$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ then $u$ is analytic for $sle 1$












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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that



$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$



I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.



It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:



$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?



UPDATE:



I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:




Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$



and



$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$




are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$



if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$



therefore



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$



for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$



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  • May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 17:39










  • @zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
    – Lucas Zanella
    Nov 26 at 18:25










  • Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 18:30










  • Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
    – Federico
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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that



$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$



I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.



It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:



$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?



UPDATE:



I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:




Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$



and



$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$




are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$



if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$



therefore



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$



for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$



is it true?










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  • May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 17:39










  • @zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
    – Lucas Zanella
    Nov 26 at 18:25










  • Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 18:30










  • Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
    – Federico
    Nov 29 at 18:08
















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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that



$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$



I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.



It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:



$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?



UPDATE:



I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:




Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$



and



$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$




are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$



if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$



therefore



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$



for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$



is it true?










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A function $uin C^{infty}$ belongs to the Gevrey Class of order $s$ if for every compact $K$ of $Omega$ there is a constant $C$ such that



$$sup_K |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



$$alphainmathbb{Z}_+^N$$



I've found this thing $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ which is close but has no $s$. It's known that for $s=1$ (Evans) such functions are analytic, but I don't know how to prove it for $s <1$.



It looks like that for $s>1$ I can simply insert $C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$ in the end of the inequality like this:



$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$



so for $s>1$ every funtion that satisfies this is analytic?



UPDATE:



I have from $u$ harmonic then $|D^{alpha} u(x_0)|le frac{C_k}{r^{n+k}}||u||$ or $sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$ that for any ball that:




Given any closed ball $BsubsetOmega$, there exists $C>0$ such that
$$sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!$$



and



$f$ is real analytic in $Omega$




are equivalent statements. Therefore, if we pick a function $u$ from the Gevrey class, it is true that



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s $$



if we pick ${overline{B}}$ as our compact $K$



therefore



$$sup_{overline{B}} |partial^{alpha}u|le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha! $$



for $0<s<1$. Therefore, by our theorem, it is true that $u$ is real analytic in $Omega$



is it true?







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  • May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 17:39










  • @zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
    – Lucas Zanella
    Nov 26 at 18:25










  • Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 18:30










  • Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
    – Federico
    Nov 29 at 18:08




















  • May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 17:39










  • @zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
    – Lucas Zanella
    Nov 26 at 18:25










  • Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
    – zeraoulia rafik
    Nov 26 at 18:30










  • Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
    – Federico
    Nov 29 at 18:08


















May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 at 17:39




May you seek about a compact for which every sequence u(n) converge to 0 by the means of distribution Topology D(R)
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 at 17:39












@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 at 18:25




@zeraouliarafik unfortunately I don't think distribution topology is a way here because I have any background on this
– Lucas Zanella
Nov 26 at 18:25












Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 at 18:30




Since you have posted PDE in your tag , and all your given data indicate the uses of distribution partically the convergence to the null function in the the Topology of distribution
– zeraoulia rafik
Nov 26 at 18:30












Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Federico
Nov 29 at 18:08






Your last argument seems good to me. See the third characterization in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
– Federico
Nov 29 at 18:08












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You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
$u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
$$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.



Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$

starting from
$$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$



It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.






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    You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
    $u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
    The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
    $$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
    since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.



    Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
    $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
    C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$

    starting from
    $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$



    It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.






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      You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
      $u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
      The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
      $$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
      since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.



      Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
      $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
      C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$

      starting from
      $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$



      It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.






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        You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
        $u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
        The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
        $$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
        since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.



        Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
        $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
        C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$

        starting from
        $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$



        It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.






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        You are right for $s<1$, these functions are analytic. In fact, such a $u$ is entire. Expanding $u$ at any point $x_0$ where it is originally defined, we have the Taylor series
        $u(x) = sum_{n=0}^infty frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!} (x-x_0)^n$.
        The radius of convergence $R$ of this series satisfies
        $$ frac1R = limsup_{ntoinfty} sqrt[n]{frac {u^{(n)}(x_0)}{n!}}le lim_{ntoinfty} Csqrt[n]{frac {1}{(n!)^{1-s}}} = 0,$$
        since $n!sim sqrt{2pi n} (n/e)^n$. So the series converges on $mathbb R,$ and defines an analytic extension past $K$.



        Bur for $s>1$, you cannot get the chain of inequalities
        $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)|le
        C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s$$

        starting from
        $$ sup_{xin B}|partial^{alpha} f(x)| le C^{|alpha|+1}alpha!^s.$$



        It is the other way, an analytic function(i.e. $s=1$) is also Gevrey class of order $s>1$. The Gevrey class for $s>1$ contains non-analytic functions: for instance $exp(-1/x)mathbb1_{x>0}$ is Gevrey but not analytic, see my computation in Bounding the extrema of polynomials from $frac{d^n}{dx^n} exp(-1/x)$.







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