Does bounded version of Lagrange's 4-square theorem follow from this result?












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Let $S_4(n)$ be the number of ways of representing $n$ as a sum of 4 integer squares and suppose I can give you a proof of the result that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) sim frac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.



Is this result enough to deduce that beyond some $N$, every integer can be represented as the sum of 4 squares (given that we are "weakly" suggesting that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) >> n$)?










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    It's not true that $S_4(n)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$. What is true is that $sum_{k=1}^nS_4(k)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.
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    Dec 15 '18 at 16:16










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    Ah yes, I meant that! Let me just update this.
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    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:12










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    @LordSharktheUnknown: Can you answer the question, though? I know from experience on this site that you're quite a capable individual...
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    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:13










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    You need more than that asymptotic.
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
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Let $S_4(n)$ be the number of ways of representing $n$ as a sum of 4 integer squares and suppose I can give you a proof of the result that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) sim frac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.



Is this result enough to deduce that beyond some $N$, every integer can be represented as the sum of 4 squares (given that we are "weakly" suggesting that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) >> n$)?










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    $begingroup$
    It's not true that $S_4(n)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$. What is true is that $sum_{k=1}^nS_4(k)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 15 '18 at 16:16










  • $begingroup$
    Ah yes, I meant that! Let me just update this.
    $endgroup$
    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:12










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown: Can you answer the question, though? I know from experience on this site that you're quite a capable individual...
    $endgroup$
    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:13










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    You need more than that asymptotic.
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 15 '18 at 19:13














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Let $S_4(n)$ be the number of ways of representing $n$ as a sum of 4 integer squares and suppose I can give you a proof of the result that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) sim frac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.



Is this result enough to deduce that beyond some $N$, every integer can be represented as the sum of 4 squares (given that we are "weakly" suggesting that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) >> n$)?










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Let $S_4(n)$ be the number of ways of representing $n$ as a sum of 4 integer squares and suppose I can give you a proof of the result that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) sim frac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.



Is this result enough to deduce that beyond some $N$, every integer can be represented as the sum of 4 squares (given that we are "weakly" suggesting that $sum_{i=1}^nS_4(i) >> n$)?







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    $begingroup$
    It's not true that $S_4(n)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$. What is true is that $sum_{k=1}^nS_4(k)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 15 '18 at 16:16










  • $begingroup$
    Ah yes, I meant that! Let me just update this.
    $endgroup$
    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:12










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown: Can you answer the question, though? I know from experience on this site that you're quite a capable individual...
    $endgroup$
    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:13










  • $begingroup$
    You need more than that asymptotic.
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 15 '18 at 19:13














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's not true that $S_4(n)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$. What is true is that $sum_{k=1}^nS_4(k)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 15 '18 at 16:16










  • $begingroup$
    Ah yes, I meant that! Let me just update this.
    $endgroup$
    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:12










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown: Can you answer the question, though? I know from experience on this site that you're quite a capable individual...
    $endgroup$
    – Isky Mathews
    Dec 15 '18 at 17:13










  • $begingroup$
    You need more than that asymptotic.
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Dec 15 '18 at 19:13








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$begingroup$
It's not true that $S_4(n)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$. What is true is that $sum_{k=1}^nS_4(k)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 15 '18 at 16:16




$begingroup$
It's not true that $S_4(n)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$. What is true is that $sum_{k=1}^nS_4(k)simfrac{pi^2}{2}n^2$.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 15 '18 at 16:16












$begingroup$
Ah yes, I meant that! Let me just update this.
$endgroup$
– Isky Mathews
Dec 15 '18 at 17:12




$begingroup$
Ah yes, I meant that! Let me just update this.
$endgroup$
– Isky Mathews
Dec 15 '18 at 17:12












$begingroup$
@LordSharktheUnknown: Can you answer the question, though? I know from experience on this site that you're quite a capable individual...
$endgroup$
– Isky Mathews
Dec 15 '18 at 17:13




$begingroup$
@LordSharktheUnknown: Can you answer the question, though? I know from experience on this site that you're quite a capable individual...
$endgroup$
– Isky Mathews
Dec 15 '18 at 17:13












$begingroup$
You need more than that asymptotic.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 15 '18 at 19:13




$begingroup$
You need more than that asymptotic.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Dec 15 '18 at 19:13










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