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
            wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u=q^2,v=w^2),
            poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),
            nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
            print("==="),
            print("k=",k),
            print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
            print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),
            print("wdiff=",wdiff),
            print("polynomial:",poly),
            print("factors=",factor(poly)),
            print("number of roots >0:",nr),
            print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s=2))
            );

            "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that
            it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values";

            poly:ratcoeff(lowerbound,u^5*v^5);

            poly,t=1;

            nroots(poly,0,inf);






            I ran the scrip on the Xmaxima console and get the following output.
            I use this console with this rather ugly kind of output because it
            can be simply copied and pasted to math.stackecchange.
            A prettier output can be found here at an online version of Maxima




            (%i1) display2d:false;
            (%o1) false
            (%i2)
            read and interpret file: #pD:/maxima/ineq1775572.mac
            (%i3) "I use string to comment this file"
            (%i4) "the flag `display2d` controls

            the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy

            the maxima output to math.stackexchange"
            (%i5) "to make it easier to input the problem data

            we define to function g and f:"
            (%i6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
            (%o6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
            (%i7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
            (%o7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
            (%i8) "

            the initial problem has the form

            L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)

            but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and

            we state the problem in the form

            term0>=0

            where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)

            this is term0:

            "
            (%i9) term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)+(-(x+y+z))/13
            (%o9) z^4/(8*z^3+5*x^3)+y^4/(5*z^3+8*y^3)+((-z)-y-x)/13+x^4/(5*y^3+8*x^3)
            (%i10) "

            Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator

            and get term1 that satisfies

            term1>=0

            `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling

            "
            (%i11) ev(term1:(13*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0)/5,ratsimp)
            (%o11) (25*y^3+40*x^3)*z^7+((-40*y^4)-40*x*y^3-64*x^3*y+40*x^4)*z^6
            +(40*y^6+39*x^3*y^3-40*x^6)*z^4
            +(40*y^7-64*x*y^6+39*x^3*y^4+39*x^4*y^3-40*x^6*y
            +25*x^7)
            *z^3+((-40*x^3*y^6)-64*x^6*y^3)*z+25*x^3*y^7
            -40*x^4*y^6+40*x^6*y^4+40*x^7*y^3
            (%i12) "

            now we assume x=0 and v>=0

            `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions

            "
            (%i13) ev(term2:term1,y = x+u,z = x+v)
            (%o13) (x+v)^3*(40*(x+u)^7-64*x*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^4+39*x^4*(x+u)^3+25*x^7
            -40*x^6*(x+u))
            +25*x^3*(x+u)^7+(x+v)*((-40*x^3*(x+u)^6)-64*x^6*(x+u)^3)
            +(x+v)^4*(40*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^3-40*x^6)-40*x^4*(x+u)^6+40*x^6*(x+u)^4
            +(x+v)^6*((-40*(x+u)^4)-40*x*(x+u)^3+40*x^4-64*x^3*(x+u))
            +(x+v)^7*(25*(x+u)^3+40*x^3)+40*x^7*(x+u)^3
            (%i14) "

            ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x

            "
            (%i15) term3:ratsimp(term2,x)
            (%o15) (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8+(390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)
            *x^7
            +(754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2
            +2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)
            *x^6
            +(741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3
            +3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)
            *x^5
            +(351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4
            +546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
            +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
            *x^4
            +(65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5
            -1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
            +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7)
            *x^3
            +(75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5
            +1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
            +120*u^7*v)
            *x^2
            +(75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5
            +240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
            +120*u^7*v^2)
            *x+25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4
            +40*u^7*v^3
            (%i16) for p from 0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print(coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p)
            25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
            (75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3+120*u^7*v^2)*x
            (75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2+120*u^7*v)*x^2
            (65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v
            +65*u^7)
            *x^3

            (351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
            *x^4

            (741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)*x^5
            (754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)*x^6
            (390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)*x^7
            (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8
            (%o16) done
            (%i17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
            (%o17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
            (%i18) lowerbound:u^5*v^5
            *(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2
            +299*t+40)
            (%o18) (156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40)*u^5*v
            ^5
            (%i19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
            (%o19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
            (%i20) ev(lb:lowerbound,expand)
            (%o20) 156*t^8*u^5*v^5+531*t^7*u^5*v^5+2*t^6*u^5*v^5-632*t^5*u^5*v^5
            -152*t^4*u^5*v^5+867*t^3*u^5*v^5+834*t^2*u^5*v^5
            +299*t*u^5*v^5+40*u^5*v^5
            (%i21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
            (%o21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
            (%i22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

            The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

            in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

            This value is called wdiff in the following.

            We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

            to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

            `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

            and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

            of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

            Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

            no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

            for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

            We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

            greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

            "
            (%o22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

            The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

            in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

            This value is called wdiff in the following.

            We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

            to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

            `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

            and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

            of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

            Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

            no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

            for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

            We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

            greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

            "
            (%i23) for k from 0 thru 8 do
            (coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
            wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u = q^2,v = w^2),
            poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
            print("==="),print("k=",k),print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
            print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),print("wdiff=",wdiff),
            print("polynomial:",poly),print("factors=",factor(poly)),
            print("number of roots >0:",nr),print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s = 2)))
            ===
            k= 0
            coeff(term3, x, 0 )= 25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
            coeff(lb, t, 0 )= 40*u^5*v^5
            wdiff= 25*q^6*w^14-40*q^8*w^12-40*q^10*w^10+40*q^12*w^8+40*q^14*w^6
            polynomial: 40*s^14+40*s^12-40*s^10-40*s^8+25*s^6
            factors= 5*s^6*(8*s^8+8*s^6-8*s^4-8*s^2+5)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 769600
            ===
            k= 1
            coeff(term3, x, 1 )=
            75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
            +120*u^7*v^2
            coeff(lb, t, 1 )= 299*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q*w
            *(75*q^4*w^14-25*q^6*w^12-240*q^8*w^10+240*q^10*w^8+376*q^12*w^6
            +120*q^14*w^4)
            -299*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 120*s^15+376*s^13+240*s^11-299*s^10-240*s^9-25*s^7+75*s^5
            factors= s^5*(120*s^10+376*s^8+240*s^6-299*s^5-240*s^4-25*s^2+75)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 7074016
            ===
            k= 2
            coeff(term3, x, 2 )=
            75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
            +120*u^7*v
            coeff(lb, t, 2 )= 834*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^2*w^2
            *(75*q^2*w^14+165*q^4*w^12-675*q^6*w^10+1416*q^10*w^6+888*q^12*w^4
            +120*q^14*w^2)
            -834*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 120*s^16+888*s^14+1416*s^12-834*s^10-675*s^8+165*s^6+75*s^4
            factors= 3*s^4*(40*s^12+296*s^10+472*s^8-278*s^6-225*s^4+55*s^2+25)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 27198192
            ===
            k= 3
            coeff(term3, x, 3 )=
            65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
            +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7
            coeff(lb, t, 3 )= 867*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^3*w^3
            *(65*w^14+181*q^2*w^12-585*q^4*w^10-1286*q^6*w^8+2079*q^8*w^6
            +2808*q^10*w^4+768*q^12*w^2+65*q^14)
            -867*q^10*w^10
            polynomial:
            65*s^17+768*s^15+2808*s^13+2079*s^11-867*s^10-1286*s^9-585*s^7
            +181*s^5+65*s^3
            factors=
            s^3*(65*s^14+768*s^12+2808*s^10+2079*s^8-867*s^7-1286*s^6-585*s^4
            +181*s^2+65)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 59331624
            ===
            k= 4
            coeff(term3, x, 4 )=
            351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
            +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6
            coeff(lb, t, 4 )= -152*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^4*w^4
            *(351*w^12-489*q^2*w^10-2058*q^4*w^8+546*q^6*w^6+4437*q^8*w^4
            +2088*q^10*w^2+351*q^12)
            +152*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 351*s^16+2088*s^14+4437*s^12+698*s^10-2058*s^8-489*s^6+351*s^4
            factors= s^4*(351*s^12+2088*s^10+4437*s^8+698*s^6-2058*s^4-489*s^2+351)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 75549104
            ===
            k= 5
            coeff(term3, x, 5 )=
            741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5

            coeff(lb, t, 5 )= -632*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^5*w^5
            *(741*w^10-2178*q^2*w^8-1476*q^4*w^6+3504*q^6*w^4+2997*q^8*w^2
            +741*q^10)
            +632*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 741*s^15+2997*s^13+3504*s^11+632*s^10-1476*s^9-2178*s^7+741*s^5
            factors= s^5*(741*s^10+2997*s^8+3504*s^6+632*s^5-1476*s^4-2178*s^2+741)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 55645088
            ===
            k= 6
            coeff(term3, x, 6 )= 754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4
            coeff(lb, t, 6 )= 2*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^6*w^6*(754*w^8-2698*q^2*w^6+1170*q^4*w^4+2412*q^6*w^2+754*q^8)
            -2*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 754*s^14+2412*s^12+1168*s^10-2698*s^8+754*s^6
            factors= 2*s^6*(377*s^8+1206*s^6+584*s^4-1349*s^2+377)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 22786688
            ===
            k= 7
            coeff(term3, x, 7 )= 390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3
            coeff(lb, t, 7 )= 531*u^5*v^5
            wdiff= q^7*w^7*(390*w^6-1056*q^2*w^4+1134*q^4*w^2+390*q^6)-531*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7
            factors= 3*s^7*(130*s^6+378*s^4-177*s^3-352*s^2+130)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 4482816
            ===
            k= 8
            coeff(term3, x, 8 )= 156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2
            coeff(lb, t, 8 )= 156*u^5*v^5
            wdiff= q^8*w^8*(156*w^4-156*q^2*w^2+156*q^4)-156*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 156*s^12-312*s^10+156*s^8
            factors= 156*(s-1)^2*s^8*(s+1)^2
            number of roots >0: 2
            poly(2)= 359424
            (%o23) done
            (%i24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

            it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
            (%o24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

            it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
            (%i25) poly:ratcoef(lowerbound,u^5*v^5)
            (%o25) 156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40
            (%i26) ev(poly,t = 1)
            (%o26) 1945
            (%i27) nroots(poly,0,inf)
            (%o27) 0
            (%i28)


            Here we list the coefficient functions so we can compare them to @MichaelRozenbergs function to see they are the same.



            $$begin{array}{r} tag{1}
            left(25,u^3,v^7-40,u^4,v^6+40,u^6,v^4+40,u^7,v^3right),x^0 \
            left(75,u^2,v^7-25,u^3,v^6-240,u^4,v^5+240,u^5,v^4+376,u^
            6,v^3+120,u^7,v^2right),x^1 \
            left(75,u,v^7+165,u^2,v^6-675,u^3,v^5+1416,u^5,v^3+888,u^
            6,v^2+120,u^7,vright),x^2 \
            left(65,v^7+181,u,v^6-585,u^2,v^5-1286,u^3,v^4+2079,u^4,v
            ^3+2808,u^5,v^2+768,u^6,v+65,u^7right),x^3 \
            left(351,v^6-489,u,v^5-2058,u^2,v^4+546,u^3,v^3+4437,u^4,
            v^2+2088,u^5,v+351,u^6right),x^4 \
            left(741,v^5-2178,u,v^4-1476,u^2,v^3+3504,u^3,v^2+2997,u^4
            ,v+741,u^5right),x^5 \
            left(754,v^4-2698,u,v^3+1170,u^2,v^2+2412,u^3,v+754,u^4
            right),x^6 \
            left(390,v^3-1056,u,v^2+1134,u^2,v+390,u^3right),x^7 \
            left(156,v^2-156,u,v+156,u^2right),x^8
            end{array}$$



            To proof that this function is larger than
            $$left(156,t^8+531,t^7+2,t^6-632,t^5-152,t^4+867,t^3+834,t^2+
            299,t+40right),u^5,v^5 tag{2}$$
            Rozenbergs's lower bound when we substitute $x$ by $tsqrt(uv)$ we show that each coefficient of the polynomial $(1)$ is larger than the corresponding coefficient of the lower bound polynomial $(2)$.
            Then we show that the polynomial $(2)$ is larger than $0$ for all nonnegative $u$, $v$ and $t$. Details can be found in the Maxima script.



            Instead of the Maxima nroots function, which is based on Sturm sequences, one could solve the equations by some numeric functions to see if there are zeros greater than zeros, e.g. calculating the roots of poly for k=7 gives the following:




            (%i29) allroots(390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7 ,s);
            (%o29) [s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,
            s = 0.007444635413686057*%i+0.7516683014652126,
            s = 0.7516683014652126-0.007444635413686057*%i,
            s = 0.3202741285237583*%i-0.6047586795035632,
            s = (-0.3202741285237583*%i)-0.6047586795035632,
            s = 1.93839678615644*%i-0.1469096219616494,
            s = (-1.93839678615644*%i)-0.1469096219616494]


            So we can also conclude are no real roots greater than 0. But this method is not really acceptable if one does not analyze the impact of the rounding errors. And this can be very complicated. The nroots function works with integers (for integer polynomials) and so there are no rounding errors.






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            $endgroup$



            This is more an extended comment to the answer of @MichaelRozenberg than an answer by its own.
            I used a short Maxima to confirm the equation derived by @MichaelRozenberg.
            I used Maxima because it is open source.



            Here is the Maxima script (statements are terminated by $ or by ;):





            "I use string to comment this file"$

            "the flag `display2d` controls
            the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy
            the maxima output to math.stackexchange"$

            "to make it easier to input the problem data
            we define to function g and f:"$

            g(r,s):=(8*r^3+5*s^3);

            f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s);

            "
            the initial problem has the form
            L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)
            but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and
            we state the problem in the form
            term0>=0
            where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)
            this is term0:
            "$

            term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)-(x+y+z)/13;

            "
            Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator
            and get term1 that satisfies
            term1>=0
            `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling
            "$

            term1:13/5*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0,ratsimp;

            "
            now we assume x=0 and v>=0
            `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions
            "$

            term2:term1,y=x+u,z=x+v;

            "
            ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x
            "$

            term3:ratsimp(term2,x);

            for p:0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print (coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p);

            "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg";

            lowerbound:u^5*v^5*(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40);

            "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial";

            lb:lowerbound,expand;

            "we want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w";

            "We want to avoid squareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.
            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.
            The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial
            in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.
            This value is called wdiff in the following.
            We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform
            to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.
            `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`
            and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number
            of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'
            Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are
            no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore
            for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.
            We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros
            greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.
            ";

            for k:0 thru 8 do (
            coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),
            coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
            wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u=q^2,v=w^2),
            poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),
            nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
            print("==="),
            print("k=",k),
            print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
            print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),
            print("wdiff=",wdiff),
            print("polynomial:",poly),
            print("factors=",factor(poly)),
            print("number of roots >0:",nr),
            print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s=2))
            );

            "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that
            it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values";

            poly:ratcoeff(lowerbound,u^5*v^5);

            poly,t=1;

            nroots(poly,0,inf);






            I ran the scrip on the Xmaxima console and get the following output.
            I use this console with this rather ugly kind of output because it
            can be simply copied and pasted to math.stackecchange.
            A prettier output can be found here at an online version of Maxima




            (%i1) display2d:false;
            (%o1) false
            (%i2)
            read and interpret file: #pD:/maxima/ineq1775572.mac
            (%i3) "I use string to comment this file"
            (%i4) "the flag `display2d` controls

            the display of the output. You can unset it (display2d:false), that makes it easy to copy

            the maxima output to math.stackexchange"
            (%i5) "to make it easier to input the problem data

            we define to function g and f:"
            (%i6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
            (%o6) g(r,s):=8*r^3+5*s^3
            (%i7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
            (%o7) f(r,s):=r^4/g(r,s)
            (%i8) "

            the initial problem has the form

            L(x,y,t)>=R(x,y,z)

            but we subtract R(x,y,z) from this equation and

            we state the problem in the form

            term0>=0

            where term0 is L(x,y,z)-R(x,y,z)

            this is term0:

            "
            (%i9) term0:f(x,y)+f(y,z)+f(z,x)+(-(x+y+z))/13
            (%o9) z^4/(8*z^3+5*x^3)+y^4/(5*z^3+8*y^3)+((-z)-y-x)/13+x^4/(5*y^3+8*x^3)
            (%i10) "

            Now we multiply the term0 by a positive fraction of the (positive) common denominator

            and get term1 that satisfies

            term1>=0

            `ratsimp` does some simplification like cancelling

            "
            (%i11) ev(term1:(13*g(x,y)*g(y,z)*g(z,x)*term0)/5,ratsimp)
            (%o11) (25*y^3+40*x^3)*z^7+((-40*y^4)-40*x*y^3-64*x^3*y+40*x^4)*z^6
            +(40*y^6+39*x^3*y^3-40*x^6)*z^4
            +(40*y^7-64*x*y^6+39*x^3*y^4+39*x^4*y^3-40*x^6*y
            +25*x^7)
            *z^3+((-40*x^3*y^6)-64*x^6*y^3)*z+25*x^3*y^7
            -40*x^4*y^6+40*x^6*y^4+40*x^7*y^3
            (%i12) "

            now we assume x=0 and v>=0

            `,y=x+u` and `,z=x+v` do these substitutions

            "
            (%i13) ev(term2:term1,y = x+u,z = x+v)
            (%o13) (x+v)^3*(40*(x+u)^7-64*x*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^4+39*x^4*(x+u)^3+25*x^7
            -40*x^6*(x+u))
            +25*x^3*(x+u)^7+(x+v)*((-40*x^3*(x+u)^6)-64*x^6*(x+u)^3)
            +(x+v)^4*(40*(x+u)^6+39*x^3*(x+u)^3-40*x^6)-40*x^4*(x+u)^6+40*x^6*(x+u)^4
            +(x+v)^6*((-40*(x+u)^4)-40*x*(x+u)^3+40*x^4-64*x^3*(x+u))
            +(x+v)^7*(25*(x+u)^3+40*x^3)+40*x^7*(x+u)^3
            (%i14) "

            ratsimp(.,x) does some simplification and displays the term as polynomial of x

            "
            (%i15) term3:ratsimp(term2,x)
            (%o15) (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8+(390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)
            *x^7
            +(754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2
            +2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)
            *x^6
            +(741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3
            +3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)
            *x^5
            +(351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4
            +546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
            +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
            *x^4
            +(65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5
            -1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
            +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7)
            *x^3
            +(75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5
            +1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
            +120*u^7*v)
            *x^2
            +(75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5
            +240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
            +120*u^7*v^2)
            *x+25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4
            +40*u^7*v^3
            (%i16) for p from 0 thru hipow(term3,x) do print(coeff(term3,x,p)*x^p)
            25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
            (75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3+120*u^7*v^2)*x
            (75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2+120*u^7*v)*x^2
            (65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3+2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v
            +65*u^7)
            *x^3

            (351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2+2088*u^5*v+351*u^6)
            *x^4

            (741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5)*x^5
            (754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4)*x^6
            (390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3)*x^7
            (156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2)*x^8
            (%o16) done
            (%i17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
            (%o17) "the lowerbound polynomial is given by @Michael Rozenberg"
            (%i18) lowerbound:u^5*v^5
            *(156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2
            +299*t+40)
            (%o18) (156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40)*u^5*v
            ^5
            (%i19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
            (%o19) "we use the expanded version of the lowerbound polynomial"
            (%i20) ev(lb:lowerbound,expand)
            (%o20) 156*t^8*u^5*v^5+531*t^7*u^5*v^5+2*t^6*u^5*v^5-632*t^5*u^5*v^5
            -152*t^4*u^5*v^5+867*t^3*u^5*v^5+834*t^2*u^5*v^5
            +299*t*u^5*v^5+40*u^5*v^5
            (%i21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
            (%o21) "we want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w"
            (%i22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

            The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

            in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

            This value is called wdiff in the following.

            We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

            to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

            `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

            and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

            of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

            Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

            no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

            for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

            We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

            greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

            "
            (%o22) "We want to avoid suareroots and therefore substitute u bei `q^2` and v by `w^2`.

            The expression `sqrt(u*v)` (see thhe proof of Michael Rozenberg) then can be replaced by q*w.

            The following loop checks for each exponent k, that the coefficient of the original polynomial

            in x (adjusted by sqrt(u*v)^k) is larger than the coeffiecient of the lowerbound polynomial.

            This value is called wdiff in the following.

            We already mentioned that we do not use the original variable u and v but first transform

            to q and w as described above and therefor the adjustment is (q*w)^k instead of sqrt(u*v)^k.

            `wdiff` is a homogenous polynom of degree 20. We devide by `w`and replace `q/w` by `s`

            and get the polynomial `poly` with vrailbe `s`. For these polynomials we calculate the number

            of roots greater than 0. This can be done bei the `nroot` function that uses 'sturm's theorem'

            Then we calculate the value of poly at 2. If this value is greate 0 and there are

            no zeros greater 0 then wdiff is greater or equal 0 for all nonnegative q and w and therefore

            for all nonegative u and v. This was what we wanted to proof.

            We see that all polynomails are positive at 2 and also for all except for k=8 there are no zeros

            greater than 0. For k=8 we have a zero with even multiplicity.

            "
            (%i23) for k from 0 thru 8 do
            (coff_x:coeff(term3,x,k),coeff_t:coeff(lb,t,k),
            wdiff:ev(coff_x*(q*w)^k-coeff_t,u = q^2,v = w^2),
            poly:ratsubst(s,q/w,expand(wdiff/w^20)),nr:nroots(poly,0,inf),
            print("==="),print("k=",k),print("coeff(term3, x,",k,")=",coff_x),
            print("coeff(lb, t,",k,")=",coeff_t),print("wdiff=",wdiff),
            print("polynomial:",poly),print("factors=",factor(poly)),
            print("number of roots >0:",nr),print("poly(2)=",ev(poly,s = 2)))
            ===
            k= 0
            coeff(term3, x, 0 )= 25*u^3*v^7-40*u^4*v^6+40*u^6*v^4+40*u^7*v^3
            coeff(lb, t, 0 )= 40*u^5*v^5
            wdiff= 25*q^6*w^14-40*q^8*w^12-40*q^10*w^10+40*q^12*w^8+40*q^14*w^6
            polynomial: 40*s^14+40*s^12-40*s^10-40*s^8+25*s^6
            factors= 5*s^6*(8*s^8+8*s^6-8*s^4-8*s^2+5)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 769600
            ===
            k= 1
            coeff(term3, x, 1 )=
            75*u^2*v^7-25*u^3*v^6-240*u^4*v^5+240*u^5*v^4+376*u^6*v^3
            +120*u^7*v^2
            coeff(lb, t, 1 )= 299*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q*w
            *(75*q^4*w^14-25*q^6*w^12-240*q^8*w^10+240*q^10*w^8+376*q^12*w^6
            +120*q^14*w^4)
            -299*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 120*s^15+376*s^13+240*s^11-299*s^10-240*s^9-25*s^7+75*s^5
            factors= s^5*(120*s^10+376*s^8+240*s^6-299*s^5-240*s^4-25*s^2+75)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 7074016
            ===
            k= 2
            coeff(term3, x, 2 )=
            75*u*v^7+165*u^2*v^6-675*u^3*v^5+1416*u^5*v^3+888*u^6*v^2
            +120*u^7*v
            coeff(lb, t, 2 )= 834*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^2*w^2
            *(75*q^2*w^14+165*q^4*w^12-675*q^6*w^10+1416*q^10*w^6+888*q^12*w^4
            +120*q^14*w^2)
            -834*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 120*s^16+888*s^14+1416*s^12-834*s^10-675*s^8+165*s^6+75*s^4
            factors= 3*s^4*(40*s^12+296*s^10+472*s^8-278*s^6-225*s^4+55*s^2+25)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 27198192
            ===
            k= 3
            coeff(term3, x, 3 )=
            65*v^7+181*u*v^6-585*u^2*v^5-1286*u^3*v^4+2079*u^4*v^3
            +2808*u^5*v^2+768*u^6*v+65*u^7
            coeff(lb, t, 3 )= 867*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^3*w^3
            *(65*w^14+181*q^2*w^12-585*q^4*w^10-1286*q^6*w^8+2079*q^8*w^6
            +2808*q^10*w^4+768*q^12*w^2+65*q^14)
            -867*q^10*w^10
            polynomial:
            65*s^17+768*s^15+2808*s^13+2079*s^11-867*s^10-1286*s^9-585*s^7
            +181*s^5+65*s^3
            factors=
            s^3*(65*s^14+768*s^12+2808*s^10+2079*s^8-867*s^7-1286*s^6-585*s^4
            +181*s^2+65)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 59331624
            ===
            k= 4
            coeff(term3, x, 4 )=
            351*v^6-489*u*v^5-2058*u^2*v^4+546*u^3*v^3+4437*u^4*v^2
            +2088*u^5*v+351*u^6
            coeff(lb, t, 4 )= -152*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^4*w^4
            *(351*w^12-489*q^2*w^10-2058*q^4*w^8+546*q^6*w^6+4437*q^8*w^4
            +2088*q^10*w^2+351*q^12)
            +152*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 351*s^16+2088*s^14+4437*s^12+698*s^10-2058*s^8-489*s^6+351*s^4
            factors= s^4*(351*s^12+2088*s^10+4437*s^8+698*s^6-2058*s^4-489*s^2+351)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 75549104
            ===
            k= 5
            coeff(term3, x, 5 )=
            741*v^5-2178*u*v^4-1476*u^2*v^3+3504*u^3*v^2+2997*u^4*v+741*u^5

            coeff(lb, t, 5 )= -632*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^5*w^5
            *(741*w^10-2178*q^2*w^8-1476*q^4*w^6+3504*q^6*w^4+2997*q^8*w^2
            +741*q^10)
            +632*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 741*s^15+2997*s^13+3504*s^11+632*s^10-1476*s^9-2178*s^7+741*s^5
            factors= s^5*(741*s^10+2997*s^8+3504*s^6+632*s^5-1476*s^4-2178*s^2+741)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 55645088
            ===
            k= 6
            coeff(term3, x, 6 )= 754*v^4-2698*u*v^3+1170*u^2*v^2+2412*u^3*v+754*u^4
            coeff(lb, t, 6 )= 2*u^5*v^5
            wdiff=
            q^6*w^6*(754*w^8-2698*q^2*w^6+1170*q^4*w^4+2412*q^6*w^2+754*q^8)
            -2*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 754*s^14+2412*s^12+1168*s^10-2698*s^8+754*s^6
            factors= 2*s^6*(377*s^8+1206*s^6+584*s^4-1349*s^2+377)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 22786688
            ===
            k= 7
            coeff(term3, x, 7 )= 390*v^3-1056*u*v^2+1134*u^2*v+390*u^3
            coeff(lb, t, 7 )= 531*u^5*v^5
            wdiff= q^7*w^7*(390*w^6-1056*q^2*w^4+1134*q^4*w^2+390*q^6)-531*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7
            factors= 3*s^7*(130*s^6+378*s^4-177*s^3-352*s^2+130)
            number of roots >0: 0
            poly(2)= 4482816
            ===
            k= 8
            coeff(term3, x, 8 )= 156*v^2-156*u*v+156*u^2
            coeff(lb, t, 8 )= 156*u^5*v^5
            wdiff= q^8*w^8*(156*w^4-156*q^2*w^2+156*q^4)-156*q^10*w^10
            polynomial: 156*s^12-312*s^10+156*s^8
            factors= 156*(s-1)^2*s^8*(s+1)^2
            number of roots >0: 2
            poly(2)= 359424
            (%o23) done
            (%i24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

            it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
            (%o24) "finally we proof that the lowerbbound polynomial has no positive root and that

            it is greater than 0 for t=1. Therefor it is greater or equal than 0 for all admissible values"
            (%i25) poly:ratcoef(lowerbound,u^5*v^5)
            (%o25) 156*t^8+531*t^7+2*t^6-632*t^5-152*t^4+867*t^3+834*t^2+299*t+40
            (%i26) ev(poly,t = 1)
            (%o26) 1945
            (%i27) nroots(poly,0,inf)
            (%o27) 0
            (%i28)


            Here we list the coefficient functions so we can compare them to @MichaelRozenbergs function to see they are the same.



            $$begin{array}{r} tag{1}
            left(25,u^3,v^7-40,u^4,v^6+40,u^6,v^4+40,u^7,v^3right),x^0 \
            left(75,u^2,v^7-25,u^3,v^6-240,u^4,v^5+240,u^5,v^4+376,u^
            6,v^3+120,u^7,v^2right),x^1 \
            left(75,u,v^7+165,u^2,v^6-675,u^3,v^5+1416,u^5,v^3+888,u^
            6,v^2+120,u^7,vright),x^2 \
            left(65,v^7+181,u,v^6-585,u^2,v^5-1286,u^3,v^4+2079,u^4,v
            ^3+2808,u^5,v^2+768,u^6,v+65,u^7right),x^3 \
            left(351,v^6-489,u,v^5-2058,u^2,v^4+546,u^3,v^3+4437,u^4,
            v^2+2088,u^5,v+351,u^6right),x^4 \
            left(741,v^5-2178,u,v^4-1476,u^2,v^3+3504,u^3,v^2+2997,u^4
            ,v+741,u^5right),x^5 \
            left(754,v^4-2698,u,v^3+1170,u^2,v^2+2412,u^3,v+754,u^4
            right),x^6 \
            left(390,v^3-1056,u,v^2+1134,u^2,v+390,u^3right),x^7 \
            left(156,v^2-156,u,v+156,u^2right),x^8
            end{array}$$



            To proof that this function is larger than
            $$left(156,t^8+531,t^7+2,t^6-632,t^5-152,t^4+867,t^3+834,t^2+
            299,t+40right),u^5,v^5 tag{2}$$
            Rozenbergs's lower bound when we substitute $x$ by $tsqrt(uv)$ we show that each coefficient of the polynomial $(1)$ is larger than the corresponding coefficient of the lower bound polynomial $(2)$.
            Then we show that the polynomial $(2)$ is larger than $0$ for all nonnegative $u$, $v$ and $t$. Details can be found in the Maxima script.



            Instead of the Maxima nroots function, which is based on Sturm sequences, one could solve the equations by some numeric functions to see if there are zeros greater than zeros, e.g. calculating the roots of poly for k=7 gives the following:




            (%i29) allroots(390*s^13+1134*s^11-531*s^10-1056*s^9+390*s^7 ,s);
            (%o29) [s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,s = 0.0,
            s = 0.007444635413686057*%i+0.7516683014652126,
            s = 0.7516683014652126-0.007444635413686057*%i,
            s = 0.3202741285237583*%i-0.6047586795035632,
            s = (-0.3202741285237583*%i)-0.6047586795035632,
            s = 1.93839678615644*%i-0.1469096219616494,
            s = (-1.93839678615644*%i)-0.1469096219616494]


            So we can also conclude are no real roots greater than 0. But this method is not really acceptable if one does not analyze the impact of the rounding errors. And this can be very complicated. The nroots function works with integers (for integer polynomials) and so there are no rounding errors.







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                (I consider it pertinent to add this answer to this challenging problem because the answer given here is different and simpler than the others given).



                Lemma.-For every pair of positive $x,y$ it is verified that
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}$$
                Proof.- It is an easy algebraic operation leading to $$(x^3-y^3)(x^2-y^2)ge0$$
                $$*******$$
                Now, let $x,y,z$ be three arbitrary positive numbers. We have
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}\frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+z}{13}\frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}gefrac{y+z}{13}$$ It follows that the sum
                $$left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}right)+left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}right)$$ is greater or equal than
                $$frac{2(x+y+z)}{13}$$
                These two expressions in parentheses can not be both smaller than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ because their sum is greater than or equal to the double of this quantity. Thus one of them, say the first, satisfies
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y+z}{13}$$
                Now the function $f:mathbb R^3_+rightarrow mathbb R_+$ defined by $f(x,y,z)=LHS$ is clearly continuous (it is even differentiable).



                Choosing $(x,y,z)$ such that $0lt||(x,y,z)-(x,z,y)||to 0$ in $mathbb R^3_+$ we have that $|f(x,y,z)-f(x,z,y)|to 0$ in $mathbb R_+$. This ensures that if $f(x,y,z)gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ then this is so for $f(x,z,y)$ when $(x,z,y)$ is near enough of $(x,y,z)$. This ends the proof because from this we can deduce that one of the two expressions in parentheses above cannot be less to $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ if the other is greater or equal than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ (which has been proved above).






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                  By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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                  Aug 26 '18 at 1:47


















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                (I consider it pertinent to add this answer to this challenging problem because the answer given here is different and simpler than the others given).



                Lemma.-For every pair of positive $x,y$ it is verified that
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}$$
                Proof.- It is an easy algebraic operation leading to $$(x^3-y^3)(x^2-y^2)ge0$$
                $$*******$$
                Now, let $x,y,z$ be three arbitrary positive numbers. We have
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}\frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+z}{13}\frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}gefrac{y+z}{13}$$ It follows that the sum
                $$left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}right)+left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}right)$$ is greater or equal than
                $$frac{2(x+y+z)}{13}$$
                These two expressions in parentheses can not be both smaller than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ because their sum is greater than or equal to the double of this quantity. Thus one of them, say the first, satisfies
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y+z}{13}$$
                Now the function $f:mathbb R^3_+rightarrow mathbb R_+$ defined by $f(x,y,z)=LHS$ is clearly continuous (it is even differentiable).



                Choosing $(x,y,z)$ such that $0lt||(x,y,z)-(x,z,y)||to 0$ in $mathbb R^3_+$ we have that $|f(x,y,z)-f(x,z,y)|to 0$ in $mathbb R_+$. This ensures that if $f(x,y,z)gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ then this is so for $f(x,z,y)$ when $(x,z,y)$ is near enough of $(x,y,z)$. This ends the proof because from this we can deduce that one of the two expressions in parentheses above cannot be less to $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ if the other is greater or equal than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ (which has been proved above).






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                  By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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                  Aug 26 '18 at 1:47
















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                (I consider it pertinent to add this answer to this challenging problem because the answer given here is different and simpler than the others given).



                Lemma.-For every pair of positive $x,y$ it is verified that
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}$$
                Proof.- It is an easy algebraic operation leading to $$(x^3-y^3)(x^2-y^2)ge0$$
                $$*******$$
                Now, let $x,y,z$ be three arbitrary positive numbers. We have
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}\frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+z}{13}\frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}gefrac{y+z}{13}$$ It follows that the sum
                $$left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}right)+left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}right)$$ is greater or equal than
                $$frac{2(x+y+z)}{13}$$
                These two expressions in parentheses can not be both smaller than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ because their sum is greater than or equal to the double of this quantity. Thus one of them, say the first, satisfies
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y+z}{13}$$
                Now the function $f:mathbb R^3_+rightarrow mathbb R_+$ defined by $f(x,y,z)=LHS$ is clearly continuous (it is even differentiable).



                Choosing $(x,y,z)$ such that $0lt||(x,y,z)-(x,z,y)||to 0$ in $mathbb R^3_+$ we have that $|f(x,y,z)-f(x,z,y)|to 0$ in $mathbb R_+$. This ensures that if $f(x,y,z)gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ then this is so for $f(x,z,y)$ when $(x,z,y)$ is near enough of $(x,y,z)$. This ends the proof because from this we can deduce that one of the two expressions in parentheses above cannot be less to $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ if the other is greater or equal than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ (which has been proved above).






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                (I consider it pertinent to add this answer to this challenging problem because the answer given here is different and simpler than the others given).



                Lemma.-For every pair of positive $x,y$ it is verified that
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}$$
                Proof.- It is an easy algebraic operation leading to $$(x^3-y^3)(x^2-y^2)ge0$$
                $$*******$$
                Now, let $x,y,z$ be three arbitrary positive numbers. We have
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y}{13}\frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+z}{13}\frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}gefrac{y+z}{13}$$ It follows that the sum
                $$left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}right)+left(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5x^3}right)$$ is greater or equal than
                $$frac{2(x+y+z)}{13}$$
                These two expressions in parentheses can not be both smaller than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ because their sum is greater than or equal to the double of this quantity. Thus one of them, say the first, satisfies
                $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}gefrac{x+y+z}{13}$$
                Now the function $f:mathbb R^3_+rightarrow mathbb R_+$ defined by $f(x,y,z)=LHS$ is clearly continuous (it is even differentiable).



                Choosing $(x,y,z)$ such that $0lt||(x,y,z)-(x,z,y)||to 0$ in $mathbb R^3_+$ we have that $|f(x,y,z)-f(x,z,y)|to 0$ in $mathbb R_+$. This ensures that if $f(x,y,z)gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ then this is so for $f(x,z,y)$ when $(x,z,y)$ is near enough of $(x,y,z)$. This ends the proof because from this we can deduce that one of the two expressions in parentheses above cannot be less to $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ if the other is greater or equal than $dfrac{x+y+z}{13}$ (which has been proved above).







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                  By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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                  – Michael Rozenberg
                  Aug 26 '18 at 1:47




















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                  By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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                  – Michael Rozenberg
                  Aug 26 '18 at 1:47


















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                By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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                – Michael Rozenberg
                Aug 26 '18 at 1:47






                $begingroup$
                By your method I proved that $x^3y^2+y^3z^2+y^3z^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ for positives $x$, $y$ and $z$. Indeed, after summing last inequality with $x^3z^2+y^3x^2+z^3y^2geq(x^2+y^2+z^2)xyz$ we obtain $sumlimits_{cyc}(x^3y^2+y^3z^2)geq2sumlimits_{cyc}x^3yz,$ which is obvious by Muirhead. But first inequality is wrong. Try $x=7$, $y=1$ and $z=2$. If your reasoning is true we got a contradiction in Math.
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                Aug 26 '18 at 1:47













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                I write a start for a full answer (this is an idea that @Starfall first proposed in comment). If someone wants to use it to end the proof, she/he is welcome!



                Let
                $$f(x,y,z):=frac{x^4}{ax^3+by^3}+frac{y^4}{ay^3+bz^3}+frac{z^4}{az^3+bx^3}.$$
                Since $f$ is homogeneous of degree 1, it is sufficient to consider $x,y,z$ on the plane $P:={x+y+z=1}$. Let
                $$g(x,y,z):=x+y+z-1$$
                be the constraint function. We compute :
                $$mathrm{d}f(x,y,z)=left(frac{ax^6+4bx^3y^3}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}-frac{3bx^2z^4}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}x+left(frac{ay^6+4by^3z^3}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}-frac{3bx^4y^2}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}y$$
                $$+left(frac{az^6+4bx^3z^3}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}-frac{3by^4z^2}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}z,$$
                $$mathrm{d}g(x,y,z)=mathrm{d}x+mathrm{d}y+mathrm{d}z.$$
                Define the $2times 3$ matrix
                $$M:=begin{pmatrix}
                frac{partial f}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial z}(x,y,z)\
                frac{partial g}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial z}(x,y,z)
                end{pmatrix}.$$
                By Lagrange multipliers theorem, all the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ must vanish at a local minimum $(x,y,z)$ of $f$ on $P$.



                Setting
                $$A:=ax^3+by^3,quad B:=az^3+bx^3,quad ay^3+bz^3,$$
                cancelling the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ yields :
                begin{align}
                begin{cases}
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3+3bx^4y^2)-3A^2C^2bx^2z^4-A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3)&=0\
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3)-A^2C^2(3bx^2z^4+az^6+4bx^3z^3)+3A^2B^2by^4z^2&=0\
                A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3+3by^4z^2)-3B^2C^2bx^4y^2-A^2C^2(az^6+4bx^3z^3)&=0\
                x+y+z=1, x,y,z>0
                end{cases}.
                end{align}
                Labelling the lines $(1)$, $(2)$, $(3)$ and $(4)$, we can see that $(1)-(2)=-(3)$, so that we can forget one of the three first lines.



                Here we need to do some (boring) algebra, using the constraints of the fourth line above and maybe some tricks like writing $ax^3=A-by^3$ and $bx^4=(1-y-z)(B-az^3)$. But I am too busy now to try this, and I don't know if I would try later...






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                  Thank you very much for using Lagrange Multiplier ! One up vote from me :)
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                  May 24 '16 at 6:06






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                  @HN_NH Thank you! Unfortunately, using the Lagrange multipliers theorem just yields a horrible system of algebraic equations. You should be able to solve it with a quite powerful program.
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                  – Nicolas
                  May 24 '16 at 9:07
















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                I write a start for a full answer (this is an idea that @Starfall first proposed in comment). If someone wants to use it to end the proof, she/he is welcome!



                Let
                $$f(x,y,z):=frac{x^4}{ax^3+by^3}+frac{y^4}{ay^3+bz^3}+frac{z^4}{az^3+bx^3}.$$
                Since $f$ is homogeneous of degree 1, it is sufficient to consider $x,y,z$ on the plane $P:={x+y+z=1}$. Let
                $$g(x,y,z):=x+y+z-1$$
                be the constraint function. We compute :
                $$mathrm{d}f(x,y,z)=left(frac{ax^6+4bx^3y^3}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}-frac{3bx^2z^4}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}x+left(frac{ay^6+4by^3z^3}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}-frac{3bx^4y^2}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}y$$
                $$+left(frac{az^6+4bx^3z^3}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}-frac{3by^4z^2}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}z,$$
                $$mathrm{d}g(x,y,z)=mathrm{d}x+mathrm{d}y+mathrm{d}z.$$
                Define the $2times 3$ matrix
                $$M:=begin{pmatrix}
                frac{partial f}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial z}(x,y,z)\
                frac{partial g}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial z}(x,y,z)
                end{pmatrix}.$$
                By Lagrange multipliers theorem, all the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ must vanish at a local minimum $(x,y,z)$ of $f$ on $P$.



                Setting
                $$A:=ax^3+by^3,quad B:=az^3+bx^3,quad ay^3+bz^3,$$
                cancelling the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ yields :
                begin{align}
                begin{cases}
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3+3bx^4y^2)-3A^2C^2bx^2z^4-A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3)&=0\
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3)-A^2C^2(3bx^2z^4+az^6+4bx^3z^3)+3A^2B^2by^4z^2&=0\
                A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3+3by^4z^2)-3B^2C^2bx^4y^2-A^2C^2(az^6+4bx^3z^3)&=0\
                x+y+z=1, x,y,z>0
                end{cases}.
                end{align}
                Labelling the lines $(1)$, $(2)$, $(3)$ and $(4)$, we can see that $(1)-(2)=-(3)$, so that we can forget one of the three first lines.



                Here we need to do some (boring) algebra, using the constraints of the fourth line above and maybe some tricks like writing $ax^3=A-by^3$ and $bx^4=(1-y-z)(B-az^3)$. But I am too busy now to try this, and I don't know if I would try later...






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                  Thank you very much for using Lagrange Multiplier ! One up vote from me :)
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                  – HN_NH
                  May 24 '16 at 6:06






                • 1




                  $begingroup$
                  @HN_NH Thank you! Unfortunately, using the Lagrange multipliers theorem just yields a horrible system of algebraic equations. You should be able to solve it with a quite powerful program.
                  $endgroup$
                  – Nicolas
                  May 24 '16 at 9:07














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                I write a start for a full answer (this is an idea that @Starfall first proposed in comment). If someone wants to use it to end the proof, she/he is welcome!



                Let
                $$f(x,y,z):=frac{x^4}{ax^3+by^3}+frac{y^4}{ay^3+bz^3}+frac{z^4}{az^3+bx^3}.$$
                Since $f$ is homogeneous of degree 1, it is sufficient to consider $x,y,z$ on the plane $P:={x+y+z=1}$. Let
                $$g(x,y,z):=x+y+z-1$$
                be the constraint function. We compute :
                $$mathrm{d}f(x,y,z)=left(frac{ax^6+4bx^3y^3}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}-frac{3bx^2z^4}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}x+left(frac{ay^6+4by^3z^3}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}-frac{3bx^4y^2}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}y$$
                $$+left(frac{az^6+4bx^3z^3}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}-frac{3by^4z^2}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}z,$$
                $$mathrm{d}g(x,y,z)=mathrm{d}x+mathrm{d}y+mathrm{d}z.$$
                Define the $2times 3$ matrix
                $$M:=begin{pmatrix}
                frac{partial f}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial z}(x,y,z)\
                frac{partial g}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial z}(x,y,z)
                end{pmatrix}.$$
                By Lagrange multipliers theorem, all the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ must vanish at a local minimum $(x,y,z)$ of $f$ on $P$.



                Setting
                $$A:=ax^3+by^3,quad B:=az^3+bx^3,quad ay^3+bz^3,$$
                cancelling the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ yields :
                begin{align}
                begin{cases}
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3+3bx^4y^2)-3A^2C^2bx^2z^4-A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3)&=0\
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3)-A^2C^2(3bx^2z^4+az^6+4bx^3z^3)+3A^2B^2by^4z^2&=0\
                A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3+3by^4z^2)-3B^2C^2bx^4y^2-A^2C^2(az^6+4bx^3z^3)&=0\
                x+y+z=1, x,y,z>0
                end{cases}.
                end{align}
                Labelling the lines $(1)$, $(2)$, $(3)$ and $(4)$, we can see that $(1)-(2)=-(3)$, so that we can forget one of the three first lines.



                Here we need to do some (boring) algebra, using the constraints of the fourth line above and maybe some tricks like writing $ax^3=A-by^3$ and $bx^4=(1-y-z)(B-az^3)$. But I am too busy now to try this, and I don't know if I would try later...






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                I write a start for a full answer (this is an idea that @Starfall first proposed in comment). If someone wants to use it to end the proof, she/he is welcome!



                Let
                $$f(x,y,z):=frac{x^4}{ax^3+by^3}+frac{y^4}{ay^3+bz^3}+frac{z^4}{az^3+bx^3}.$$
                Since $f$ is homogeneous of degree 1, it is sufficient to consider $x,y,z$ on the plane $P:={x+y+z=1}$. Let
                $$g(x,y,z):=x+y+z-1$$
                be the constraint function. We compute :
                $$mathrm{d}f(x,y,z)=left(frac{ax^6+4bx^3y^3}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}-frac{3bx^2z^4}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}x+left(frac{ay^6+4by^3z^3}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}-frac{3bx^4y^2}{(ax^3+by^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}y$$
                $$+left(frac{az^6+4bx^3z^3}{(az^3+bx^3)^2}-frac{3by^4z^2}{(ay^3+bz^3)^2}right)mathrm{d}z,$$
                $$mathrm{d}g(x,y,z)=mathrm{d}x+mathrm{d}y+mathrm{d}z.$$
                Define the $2times 3$ matrix
                $$M:=begin{pmatrix}
                frac{partial f}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial f}{partial z}(x,y,z)\
                frac{partial g}{partial x}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial y}(x,y,z) & frac{partial g}{partial z}(x,y,z)
                end{pmatrix}.$$
                By Lagrange multipliers theorem, all the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ must vanish at a local minimum $(x,y,z)$ of $f$ on $P$.



                Setting
                $$A:=ax^3+by^3,quad B:=az^3+bx^3,quad ay^3+bz^3,$$
                cancelling the 3 sub-determinants of $M$ yields :
                begin{align}
                begin{cases}
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3+3bx^4y^2)-3A^2C^2bx^2z^4-A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3)&=0\
                B^2C^2(ax^6+4bx^3y^3)-A^2C^2(3bx^2z^4+az^6+4bx^3z^3)+3A^2B^2by^4z^2&=0\
                A^2B^2(ay^6+4by^3z^3+3by^4z^2)-3B^2C^2bx^4y^2-A^2C^2(az^6+4bx^3z^3)&=0\
                x+y+z=1, x,y,z>0
                end{cases}.
                end{align}
                Labelling the lines $(1)$, $(2)$, $(3)$ and $(4)$, we can see that $(1)-(2)=-(3)$, so that we can forget one of the three first lines.



                Here we need to do some (boring) algebra, using the constraints of the fourth line above and maybe some tricks like writing $ax^3=A-by^3$ and $bx^4=(1-y-z)(B-az^3)$. But I am too busy now to try this, and I don't know if I would try later...







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                May 24 '16 at 9:07




                $begingroup$
                @HN_NH Thank you! Unfortunately, using the Lagrange multipliers theorem just yields a horrible system of algebraic equations. You should be able to solve it with a quite powerful program.
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                At the beginning we transform the original inequality:
                $$dfrac{8x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{8y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{8z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$x-dfrac{5xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+y-dfrac{5yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+z-dfrac{5zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}leq dfrac1{13}(x+y+z).qquad(1)$$
                Inequality $(1)$ is homogenius, and its decisions are determined up to an arbitrary common factor. We shall consider as the basic solution with
                $$x+y+z=1.$$
                It is easy to see that among the unknowns $x, y, z$ in $(1)$ only one can have zero limit.
                Let $zto 0,$ then inequality transforms to
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}leqdfrac1{13},quad x+y=1,$$
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y)geq 0.$$
                Note that
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y) = 13y^4-16y^3+24 y^2-24y+8 \= 4y(1-y)^3 + 17y^4-28 y^3+36y^2-28y+8 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4 + 10y^4-6y^2+1 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4+(3y^2-1)^2+y^4 geq 0,$$
                so the inequality is proved for this case .



                For the case of
                $$xnot=0,quad ynot=0,quad znot=0$$
                we can use new method - of limiting transition.



                I am not sure in its correctness, but discussion can be useful.



                Let
                $$f(t)=dfrac{t^3}{8+5t^3},$$
                $$a = xfleft(dfrac{y}xright) + yfleft(dfrac{z}yright) + zfleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and find maximal possible value for $a.$



                Using Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, we have
                $$left(sqrt{x}cdotsqrt{x}fleft(dfrac{y}xright)+sqrt{y}cdotsqrt{y}fleft(dfrac{z}yright)+sqrt{z}cdotsqrt{z}fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right)^2 leq (x+y+z)left(xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright)right),$$
                or
                $$a^2 leq xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and similarly
                $$a^4 leq xf^4left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^4left(dfrac{z}yright) + zf^4left(dfrac{x}zright),dots$$
                $$a^{2^n} leq xf^{2^n}left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^{2^n}left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^{2^n}left(dfrac{x}zright)qquad(2)$$
                for any $ninmathbb N.$



                Let
                $f_m = maxleft{fleft(dfrac{y}xright), fleft(dfrac{z}yright), fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right},$
                then $(2)$ is equivalent to
                $$left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} leq xleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{y}xright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + yleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{z}yright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + zleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{x}zright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n}.qquad(3)$$



                Inequality $(3)$ can be equality only if
                $$lim_{ntoinfty}left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} = lim_{ntoinfty}RHS.$$
                If
                $$fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),quad fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),quad fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)$$
                and for definiteness
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                then for $a,x,y,z>0$ the system of conditions becomes inconsistent:
                $$a=f_m,quad x=1,quad z=0.$$
                If
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),$$
                one of the unknowns becomes zero, which reduces the problem to the case of the edges of area.



                So remains the case of
                $$f_m = fleft(dfrac{y}xright) = fleft(dfrac{z}yright) = fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                $$dfrac{y^3}{8x^3+5y^3}=dfrac{z^3}{8y^3+5z^3}=dfrac{x^3}{8z^3+5x^3},$$
                or
                $$5+8frac{x^3}{y^3} = 5+8frac{y^3}{z^3} = 5+8frac{z^3}{x^3},$$
                $$dfrac xy = dfrac yz = dfrac zx, quad dfrac{y}xcdotdfrac{z}ycdotdfrac{x}z = 1, $$
                $$x=y=z,$$
                $$aleq f(1) = dfrac1{13},$$



                $$boxed{dfrac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac{x+y+z}{13}}.$$






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                  Dear @Yuri Negometyanov I don't see a connection between your paper and starting inequality. I am sorry.
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                  @MichaelRozenberg More detail, please
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                $begingroup$

                At the beginning we transform the original inequality:
                $$dfrac{8x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{8y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{8z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$x-dfrac{5xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+y-dfrac{5yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+z-dfrac{5zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}leq dfrac1{13}(x+y+z).qquad(1)$$
                Inequality $(1)$ is homogenius, and its decisions are determined up to an arbitrary common factor. We shall consider as the basic solution with
                $$x+y+z=1.$$
                It is easy to see that among the unknowns $x, y, z$ in $(1)$ only one can have zero limit.
                Let $zto 0,$ then inequality transforms to
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}leqdfrac1{13},quad x+y=1,$$
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y)geq 0.$$
                Note that
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y) = 13y^4-16y^3+24 y^2-24y+8 \= 4y(1-y)^3 + 17y^4-28 y^3+36y^2-28y+8 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4 + 10y^4-6y^2+1 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4+(3y^2-1)^2+y^4 geq 0,$$
                so the inequality is proved for this case .



                For the case of
                $$xnot=0,quad ynot=0,quad znot=0$$
                we can use new method - of limiting transition.



                I am not sure in its correctness, but discussion can be useful.



                Let
                $$f(t)=dfrac{t^3}{8+5t^3},$$
                $$a = xfleft(dfrac{y}xright) + yfleft(dfrac{z}yright) + zfleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and find maximal possible value for $a.$



                Using Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, we have
                $$left(sqrt{x}cdotsqrt{x}fleft(dfrac{y}xright)+sqrt{y}cdotsqrt{y}fleft(dfrac{z}yright)+sqrt{z}cdotsqrt{z}fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right)^2 leq (x+y+z)left(xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright)right),$$
                or
                $$a^2 leq xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and similarly
                $$a^4 leq xf^4left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^4left(dfrac{z}yright) + zf^4left(dfrac{x}zright),dots$$
                $$a^{2^n} leq xf^{2^n}left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^{2^n}left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^{2^n}left(dfrac{x}zright)qquad(2)$$
                for any $ninmathbb N.$



                Let
                $f_m = maxleft{fleft(dfrac{y}xright), fleft(dfrac{z}yright), fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right},$
                then $(2)$ is equivalent to
                $$left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} leq xleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{y}xright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + yleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{z}yright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + zleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{x}zright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n}.qquad(3)$$



                Inequality $(3)$ can be equality only if
                $$lim_{ntoinfty}left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} = lim_{ntoinfty}RHS.$$
                If
                $$fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),quad fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),quad fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)$$
                and for definiteness
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                then for $a,x,y,z>0$ the system of conditions becomes inconsistent:
                $$a=f_m,quad x=1,quad z=0.$$
                If
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),$$
                one of the unknowns becomes zero, which reduces the problem to the case of the edges of area.



                So remains the case of
                $$f_m = fleft(dfrac{y}xright) = fleft(dfrac{z}yright) = fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                $$dfrac{y^3}{8x^3+5y^3}=dfrac{z^3}{8y^3+5z^3}=dfrac{x^3}{8z^3+5x^3},$$
                or
                $$5+8frac{x^3}{y^3} = 5+8frac{y^3}{z^3} = 5+8frac{z^3}{x^3},$$
                $$dfrac xy = dfrac yz = dfrac zx, quad dfrac{y}xcdotdfrac{z}ycdotdfrac{x}z = 1, $$
                $$x=y=z,$$
                $$aleq f(1) = dfrac1{13},$$



                $$boxed{dfrac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac{x+y+z}{13}}.$$






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                  Dear @Yuri Negometyanov I don't see a connection between your paper and starting inequality. I am sorry.
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                $begingroup$

                At the beginning we transform the original inequality:
                $$dfrac{8x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{8y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{8z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$x-dfrac{5xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+y-dfrac{5yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+z-dfrac{5zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}leq dfrac1{13}(x+y+z).qquad(1)$$
                Inequality $(1)$ is homogenius, and its decisions are determined up to an arbitrary common factor. We shall consider as the basic solution with
                $$x+y+z=1.$$
                It is easy to see that among the unknowns $x, y, z$ in $(1)$ only one can have zero limit.
                Let $zto 0,$ then inequality transforms to
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}leqdfrac1{13},quad x+y=1,$$
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y)geq 0.$$
                Note that
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y) = 13y^4-16y^3+24 y^2-24y+8 \= 4y(1-y)^3 + 17y^4-28 y^3+36y^2-28y+8 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4 + 10y^4-6y^2+1 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4+(3y^2-1)^2+y^4 geq 0,$$
                so the inequality is proved for this case .



                For the case of
                $$xnot=0,quad ynot=0,quad znot=0$$
                we can use new method - of limiting transition.



                I am not sure in its correctness, but discussion can be useful.



                Let
                $$f(t)=dfrac{t^3}{8+5t^3},$$
                $$a = xfleft(dfrac{y}xright) + yfleft(dfrac{z}yright) + zfleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and find maximal possible value for $a.$



                Using Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, we have
                $$left(sqrt{x}cdotsqrt{x}fleft(dfrac{y}xright)+sqrt{y}cdotsqrt{y}fleft(dfrac{z}yright)+sqrt{z}cdotsqrt{z}fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right)^2 leq (x+y+z)left(xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright)right),$$
                or
                $$a^2 leq xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and similarly
                $$a^4 leq xf^4left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^4left(dfrac{z}yright) + zf^4left(dfrac{x}zright),dots$$
                $$a^{2^n} leq xf^{2^n}left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^{2^n}left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^{2^n}left(dfrac{x}zright)qquad(2)$$
                for any $ninmathbb N.$



                Let
                $f_m = maxleft{fleft(dfrac{y}xright), fleft(dfrac{z}yright), fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right},$
                then $(2)$ is equivalent to
                $$left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} leq xleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{y}xright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + yleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{z}yright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + zleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{x}zright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n}.qquad(3)$$



                Inequality $(3)$ can be equality only if
                $$lim_{ntoinfty}left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} = lim_{ntoinfty}RHS.$$
                If
                $$fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),quad fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),quad fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)$$
                and for definiteness
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                then for $a,x,y,z>0$ the system of conditions becomes inconsistent:
                $$a=f_m,quad x=1,quad z=0.$$
                If
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),$$
                one of the unknowns becomes zero, which reduces the problem to the case of the edges of area.



                So remains the case of
                $$f_m = fleft(dfrac{y}xright) = fleft(dfrac{z}yright) = fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                $$dfrac{y^3}{8x^3+5y^3}=dfrac{z^3}{8y^3+5z^3}=dfrac{x^3}{8z^3+5x^3},$$
                or
                $$5+8frac{x^3}{y^3} = 5+8frac{y^3}{z^3} = 5+8frac{z^3}{x^3},$$
                $$dfrac xy = dfrac yz = dfrac zx, quad dfrac{y}xcdotdfrac{z}ycdotdfrac{x}z = 1, $$
                $$x=y=z,$$
                $$aleq f(1) = dfrac1{13},$$



                $$boxed{dfrac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac{x+y+z}{13}}.$$






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                At the beginning we transform the original inequality:
                $$dfrac{8x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{8y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{8z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$x-dfrac{5xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+y-dfrac{5yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+z-dfrac{5zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac8{13}(x+y+z),$$
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{yz^3}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{zx^3}{8z^3+5x^3}leq dfrac1{13}(x+y+z).qquad(1)$$
                Inequality $(1)$ is homogenius, and its decisions are determined up to an arbitrary common factor. We shall consider as the basic solution with
                $$x+y+z=1.$$
                It is easy to see that among the unknowns $x, y, z$ in $(1)$ only one can have zero limit.
                Let $zto 0,$ then inequality transforms to
                $$dfrac{xy^3}{8x^3+5y^3}leqdfrac1{13},quad x+y=1,$$
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y)geq 0.$$
                Note that
                $$5y^3+8(1-y)^3-13y^3(1-y) = 13y^4-16y^3+24 y^2-24y+8 \= 4y(1-y)^3 + 17y^4-28 y^3+36y^2-28y+8 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4 + 10y^4-6y^2+1 = 4y(1-y)^3+7(1-y)^4+(3y^2-1)^2+y^4 geq 0,$$
                so the inequality is proved for this case .



                For the case of
                $$xnot=0,quad ynot=0,quad znot=0$$
                we can use new method - of limiting transition.



                I am not sure in its correctness, but discussion can be useful.



                Let
                $$f(t)=dfrac{t^3}{8+5t^3},$$
                $$a = xfleft(dfrac{y}xright) + yfleft(dfrac{z}yright) + zfleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and find maximal possible value for $a.$



                Using Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, we have
                $$left(sqrt{x}cdotsqrt{x}fleft(dfrac{y}xright)+sqrt{y}cdotsqrt{y}fleft(dfrac{z}yright)+sqrt{z}cdotsqrt{z}fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right)^2 leq (x+y+z)left(xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright)right),$$
                or
                $$a^2 leq xf^2left(dfrac{y}xright)+yf^2left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^2left(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                and similarly
                $$a^4 leq xf^4left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^4left(dfrac{z}yright) + zf^4left(dfrac{x}zright),dots$$
                $$a^{2^n} leq xf^{2^n}left(dfrac{y}xright) + yf^{2^n}left(dfrac{z}yright)+zf^{2^n}left(dfrac{x}zright)qquad(2)$$
                for any $ninmathbb N.$



                Let
                $f_m = maxleft{fleft(dfrac{y}xright), fleft(dfrac{z}yright), fleft(dfrac{x}zright)right},$
                then $(2)$ is equivalent to
                $$left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} leq xleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{y}xright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + yleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{z}yright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n} + zleft(dfrac{fleft(dfrac{x}zright)}{f_m}right)^{2^n}.qquad(3)$$



                Inequality $(3)$ can be equality only if
                $$lim_{ntoinfty}left(dfrac{a}{f_m}right)^{2^n} = lim_{ntoinfty}RHS.$$
                If
                $$fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),quad fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),quad fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)$$
                and for definiteness
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                then for $a,x,y,z>0$ the system of conditions becomes inconsistent:
                $$a=f_m,quad x=1,quad z=0.$$
                If
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)not=fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{z}yright)=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)not=fleft(dfrac{y}xright),$$
                or
                $$f_m=fleft(dfrac{x}zright)=fleft(dfrac{y}xright)not=fleft(dfrac{z}yright),$$
                one of the unknowns becomes zero, which reduces the problem to the case of the edges of area.



                So remains the case of
                $$f_m = fleft(dfrac{y}xright) = fleft(dfrac{z}yright) = fleft(dfrac{x}zright),$$
                $$dfrac{y^3}{8x^3+5y^3}=dfrac{z^3}{8y^3+5z^3}=dfrac{x^3}{8z^3+5x^3},$$
                or
                $$5+8frac{x^3}{y^3} = 5+8frac{y^3}{z^3} = 5+8frac{z^3}{x^3},$$
                $$dfrac xy = dfrac yz = dfrac zx, quad dfrac{y}xcdotdfrac{z}ycdotdfrac{x}z = 1, $$
                $$x=y=z,$$
                $$aleq f(1) = dfrac1{13},$$



                $$boxed{dfrac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+dfrac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+dfrac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}geq dfrac{x+y+z}{13}}.$$







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                answered Jul 24 '16 at 19:50









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                  Dear @Yuri Negometyanov I don't see a connection between your paper and starting inequality. I am sorry.
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                  @MichaelRozenberg More detail, please
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                  Dear @Yuri Negometyanov I don't see a connection between your paper and starting inequality. I am sorry.
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                  @MichaelRozenberg More detail, please
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                Dear @Yuri Negometyanov I don't see a connection between your paper and starting inequality. I am sorry.
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                – Michael Rozenberg
                Jun 22 '17 at 2:40






                $begingroup$
                Dear @Yuri Negometyanov I don't see a connection between your paper and starting inequality. I am sorry.
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                – Michael Rozenberg
                Jun 22 '17 at 2:40














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                @MichaelRozenberg More detail, please
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                – Yuri Negometyanov
                Jun 22 '17 at 6:24




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                @MichaelRozenberg More detail, please
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                Let's reform this inequality in a way such that we can comprehend it better. Define $a=dfrac{y}{x}$ and $b=dfrac{z}{y}$, therefore $dfrac{x}{z}={1over ab}$. We can suume without lose of generality that $a,ble1$ We need to prove that $$dfrac{x}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{y}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{z}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$by dividing the two sides of the inequality by $x$ and substituting $a,b,c$ we have that$$dfrac{1}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{y}{x}}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{z}{y}}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{1+dfrac{y}{x}+dfrac{z}{x}}{13}$$and $$dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}ge dfrac{1}{13}+dfrac{a}{13}+dfrac{ab}{13}$$which is equivalent to $$left(dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}-dfrac{1}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}-dfrac{a}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}-dfrac{ab}{13}right)ge 0$$by simplifying each of the components and multiplying both sides in $dfrac{13}{5}$ we obtain$$dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}ge0$$below is a depiction of $f(a,b)=dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}$ for $0le a,ble 1$



                enter image description here



                which proves the inequality graphically (I believe that Lagrange multipliers or any other method based on 1st order derivations may help but i hadn't much time to think on it hope you find an analytic way) but neither such a time i spent on the problem nor a computer is given us in the exam :) also i appreciate if any one updates his/her comment with such an analytical method. I'm really curious about that.....






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                  Let's reform this inequality in a way such that we can comprehend it better. Define $a=dfrac{y}{x}$ and $b=dfrac{z}{y}$, therefore $dfrac{x}{z}={1over ab}$. We can suume without lose of generality that $a,ble1$ We need to prove that $$dfrac{x}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{y}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{z}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$by dividing the two sides of the inequality by $x$ and substituting $a,b,c$ we have that$$dfrac{1}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{y}{x}}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{z}{y}}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{1+dfrac{y}{x}+dfrac{z}{x}}{13}$$and $$dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}ge dfrac{1}{13}+dfrac{a}{13}+dfrac{ab}{13}$$which is equivalent to $$left(dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}-dfrac{1}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}-dfrac{a}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}-dfrac{ab}{13}right)ge 0$$by simplifying each of the components and multiplying both sides in $dfrac{13}{5}$ we obtain$$dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}ge0$$below is a depiction of $f(a,b)=dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}$ for $0le a,ble 1$



                  enter image description here



                  which proves the inequality graphically (I believe that Lagrange multipliers or any other method based on 1st order derivations may help but i hadn't much time to think on it hope you find an analytic way) but neither such a time i spent on the problem nor a computer is given us in the exam :) also i appreciate if any one updates his/her comment with such an analytical method. I'm really curious about that.....






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                    Let's reform this inequality in a way such that we can comprehend it better. Define $a=dfrac{y}{x}$ and $b=dfrac{z}{y}$, therefore $dfrac{x}{z}={1over ab}$. We can suume without lose of generality that $a,ble1$ We need to prove that $$dfrac{x}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{y}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{z}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$by dividing the two sides of the inequality by $x$ and substituting $a,b,c$ we have that$$dfrac{1}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{y}{x}}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{z}{y}}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{1+dfrac{y}{x}+dfrac{z}{x}}{13}$$and $$dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}ge dfrac{1}{13}+dfrac{a}{13}+dfrac{ab}{13}$$which is equivalent to $$left(dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}-dfrac{1}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}-dfrac{a}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}-dfrac{ab}{13}right)ge 0$$by simplifying each of the components and multiplying both sides in $dfrac{13}{5}$ we obtain$$dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}ge0$$below is a depiction of $f(a,b)=dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}$ for $0le a,ble 1$



                    enter image description here



                    which proves the inequality graphically (I believe that Lagrange multipliers or any other method based on 1st order derivations may help but i hadn't much time to think on it hope you find an analytic way) but neither such a time i spent on the problem nor a computer is given us in the exam :) also i appreciate if any one updates his/her comment with such an analytical method. I'm really curious about that.....






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                    Let's reform this inequality in a way such that we can comprehend it better. Define $a=dfrac{y}{x}$ and $b=dfrac{z}{y}$, therefore $dfrac{x}{z}={1over ab}$. We can suume without lose of generality that $a,ble1$ We need to prove that $$dfrac{x}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{y}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{z}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{x+y+z}{13}$$by dividing the two sides of the inequality by $x$ and substituting $a,b,c$ we have that$$dfrac{1}{8+5left(dfrac{y}{x}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{y}{x}}{8+5left(dfrac{z}{y}right)^3}+dfrac{dfrac{z}{y}}{8+5left(dfrac{x}{z}right)^3}gedfrac{1+dfrac{y}{x}+dfrac{z}{x}}{13}$$and $$dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}ge dfrac{1}{13}+dfrac{a}{13}+dfrac{ab}{13}$$which is equivalent to $$left(dfrac{1}{8+5a^3}-dfrac{1}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a}{8+5b^3}-dfrac{a}{13}right)+left(dfrac{a^4b^4}{5+8a^3b^3}-dfrac{ab}{13}right)ge 0$$by simplifying each of the components and multiplying both sides in $dfrac{13}{5}$ we obtain$$dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}ge0$$below is a depiction of $f(a,b)=dfrac{1-a^3}{8+5a^3}+dfrac{a(1-b^3)}{8+5b^3}+dfrac{a^4b^4-ab}{5+8a^3b^3}$ for $0le a,ble 1$



                    enter image description here



                    which proves the inequality graphically (I believe that Lagrange multipliers or any other method based on 1st order derivations may help but i hadn't much time to think on it hope you find an analytic way) but neither such a time i spent on the problem nor a computer is given us in the exam :) also i appreciate if any one updates his/her comment with such an analytical method. I'm really curious about that.....







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                    answered Aug 26 '18 at 21:45









                    Mostafa AyazMostafa Ayaz

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                        Not sure, if I missed out anything here. Take a look.



                        For non negative, $X,Y,Z$,
                        We can perhaps use Titu's inequality (a mix of Holder and CS), sometimes called Titu's screw lemma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesbitt%27s_inequality).
                        begin{equation}
                        sum_{k=1}^{n}{frac{x_{k}^{2}}{a_{k}}} ge frac{left(sum_{k=1}^{n}{x_{k}}right)^{2}}{sum_{k=1}^{n}{a_{k}}}
                        end{equation}



                        With $nto3$ terms, $x_{1}to X^{2},x_{2} to Y^{2}, x_{3} to Z^{2}$ and $a_{1} to A, a_{2}to B, a_{3} to C$, we will have



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C} &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        With
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A &=& alpha X^{3} +beta Y^{3} \
                        B &=& alpha Y^{3} +beta Z^{3} \
                        C &=& alpha Z^{3} +beta X^{3}
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        where,
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A+B+C &=& (alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        begin{eqnarray}
                        frac{X^4}{A}+frac{Y^4}{B}+frac{Z^4}{C} &=&frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C}\
                        &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        &=& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &overset{(p)}{ge}& frac{left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3}right)left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &=& frac{left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta)}
                        end{eqnarray}



                        QED.



                        Here $(p)$ is from the fact that,



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        (X^2+Y^2+Z^2)^{2} -left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3} right) (X+Y+Z) &=& XY(X-Y)^{2}+YZ(Y-Z)^{2}+ZX(Z-X)^{2} \
                        &ge& 0
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        Here $alpha=8$ and $beta=5$.






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                          Looks neat to my eyes!
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                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 15:44










                        • $begingroup$
                          By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:22










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                          Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
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                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:35










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                          I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
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                          – Jose Brox
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:37












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                          Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
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                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 17:04
















                        0












                        $begingroup$

                        Not sure, if I missed out anything here. Take a look.



                        For non negative, $X,Y,Z$,
                        We can perhaps use Titu's inequality (a mix of Holder and CS), sometimes called Titu's screw lemma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesbitt%27s_inequality).
                        begin{equation}
                        sum_{k=1}^{n}{frac{x_{k}^{2}}{a_{k}}} ge frac{left(sum_{k=1}^{n}{x_{k}}right)^{2}}{sum_{k=1}^{n}{a_{k}}}
                        end{equation}



                        With $nto3$ terms, $x_{1}to X^{2},x_{2} to Y^{2}, x_{3} to Z^{2}$ and $a_{1} to A, a_{2}to B, a_{3} to C$, we will have



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C} &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        With
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A &=& alpha X^{3} +beta Y^{3} \
                        B &=& alpha Y^{3} +beta Z^{3} \
                        C &=& alpha Z^{3} +beta X^{3}
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        where,
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A+B+C &=& (alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        begin{eqnarray}
                        frac{X^4}{A}+frac{Y^4}{B}+frac{Z^4}{C} &=&frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C}\
                        &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        &=& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &overset{(p)}{ge}& frac{left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3}right)left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &=& frac{left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta)}
                        end{eqnarray}



                        QED.



                        Here $(p)$ is from the fact that,



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        (X^2+Y^2+Z^2)^{2} -left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3} right) (X+Y+Z) &=& XY(X-Y)^{2}+YZ(Y-Z)^{2}+ZX(Z-X)^{2} \
                        &ge& 0
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        Here $alpha=8$ and $beta=5$.






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                          $begingroup$
                          Looks neat to my eyes!
                          $endgroup$
                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 15:44










                        • $begingroup$
                          By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
                          $endgroup$
                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:22










                        • $begingroup$
                          Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:35










                        • $begingroup$
                          I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
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                          – Jose Brox
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:37












                        • $begingroup$
                          Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
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                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 17:04














                        0












                        0








                        0





                        $begingroup$

                        Not sure, if I missed out anything here. Take a look.



                        For non negative, $X,Y,Z$,
                        We can perhaps use Titu's inequality (a mix of Holder and CS), sometimes called Titu's screw lemma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesbitt%27s_inequality).
                        begin{equation}
                        sum_{k=1}^{n}{frac{x_{k}^{2}}{a_{k}}} ge frac{left(sum_{k=1}^{n}{x_{k}}right)^{2}}{sum_{k=1}^{n}{a_{k}}}
                        end{equation}



                        With $nto3$ terms, $x_{1}to X^{2},x_{2} to Y^{2}, x_{3} to Z^{2}$ and $a_{1} to A, a_{2}to B, a_{3} to C$, we will have



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C} &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        With
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A &=& alpha X^{3} +beta Y^{3} \
                        B &=& alpha Y^{3} +beta Z^{3} \
                        C &=& alpha Z^{3} +beta X^{3}
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        where,
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A+B+C &=& (alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        begin{eqnarray}
                        frac{X^4}{A}+frac{Y^4}{B}+frac{Z^4}{C} &=&frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C}\
                        &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        &=& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &overset{(p)}{ge}& frac{left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3}right)left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &=& frac{left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta)}
                        end{eqnarray}



                        QED.



                        Here $(p)$ is from the fact that,



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        (X^2+Y^2+Z^2)^{2} -left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3} right) (X+Y+Z) &=& XY(X-Y)^{2}+YZ(Y-Z)^{2}+ZX(Z-X)^{2} \
                        &ge& 0
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        Here $alpha=8$ and $beta=5$.






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                        Not sure, if I missed out anything here. Take a look.



                        For non negative, $X,Y,Z$,
                        We can perhaps use Titu's inequality (a mix of Holder and CS), sometimes called Titu's screw lemma (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesbitt%27s_inequality).
                        begin{equation}
                        sum_{k=1}^{n}{frac{x_{k}^{2}}{a_{k}}} ge frac{left(sum_{k=1}^{n}{x_{k}}right)^{2}}{sum_{k=1}^{n}{a_{k}}}
                        end{equation}



                        With $nto3$ terms, $x_{1}to X^{2},x_{2} to Y^{2}, x_{3} to Z^{2}$ and $a_{1} to A, a_{2}to B, a_{3} to C$, we will have



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C} &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        With
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A &=& alpha X^{3} +beta Y^{3} \
                        B &=& alpha Y^{3} +beta Z^{3} \
                        C &=& alpha Z^{3} +beta X^{3}
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        where,
                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        A+B+C &=& (alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        begin{eqnarray}
                        frac{X^4}{A}+frac{Y^4}{B}+frac{Z^4}{C} &=&frac{left(X^2right)^{2}}{A}+frac{left(Y^2right)^{2}}{B}+frac{left(Z^2right)^{2}}{C}\
                        &ge& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{A+B+C} \
                        &=& frac{left(X^{2}+Y^{2}+Z^{2}right)^{2}}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &overset{(p)}{ge}& frac{left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3}right)left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta) left(X^{3} + Y^3+Z^3 right)} \
                        &=& frac{left(X+Y+Zright)}{(alpha+beta)}
                        end{eqnarray}



                        QED.



                        Here $(p)$ is from the fact that,



                        begin{eqnarray*}
                        (X^2+Y^2+Z^2)^{2} -left(X^{3}+Y^{3}+Z^{3} right) (X+Y+Z) &=& XY(X-Y)^{2}+YZ(Y-Z)^{2}+ZX(Z-X)^{2} \
                        &ge& 0
                        end{eqnarray*}



                        Here $alpha=8$ and $beta=5$.







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                        • 1




                          $begingroup$
                          Looks neat to my eyes!
                          $endgroup$
                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 15:44










                        • $begingroup$
                          By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
                          $endgroup$
                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:22










                        • $begingroup$
                          Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:35










                        • $begingroup$
                          I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
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                          – Jose Brox
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:37












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                          Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
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                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 17:04














                        • 1




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                          Looks neat to my eyes!
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                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 15:44










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                          By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
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                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:22










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                          Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
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                          – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:35










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                          I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
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                          – Jose Brox
                          Aug 22 '18 at 16:37












                        • $begingroup$
                          Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
                          $endgroup$
                          – NivPai
                          Aug 22 '18 at 17:04








                        1




                        1




                        $begingroup$
                        Looks neat to my eyes!
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                        Aug 22 '18 at 15:44




                        $begingroup$
                        Looks neat to my eyes!
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                        Aug 22 '18 at 15:44












                        $begingroup$
                        By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
                        $endgroup$
                        – NivPai
                        Aug 22 '18 at 16:22




                        $begingroup$
                        By the way, I just used the name Titu (as it is known in the US IMO circle). I also hear names such as T2 Lemma, Engel's form, or Sedrakyan's inequality. It is indeed a special case of Cauchy-Schwarz.
                        $endgroup$
                        – NivPai
                        Aug 22 '18 at 16:22












                        $begingroup$
                        Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                        Aug 22 '18 at 16:35




                        $begingroup$
                        Yes, it is also known by the name Bergstrom’s inequality. There is also a slightly tighter generalization as well.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Rethna Pulikkoonattu
                        Aug 22 '18 at 16:35












                        $begingroup$
                        I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
                        $endgroup$
                        – Jose Brox
                        Aug 22 '18 at 16:37






                        $begingroup$
                        I think the identity for (p) is wrong: $(1^2+1^2+2^2)^2-(1^3+1^3+2^3)(1+1+2)=36-40=-4$. When you expand, you should get $2X^2Y^2-X^3Y-XY^3=-XY(X-Y)^2.$
                        $endgroup$
                        – Jose Brox
                        Aug 22 '18 at 16:37














                        $begingroup$
                        Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
                        $endgroup$
                        – NivPai
                        Aug 22 '18 at 17:04




                        $begingroup$
                        Thanks @Jose Brox. Yes, then there is a hole in my argument. We still have it open then:-)
                        $endgroup$
                        – NivPai
                        Aug 22 '18 at 17:04











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                        This is too long to fit into a comment. I wanted to ask a question about my proof on this problem. (It might help discover another proof)





                        This proof has a flaw -- From $AB ge C$ and $A ge D$, I wrongly implied that $DB ge C$.



                        Is there a way to slightly modify it such that it can prove the statement or is it completely wrong?





                        Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation
                        $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume
                        without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.



                        From Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality,



                        $$([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3})geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$$



                        Since (By AM-GM) $$[8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3] = 13(x^3+y^3+z^3) geqslant 13(3 sqrt[3]{(xyz)^3}) = 13(3)$$



                        Therefore



                        $([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (13)(3)(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$



                        Therefore



                        $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$$



                        Now it reamins to prove that $frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$, i.e.



                        $$(x^2+y^2+z^2)(x^2+y^2+z^2)geqslant 3(x+y+z)$$



                        which is straightforward by AM-GM:



                        Notice that for all $xyz=1$



                        $$(x - 1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z - 1)^2 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - 2a - 2b - 2c + 3 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + (x + y + z) + (x + y + z)$$



                        But by AM-GM, $x + y + z ge 3sqrt[3]{xyz} = 3$. So,
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + 3 + (x + y + z)$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge x + y + z ge 3$$






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                        • $begingroup$
                          Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
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                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 1:28










                        • $begingroup$
                          quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
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                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 26 '18 at 2:04










                        • $begingroup$
                          If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
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                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 6:35












                        • $begingroup$
                          OK I get it @MichaelRozenberg
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 28 '18 at 12:47


















                        0












                        $begingroup$

                        This is too long to fit into a comment. I wanted to ask a question about my proof on this problem. (It might help discover another proof)





                        This proof has a flaw -- From $AB ge C$ and $A ge D$, I wrongly implied that $DB ge C$.



                        Is there a way to slightly modify it such that it can prove the statement or is it completely wrong?





                        Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation
                        $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume
                        without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.



                        From Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality,



                        $$([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3})geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$$



                        Since (By AM-GM) $$[8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3] = 13(x^3+y^3+z^3) geqslant 13(3 sqrt[3]{(xyz)^3}) = 13(3)$$



                        Therefore



                        $([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (13)(3)(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$



                        Therefore



                        $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$$



                        Now it reamins to prove that $frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$, i.e.



                        $$(x^2+y^2+z^2)(x^2+y^2+z^2)geqslant 3(x+y+z)$$



                        which is straightforward by AM-GM:



                        Notice that for all $xyz=1$



                        $$(x - 1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z - 1)^2 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - 2a - 2b - 2c + 3 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + (x + y + z) + (x + y + z)$$



                        But by AM-GM, $x + y + z ge 3sqrt[3]{xyz} = 3$. So,
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + 3 + (x + y + z)$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge x + y + z ge 3$$






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                        • $begingroup$
                          Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
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                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 1:28










                        • $begingroup$
                          quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 26 '18 at 2:04










                        • $begingroup$
                          If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 6:35












                        • $begingroup$
                          OK I get it @MichaelRozenberg
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 28 '18 at 12:47
















                        0












                        0








                        0





                        $begingroup$

                        This is too long to fit into a comment. I wanted to ask a question about my proof on this problem. (It might help discover another proof)





                        This proof has a flaw -- From $AB ge C$ and $A ge D$, I wrongly implied that $DB ge C$.



                        Is there a way to slightly modify it such that it can prove the statement or is it completely wrong?





                        Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation
                        $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume
                        without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.



                        From Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality,



                        $$([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3})geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$$



                        Since (By AM-GM) $$[8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3] = 13(x^3+y^3+z^3) geqslant 13(3 sqrt[3]{(xyz)^3}) = 13(3)$$



                        Therefore



                        $([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (13)(3)(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$



                        Therefore



                        $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$$



                        Now it reamins to prove that $frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$, i.e.



                        $$(x^2+y^2+z^2)(x^2+y^2+z^2)geqslant 3(x+y+z)$$



                        which is straightforward by AM-GM:



                        Notice that for all $xyz=1$



                        $$(x - 1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z - 1)^2 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - 2a - 2b - 2c + 3 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + (x + y + z) + (x + y + z)$$



                        But by AM-GM, $x + y + z ge 3sqrt[3]{xyz} = 3$. So,
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + 3 + (x + y + z)$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge x + y + z ge 3$$






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                        This is too long to fit into a comment. I wanted to ask a question about my proof on this problem. (It might help discover another proof)





                        This proof has a flaw -- From $AB ge C$ and $A ge D$, I wrongly implied that $DB ge C$.



                        Is there a way to slightly modify it such that it can prove the statement or is it completely wrong?





                        Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation
                        $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume
                        without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.



                        From Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality,



                        $$([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3})geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$$



                        Since (By AM-GM) $$[8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3] = 13(x^3+y^3+z^3) geqslant 13(3 sqrt[3]{(xyz)^3}) = 13(3)$$



                        Therefore



                        $([8x^3+5y^3]+[8y^3+5z^3]+[8z^3+5x^3])(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (13)(3)(frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3}) geqslant (x^2+y^2+z^2)^2$



                        Therefore



                        $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}+frac{y^4}{8y^3+5z^3}+frac{z^4}{8z^3+5x^3} geqslant frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$$



                        Now it reamins to prove that $frac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)} geqslant frac{x+y+z}{13}$, i.e.



                        $$(x^2+y^2+z^2)(x^2+y^2+z^2)geqslant 3(x+y+z)$$



                        which is straightforward by AM-GM:



                        Notice that for all $xyz=1$



                        $$(x - 1)^2 + (y-1)^2 + (z - 1)^2 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - 2a - 2b - 2c + 3 ge 0$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + (x + y + z) + (x + y + z)$$



                        But by AM-GM, $x + y + z ge 3sqrt[3]{xyz} = 3$. So,
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge -3 + 3 + (x + y + z)$$
                        $$x^2 + y^2 + z^2 ge x + y + z ge 3$$







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                        answered Aug 24 '18 at 14:20









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                        • $begingroup$
                          Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
                          $endgroup$
                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 1:28










                        • $begingroup$
                          quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 26 '18 at 2:04










                        • $begingroup$
                          If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
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                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 6:35












                        • $begingroup$
                          OK I get it @MichaelRozenberg
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 28 '18 at 12:47




















                        • $begingroup$
                          Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
                          $endgroup$
                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 1:28










                        • $begingroup$
                          quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 26 '18 at 2:04










                        • $begingroup$
                          If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
                          $endgroup$
                          – Michael Rozenberg
                          Aug 26 '18 at 6:35












                        • $begingroup$
                          OK I get it @MichaelRozenberg
                          $endgroup$
                          – Vee Hua Zhi
                          Aug 28 '18 at 12:47


















                        $begingroup$
                        Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Aug 26 '18 at 1:28




                        $begingroup$
                        Your inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ it's $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{39xyz}$. I think the last inequality is wrong. Try $x=y=1$ and $z=frac{1}{2}.$
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Aug 26 '18 at 1:28












                        $begingroup$
                        quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Vee Hua Zhi
                        Aug 26 '18 at 2:04




                        $begingroup$
                        quoting from the first paragraph: Seeing that the inequality is homogeneous (meaning that the transformation $(x, y, z) mapsto (kx, ky, kz)$ does not change anything), it is natural to impose a constraint on it. So let us assume without the loss of generality that $xyz=1$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Vee Hua Zhi
                        Aug 26 '18 at 2:04












                        $begingroup$
                        If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Aug 26 '18 at 6:35






                        $begingroup$
                        If you understood it try to check my counterexample. I'll write again: The inequality $sumlimits_{cyc}frac{x^4}{8x^3+5y^3}geqfrac{(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2}{(13)(3)}$ is wrong. Try $x=4$ and $y=z=0.5$.
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                        – Michael Rozenberg
                        Aug 26 '18 at 6:35














                        $begingroup$
                        OK I get it @MichaelRozenberg
                        $endgroup$
                        – Vee Hua Zhi
                        Aug 28 '18 at 12:47






                        $begingroup$
                        OK I get it @MichaelRozenberg
                        $endgroup$
                        – Vee Hua Zhi
                        Aug 28 '18 at 12:47













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                        I have finally found a solution . In fact we start to study the 2 variables version of this inequality we have :




                        $$frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+frac{b^4}{8b^3+5a^3}geq frac{a+b}{13}$$




                        Proof:



                        We have with $x=frac{a}{b}$ :
                        $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5}+frac{1}{8+5x^3}geq frac{1+x}{13}$$
                        Or
                        $$frac{5}{13}(x - 1)^2 (x + 1) (x^2 + x + 1) (5 x^2 - 8 x + 5)geq 0$$



                        So we have (if we permute the variables $a,b,c$ and add the three inequalities ) :



                        $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{6.5}$$



                        If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                        We have :
                        $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                        But also
                        $$frac{(a-epsilon)^4}{8(a-epsilon)^3+5b^3}+frac{(b)^4}{8(b)^3+5(c+epsilon)^3}+frac{(c+epsilon)^4}{8(c+epsilon)^3+5(a-epsilon)^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                        If we put $ageq c $ and $epsilon=a-c$



                        We finally obtain :
                        $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$



                        If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}leqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                        The proof is the same as above .



                        So all the cases are present so it's proved !






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                          I have finally found a solution . In fact we start to study the 2 variables version of this inequality we have :




                          $$frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+frac{b^4}{8b^3+5a^3}geq frac{a+b}{13}$$




                          Proof:



                          We have with $x=frac{a}{b}$ :
                          $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5}+frac{1}{8+5x^3}geq frac{1+x}{13}$$
                          Or
                          $$frac{5}{13}(x - 1)^2 (x + 1) (x^2 + x + 1) (5 x^2 - 8 x + 5)geq 0$$



                          So we have (if we permute the variables $a,b,c$ and add the three inequalities ) :



                          $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{6.5}$$



                          If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                          We have :
                          $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                          But also
                          $$frac{(a-epsilon)^4}{8(a-epsilon)^3+5b^3}+frac{(b)^4}{8(b)^3+5(c+epsilon)^3}+frac{(c+epsilon)^4}{8(c+epsilon)^3+5(a-epsilon)^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                          If we put $ageq c $ and $epsilon=a-c$



                          We finally obtain :
                          $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$



                          If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}leqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                          The proof is the same as above .



                          So all the cases are present so it's proved !






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                            -1












                            -1








                            -1





                            $begingroup$

                            I have finally found a solution . In fact we start to study the 2 variables version of this inequality we have :




                            $$frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+frac{b^4}{8b^3+5a^3}geq frac{a+b}{13}$$




                            Proof:



                            We have with $x=frac{a}{b}$ :
                            $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5}+frac{1}{8+5x^3}geq frac{1+x}{13}$$
                            Or
                            $$frac{5}{13}(x - 1)^2 (x + 1) (x^2 + x + 1) (5 x^2 - 8 x + 5)geq 0$$



                            So we have (if we permute the variables $a,b,c$ and add the three inequalities ) :



                            $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{6.5}$$



                            If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                            We have :
                            $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                            But also
                            $$frac{(a-epsilon)^4}{8(a-epsilon)^3+5b^3}+frac{(b)^4}{8(b)^3+5(c+epsilon)^3}+frac{(c+epsilon)^4}{8(c+epsilon)^3+5(a-epsilon)^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                            If we put $ageq c $ and $epsilon=a-c$



                            We finally obtain :
                            $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$



                            If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}leqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                            The proof is the same as above .



                            So all the cases are present so it's proved !






                            share|cite|improve this answer









                            $endgroup$



                            I have finally found a solution . In fact we start to study the 2 variables version of this inequality we have :




                            $$frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+frac{b^4}{8b^3+5a^3}geq frac{a+b}{13}$$




                            Proof:



                            We have with $x=frac{a}{b}$ :
                            $$frac{x^4}{8x^3+5}+frac{1}{8+5x^3}geq frac{1+x}{13}$$
                            Or
                            $$frac{5}{13}(x - 1)^2 (x + 1) (x^2 + x + 1) (5 x^2 - 8 x + 5)geq 0$$



                            So we have (if we permute the variables $a,b,c$ and add the three inequalities ) :



                            $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}+sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{6.5}$$



                            If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                            We have :
                            $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                            But also
                            $$frac{(a-epsilon)^4}{8(a-epsilon)^3+5b^3}+frac{(b)^4}{8(b)^3+5(c+epsilon)^3}+frac{(c+epsilon)^4}{8(c+epsilon)^3+5(a-epsilon)^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$
                            If we put $ageq c $ and $epsilon=a-c$



                            We finally obtain :
                            $$sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}geq frac{a+b+c}{13}$$



                            If we have $sum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5b^3}leqsum_{cyc}frac{a^4}{8a^3+5c^3}$



                            The proof is the same as above .



                            So all the cases are present so it's proved !







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