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A Goldbug Number of order k is an even number 2n for which there exists some k order subset of the prime non-divisors of n $2 < p_1 < p_2 < p_3 < cdots < p_k < n$ such that $(2n-p_1)(2n-p_2)(2n-p_3)cdots (2n-p_k)$ only has $p_1,p_2,p_3,...,p_k$ as factors.



It would seem there would be an elegant way to code this up, I'm curious if anyone has insight into most efficient way since I am guessing checking will become combinatorically hard quickly as 2n increases. I was looking at using python but of course want to use most efficient means so could be some other language or package.



More details and some code can be found in the thread below:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=23858



The proof that shows how these numbers are related to Goldbach can be found here:



https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6477020387417878528










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    So what kind of answer to which question is expected? There should be a (predictible) finality somewhere. It is hard to start a discussion or to post code on this site. Usually, the own efforts should be shown. Please also look at the jax (latex) format possibilities. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…, the question assumes a given level of math and computer science...
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    What is most efficient way to check if a number is a Goldbug in python? My efforts are shown in the code in the linked thread, but have only coded up order 2 and 3 search and not in most efficient way. How to generalize to subsets of size k? Is there a faster way to check subsets of all sizes simultaneously?
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    I wanted to cross post here a link to where people can find more information about Goldbugs, the contest, and the proof related to them. linkedin.com/in/craigbeisel
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A Goldbug Number of order k is an even number 2n for which there exists some k order subset of the prime non-divisors of n $2 < p_1 < p_2 < p_3 < cdots < p_k < n$ such that $(2n-p_1)(2n-p_2)(2n-p_3)cdots (2n-p_k)$ only has $p_1,p_2,p_3,...,p_k$ as factors.



It would seem there would be an elegant way to code this up, I'm curious if anyone has insight into most efficient way since I am guessing checking will become combinatorically hard quickly as 2n increases. I was looking at using python but of course want to use most efficient means so could be some other language or package.



More details and some code can be found in the thread below:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=23858



The proof that shows how these numbers are related to Goldbach can be found here:



https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6477020387417878528










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    So what kind of answer to which question is expected? There should be a (predictible) finality somewhere. It is hard to start a discussion or to post code on this site. Usually, the own efforts should be shown. Please also look at the jax (latex) format possibilities. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…, the question assumes a given level of math and computer science...
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    What is most efficient way to check if a number is a Goldbug in python? My efforts are shown in the code in the linked thread, but have only coded up order 2 and 3 search and not in most efficient way. How to generalize to subsets of size k? Is there a faster way to check subsets of all sizes simultaneously?
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    I wanted to cross post here a link to where people can find more information about Goldbugs, the contest, and the proof related to them. linkedin.com/in/craigbeisel
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    Dec 7 '18 at 20:00
















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A Goldbug Number of order k is an even number 2n for which there exists some k order subset of the prime non-divisors of n $2 < p_1 < p_2 < p_3 < cdots < p_k < n$ such that $(2n-p_1)(2n-p_2)(2n-p_3)cdots (2n-p_k)$ only has $p_1,p_2,p_3,...,p_k$ as factors.



It would seem there would be an elegant way to code this up, I'm curious if anyone has insight into most efficient way since I am guessing checking will become combinatorically hard quickly as 2n increases. I was looking at using python but of course want to use most efficient means so could be some other language or package.



More details and some code can be found in the thread below:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=23858



The proof that shows how these numbers are related to Goldbach can be found here:



https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6477020387417878528










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A Goldbug Number of order k is an even number 2n for which there exists some k order subset of the prime non-divisors of n $2 < p_1 < p_2 < p_3 < cdots < p_k < n$ such that $(2n-p_1)(2n-p_2)(2n-p_3)cdots (2n-p_k)$ only has $p_1,p_2,p_3,...,p_k$ as factors.



It would seem there would be an elegant way to code this up, I'm curious if anyone has insight into most efficient way since I am guessing checking will become combinatorically hard quickly as 2n increases. I was looking at using python but of course want to use most efficient means so could be some other language or package.



More details and some code can be found in the thread below:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showthread.php?t=23858



The proof that shows how these numbers are related to Goldbach can be found here:



https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6477020387417878528







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    So what kind of answer to which question is expected? There should be a (predictible) finality somewhere. It is hard to start a discussion or to post code on this site. Usually, the own efforts should be shown. Please also look at the jax (latex) format possibilities. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…, the question assumes a given level of math and computer science...
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    What is most efficient way to check if a number is a Goldbug in python? My efforts are shown in the code in the linked thread, but have only coded up order 2 and 3 search and not in most efficient way. How to generalize to subsets of size k? Is there a faster way to check subsets of all sizes simultaneously?
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    I wanted to cross post here a link to where people can find more information about Goldbugs, the contest, and the proof related to them. linkedin.com/in/craigbeisel
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    So what kind of answer to which question is expected? There should be a (predictible) finality somewhere. It is hard to start a discussion or to post code on this site. Usually, the own efforts should be shown. Please also look at the jax (latex) format possibilities. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…, the question assumes a given level of math and computer science...
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    What is most efficient way to check if a number is a Goldbug in python? My efforts are shown in the code in the linked thread, but have only coded up order 2 and 3 search and not in most efficient way. How to generalize to subsets of size k? Is there a faster way to check subsets of all sizes simultaneously?
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    – goldbug
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    I wanted to cross post here a link to where people can find more information about Goldbugs, the contest, and the proof related to them. linkedin.com/in/craigbeisel
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    – goldbug
    Dec 7 '18 at 20:00










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So what kind of answer to which question is expected? There should be a (predictible) finality somewhere. It is hard to start a discussion or to post code on this site. Usually, the own efforts should be shown. Please also look at the jax (latex) format possibilities. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…, the question assumes a given level of math and computer science...
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So what kind of answer to which question is expected? There should be a (predictible) finality somewhere. It is hard to start a discussion or to post code on this site. Usually, the own efforts should be shown. Please also look at the jax (latex) format possibilities. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…, the question assumes a given level of math and computer science...
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What is most efficient way to check if a number is a Goldbug in python? My efforts are shown in the code in the linked thread, but have only coded up order 2 and 3 search and not in most efficient way. How to generalize to subsets of size k? Is there a faster way to check subsets of all sizes simultaneously?
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What is most efficient way to check if a number is a Goldbug in python? My efforts are shown in the code in the linked thread, but have only coded up order 2 and 3 search and not in most efficient way. How to generalize to subsets of size k? Is there a faster way to check subsets of all sizes simultaneously?
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I wanted to cross post here a link to where people can find more information about Goldbugs, the contest, and the proof related to them. linkedin.com/in/craigbeisel
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I am posting the code from the forum written by UAU. This is the best implementation to date and identifies 6 Goldbug numbers under 100k. Keep in mind for speed this is searching for the maximal set and there can be subsets of the maximal set which satisfy the Goldbug property. I have run the code and verified it produces 6 Goldbugs under 100k (128,1718,1862,1928,2200,6142). For more details see the original post:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=501714&postcount=23



Thanks UAU!



#!/usr/bin/python3
import sys

def sieve(n):
n //= 2
r = [ for _ in range(n)]
for x in range(1, n):
if r[x]:
continue
r[x] = None
y = 3*x+1
while y < n:
r[y].append(2*x+1)
y += x+x+1
return r

def check(n, r):
s = {}
for i in range(3, n//2, 2):
if r[i>>1] is not None or not n % i:
continue
for f in r[(n-i)>>1] or [n-i]:
s.setdefault(f, ).append(i)
bad = [x for x in s if x >= n//2]
bad_seen = set(bad)
ok = set(i for i in range(3, n // 2, 2) if r[i>>1] is None and n % i)
while bad:
x = s.get(bad.pop(), ())
for p in x:
if p not in bad_seen:
bad.append(p)
bad_seen.add(p)
ok.discard(p)
return ok

def search(lim):
r = sieve(lim)
for i in range(2, lim, 2):
x = check(i, r)
if x:
print(i, sorted(x))

search(int(sys.argv[1]))





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    Someone please up vote this so I don't keep having to scroll down so far...
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I am posting sage code (rather than pure py code), see also



www.sagemath.org



which is testing if a given number is a Goldburg number, corrected version.



(In the first version primes till $N=2n$ were included, i definitively need glasses. Sorry for the first version.)



Python is maybe too weak to start programming number theory from the scratch in it.
This is the reason why using sage, which is python plus batteries.
Here is my code, second try, some Goldburg numbers were found...



def deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k):
"""The number N shoud be even.
This routine tests if there are prime numbers p1, p2, ... , pk
2 < p1 < p2 < ... < pk < n (*** bug fix ***)
so that for any pj in the list
N - pj
involves as factors only the primes p1, p2, ... , pk themselves again.
This is a lazy quick implementation.
"""

n = ZZ(N/2)
D = Set(n.divisors())

# *** bug fix below w.r.t. my first post *** using only primes < n
# (the older code went till N)
allowedPrimes = Set([ p for p in primes(3, n) ])

for p in allowedPrimes:
P = [p, ] # init start, we soon extend
stillSearch = True

while stillSearch:
stillSearch = False
P_New = [ prime_number
for q in P
for prime_number in (N-q).prime_divisors() ]

P_New = list(Set(P_New + P))

if ( len(P_New) > k
or D.intersection(Set(P_New))
or not Set(P_New).issubset(allowedPrimes)
):
continue # with the next p

# else
if len(P) == len(P_New):
if len(P) == k:
# print "Solution: {}".format(P)
return P

else:
P = P_New[:]
stillSearch = True

for N in range(2, 10000, 2):
for k in (2,3):
sol = deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k)
if sol:
print( "GOLDBURG NUMBER: N={} k={} SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES {}"
.format(N, k, sol) )
if N % 500 == 0:
print "t... N={} so far".format(N)


Results:



        ... N=500 so far
... N=1000 so far
... N=1500 so far
... N=2000 so far
GOLDBURG NUMBER: N=2200 k=2 SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES [3, 13]
... N=2500 so far
... N=3000 so far
... N=3500 so far
... N=4000 so far
... N=4500 so far
... N=5000 so far
... N=5500 so far
... N=6000 so far
... N=6500 so far
... N=7000 so far
... N=7500 so far
... N=8000 so far
... N=8500 so far
... N=9000 so far
... N=9500 so far


So there is only one $k$-Goldburg number, $k=2,3$ (allowed) up to $9999$, which is $2200$ for $k=2$ and the primes $3,13$.



The code is no longer building "clusters", so that in the "peculiar case" a number is both a $k_1$- and a $k_2$-Goldburg number for different sets of primes (so that it is then also a $(k_1+k_2)$-Goldburg number) the code will not detect it.






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    sage was used above, not Python.
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    N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
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    Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
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    Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
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    If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
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    Dec 5 '18 at 13:35











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I am posting the code from the forum written by UAU. This is the best implementation to date and identifies 6 Goldbug numbers under 100k. Keep in mind for speed this is searching for the maximal set and there can be subsets of the maximal set which satisfy the Goldbug property. I have run the code and verified it produces 6 Goldbugs under 100k (128,1718,1862,1928,2200,6142). For more details see the original post:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=501714&postcount=23



Thanks UAU!



#!/usr/bin/python3
import sys

def sieve(n):
n //= 2
r = [ for _ in range(n)]
for x in range(1, n):
if r[x]:
continue
r[x] = None
y = 3*x+1
while y < n:
r[y].append(2*x+1)
y += x+x+1
return r

def check(n, r):
s = {}
for i in range(3, n//2, 2):
if r[i>>1] is not None or not n % i:
continue
for f in r[(n-i)>>1] or [n-i]:
s.setdefault(f, ).append(i)
bad = [x for x in s if x >= n//2]
bad_seen = set(bad)
ok = set(i for i in range(3, n // 2, 2) if r[i>>1] is None and n % i)
while bad:
x = s.get(bad.pop(), ())
for p in x:
if p not in bad_seen:
bad.append(p)
bad_seen.add(p)
ok.discard(p)
return ok

def search(lim):
r = sieve(lim)
for i in range(2, lim, 2):
x = check(i, r)
if x:
print(i, sorted(x))

search(int(sys.argv[1]))





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I am posting the code from the forum written by UAU. This is the best implementation to date and identifies 6 Goldbug numbers under 100k. Keep in mind for speed this is searching for the maximal set and there can be subsets of the maximal set which satisfy the Goldbug property. I have run the code and verified it produces 6 Goldbugs under 100k (128,1718,1862,1928,2200,6142). For more details see the original post:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=501714&postcount=23



Thanks UAU!



#!/usr/bin/python3
import sys

def sieve(n):
n //= 2
r = [ for _ in range(n)]
for x in range(1, n):
if r[x]:
continue
r[x] = None
y = 3*x+1
while y < n:
r[y].append(2*x+1)
y += x+x+1
return r

def check(n, r):
s = {}
for i in range(3, n//2, 2):
if r[i>>1] is not None or not n % i:
continue
for f in r[(n-i)>>1] or [n-i]:
s.setdefault(f, ).append(i)
bad = [x for x in s if x >= n//2]
bad_seen = set(bad)
ok = set(i for i in range(3, n // 2, 2) if r[i>>1] is None and n % i)
while bad:
x = s.get(bad.pop(), ())
for p in x:
if p not in bad_seen:
bad.append(p)
bad_seen.add(p)
ok.discard(p)
return ok

def search(lim):
r = sieve(lim)
for i in range(2, lim, 2):
x = check(i, r)
if x:
print(i, sorted(x))

search(int(sys.argv[1]))





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I am posting the code from the forum written by UAU. This is the best implementation to date and identifies 6 Goldbug numbers under 100k. Keep in mind for speed this is searching for the maximal set and there can be subsets of the maximal set which satisfy the Goldbug property. I have run the code and verified it produces 6 Goldbugs under 100k (128,1718,1862,1928,2200,6142). For more details see the original post:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=501714&postcount=23



Thanks UAU!



#!/usr/bin/python3
import sys

def sieve(n):
n //= 2
r = [ for _ in range(n)]
for x in range(1, n):
if r[x]:
continue
r[x] = None
y = 3*x+1
while y < n:
r[y].append(2*x+1)
y += x+x+1
return r

def check(n, r):
s = {}
for i in range(3, n//2, 2):
if r[i>>1] is not None or not n % i:
continue
for f in r[(n-i)>>1] or [n-i]:
s.setdefault(f, ).append(i)
bad = [x for x in s if x >= n//2]
bad_seen = set(bad)
ok = set(i for i in range(3, n // 2, 2) if r[i>>1] is None and n % i)
while bad:
x = s.get(bad.pop(), ())
for p in x:
if p not in bad_seen:
bad.append(p)
bad_seen.add(p)
ok.discard(p)
return ok

def search(lim):
r = sieve(lim)
for i in range(2, lim, 2):
x = check(i, r)
if x:
print(i, sorted(x))

search(int(sys.argv[1]))





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I am posting the code from the forum written by UAU. This is the best implementation to date and identifies 6 Goldbug numbers under 100k. Keep in mind for speed this is searching for the maximal set and there can be subsets of the maximal set which satisfy the Goldbug property. I have run the code and verified it produces 6 Goldbugs under 100k (128,1718,1862,1928,2200,6142). For more details see the original post:



https://www.mersenneforum.org/showpost.php?p=501714&postcount=23



Thanks UAU!



#!/usr/bin/python3
import sys

def sieve(n):
n //= 2
r = [ for _ in range(n)]
for x in range(1, n):
if r[x]:
continue
r[x] = None
y = 3*x+1
while y < n:
r[y].append(2*x+1)
y += x+x+1
return r

def check(n, r):
s = {}
for i in range(3, n//2, 2):
if r[i>>1] is not None or not n % i:
continue
for f in r[(n-i)>>1] or [n-i]:
s.setdefault(f, ).append(i)
bad = [x for x in s if x >= n//2]
bad_seen = set(bad)
ok = set(i for i in range(3, n // 2, 2) if r[i>>1] is None and n % i)
while bad:
x = s.get(bad.pop(), ())
for p in x:
if p not in bad_seen:
bad.append(p)
bad_seen.add(p)
ok.discard(p)
return ok

def search(lim):
r = sieve(lim)
for i in range(2, lim, 2):
x = check(i, r)
if x:
print(i, sorted(x))

search(int(sys.argv[1]))






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    Someone please up vote this so I don't keep having to scroll down so far...
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    Someone please up vote this so I don't keep having to scroll down so far...
    $endgroup$
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    Dec 9 '18 at 23:35
















$begingroup$
Someone please up vote this so I don't keep having to scroll down so far...
$endgroup$
– goldbug
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35




$begingroup$
Someone please up vote this so I don't keep having to scroll down so far...
$endgroup$
– goldbug
Dec 9 '18 at 23:35











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$begingroup$

I am posting sage code (rather than pure py code), see also



www.sagemath.org



which is testing if a given number is a Goldburg number, corrected version.



(In the first version primes till $N=2n$ were included, i definitively need glasses. Sorry for the first version.)



Python is maybe too weak to start programming number theory from the scratch in it.
This is the reason why using sage, which is python plus batteries.
Here is my code, second try, some Goldburg numbers were found...



def deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k):
"""The number N shoud be even.
This routine tests if there are prime numbers p1, p2, ... , pk
2 < p1 < p2 < ... < pk < n (*** bug fix ***)
so that for any pj in the list
N - pj
involves as factors only the primes p1, p2, ... , pk themselves again.
This is a lazy quick implementation.
"""

n = ZZ(N/2)
D = Set(n.divisors())

# *** bug fix below w.r.t. my first post *** using only primes < n
# (the older code went till N)
allowedPrimes = Set([ p for p in primes(3, n) ])

for p in allowedPrimes:
P = [p, ] # init start, we soon extend
stillSearch = True

while stillSearch:
stillSearch = False
P_New = [ prime_number
for q in P
for prime_number in (N-q).prime_divisors() ]

P_New = list(Set(P_New + P))

if ( len(P_New) > k
or D.intersection(Set(P_New))
or not Set(P_New).issubset(allowedPrimes)
):
continue # with the next p

# else
if len(P) == len(P_New):
if len(P) == k:
# print "Solution: {}".format(P)
return P

else:
P = P_New[:]
stillSearch = True

for N in range(2, 10000, 2):
for k in (2,3):
sol = deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k)
if sol:
print( "GOLDBURG NUMBER: N={} k={} SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES {}"
.format(N, k, sol) )
if N % 500 == 0:
print "t... N={} so far".format(N)


Results:



        ... N=500 so far
... N=1000 so far
... N=1500 so far
... N=2000 so far
GOLDBURG NUMBER: N=2200 k=2 SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES [3, 13]
... N=2500 so far
... N=3000 so far
... N=3500 so far
... N=4000 so far
... N=4500 so far
... N=5000 so far
... N=5500 so far
... N=6000 so far
... N=6500 so far
... N=7000 so far
... N=7500 so far
... N=8000 so far
... N=8500 so far
... N=9000 so far
... N=9500 so far


So there is only one $k$-Goldburg number, $k=2,3$ (allowed) up to $9999$, which is $2200$ for $k=2$ and the primes $3,13$.



The code is no longer building "clusters", so that in the "peculiar case" a number is both a $k_1$- and a $k_2$-Goldburg number for different sets of primes (so that it is then also a $(k_1+k_2)$-Goldburg number) the code will not detect it.






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    sage was used above, not Python.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 2:37










  • $begingroup$
    N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:59












  • $begingroup$
    Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:31










  • $begingroup$
    Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:36










  • $begingroup$
    If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 13:35
















0












$begingroup$

I am posting sage code (rather than pure py code), see also



www.sagemath.org



which is testing if a given number is a Goldburg number, corrected version.



(In the first version primes till $N=2n$ were included, i definitively need glasses. Sorry for the first version.)



Python is maybe too weak to start programming number theory from the scratch in it.
This is the reason why using sage, which is python plus batteries.
Here is my code, second try, some Goldburg numbers were found...



def deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k):
"""The number N shoud be even.
This routine tests if there are prime numbers p1, p2, ... , pk
2 < p1 < p2 < ... < pk < n (*** bug fix ***)
so that for any pj in the list
N - pj
involves as factors only the primes p1, p2, ... , pk themselves again.
This is a lazy quick implementation.
"""

n = ZZ(N/2)
D = Set(n.divisors())

# *** bug fix below w.r.t. my first post *** using only primes < n
# (the older code went till N)
allowedPrimes = Set([ p for p in primes(3, n) ])

for p in allowedPrimes:
P = [p, ] # init start, we soon extend
stillSearch = True

while stillSearch:
stillSearch = False
P_New = [ prime_number
for q in P
for prime_number in (N-q).prime_divisors() ]

P_New = list(Set(P_New + P))

if ( len(P_New) > k
or D.intersection(Set(P_New))
or not Set(P_New).issubset(allowedPrimes)
):
continue # with the next p

# else
if len(P) == len(P_New):
if len(P) == k:
# print "Solution: {}".format(P)
return P

else:
P = P_New[:]
stillSearch = True

for N in range(2, 10000, 2):
for k in (2,3):
sol = deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k)
if sol:
print( "GOLDBURG NUMBER: N={} k={} SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES {}"
.format(N, k, sol) )
if N % 500 == 0:
print "t... N={} so far".format(N)


Results:



        ... N=500 so far
... N=1000 so far
... N=1500 so far
... N=2000 so far
GOLDBURG NUMBER: N=2200 k=2 SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES [3, 13]
... N=2500 so far
... N=3000 so far
... N=3500 so far
... N=4000 so far
... N=4500 so far
... N=5000 so far
... N=5500 so far
... N=6000 so far
... N=6500 so far
... N=7000 so far
... N=7500 so far
... N=8000 so far
... N=8500 so far
... N=9000 so far
... N=9500 so far


So there is only one $k$-Goldburg number, $k=2,3$ (allowed) up to $9999$, which is $2200$ for $k=2$ and the primes $3,13$.



The code is no longer building "clusters", so that in the "peculiar case" a number is both a $k_1$- and a $k_2$-Goldburg number for different sets of primes (so that it is then also a $(k_1+k_2)$-Goldburg number) the code will not detect it.






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  • $begingroup$
    sage was used above, not Python.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 2:37










  • $begingroup$
    N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:59












  • $begingroup$
    Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:31










  • $begingroup$
    Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:36










  • $begingroup$
    If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 13:35














0












0








0





$begingroup$

I am posting sage code (rather than pure py code), see also



www.sagemath.org



which is testing if a given number is a Goldburg number, corrected version.



(In the first version primes till $N=2n$ were included, i definitively need glasses. Sorry for the first version.)



Python is maybe too weak to start programming number theory from the scratch in it.
This is the reason why using sage, which is python plus batteries.
Here is my code, second try, some Goldburg numbers were found...



def deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k):
"""The number N shoud be even.
This routine tests if there are prime numbers p1, p2, ... , pk
2 < p1 < p2 < ... < pk < n (*** bug fix ***)
so that for any pj in the list
N - pj
involves as factors only the primes p1, p2, ... , pk themselves again.
This is a lazy quick implementation.
"""

n = ZZ(N/2)
D = Set(n.divisors())

# *** bug fix below w.r.t. my first post *** using only primes < n
# (the older code went till N)
allowedPrimes = Set([ p for p in primes(3, n) ])

for p in allowedPrimes:
P = [p, ] # init start, we soon extend
stillSearch = True

while stillSearch:
stillSearch = False
P_New = [ prime_number
for q in P
for prime_number in (N-q).prime_divisors() ]

P_New = list(Set(P_New + P))

if ( len(P_New) > k
or D.intersection(Set(P_New))
or not Set(P_New).issubset(allowedPrimes)
):
continue # with the next p

# else
if len(P) == len(P_New):
if len(P) == k:
# print "Solution: {}".format(P)
return P

else:
P = P_New[:]
stillSearch = True

for N in range(2, 10000, 2):
for k in (2,3):
sol = deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k)
if sol:
print( "GOLDBURG NUMBER: N={} k={} SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES {}"
.format(N, k, sol) )
if N % 500 == 0:
print "t... N={} so far".format(N)


Results:



        ... N=500 so far
... N=1000 so far
... N=1500 so far
... N=2000 so far
GOLDBURG NUMBER: N=2200 k=2 SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES [3, 13]
... N=2500 so far
... N=3000 so far
... N=3500 so far
... N=4000 so far
... N=4500 so far
... N=5000 so far
... N=5500 so far
... N=6000 so far
... N=6500 so far
... N=7000 so far
... N=7500 so far
... N=8000 so far
... N=8500 so far
... N=9000 so far
... N=9500 so far


So there is only one $k$-Goldburg number, $k=2,3$ (allowed) up to $9999$, which is $2200$ for $k=2$ and the primes $3,13$.



The code is no longer building "clusters", so that in the "peculiar case" a number is both a $k_1$- and a $k_2$-Goldburg number for different sets of primes (so that it is then also a $(k_1+k_2)$-Goldburg number) the code will not detect it.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



I am posting sage code (rather than pure py code), see also



www.sagemath.org



which is testing if a given number is a Goldburg number, corrected version.



(In the first version primes till $N=2n$ were included, i definitively need glasses. Sorry for the first version.)



Python is maybe too weak to start programming number theory from the scratch in it.
This is the reason why using sage, which is python plus batteries.
Here is my code, second try, some Goldburg numbers were found...



def deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k):
"""The number N shoud be even.
This routine tests if there are prime numbers p1, p2, ... , pk
2 < p1 < p2 < ... < pk < n (*** bug fix ***)
so that for any pj in the list
N - pj
involves as factors only the primes p1, p2, ... , pk themselves again.
This is a lazy quick implementation.
"""

n = ZZ(N/2)
D = Set(n.divisors())

# *** bug fix below w.r.t. my first post *** using only primes < n
# (the older code went till N)
allowedPrimes = Set([ p for p in primes(3, n) ])

for p in allowedPrimes:
P = [p, ] # init start, we soon extend
stillSearch = True

while stillSearch:
stillSearch = False
P_New = [ prime_number
for q in P
for prime_number in (N-q).prime_divisors() ]

P_New = list(Set(P_New + P))

if ( len(P_New) > k
or D.intersection(Set(P_New))
or not Set(P_New).issubset(allowedPrimes)
):
continue # with the next p

# else
if len(P) == len(P_New):
if len(P) == k:
# print "Solution: {}".format(P)
return P

else:
P = P_New[:]
stillSearch = True

for N in range(2, 10000, 2):
for k in (2,3):
sol = deliverGoldburgSolution(N, k)
if sol:
print( "GOLDBURG NUMBER: N={} k={} SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES {}"
.format(N, k, sol) )
if N % 500 == 0:
print "t... N={} so far".format(N)


Results:



        ... N=500 so far
... N=1000 so far
... N=1500 so far
... N=2000 so far
GOLDBURG NUMBER: N=2200 k=2 SOLUTION FOR THE PRIMES [3, 13]
... N=2500 so far
... N=3000 so far
... N=3500 so far
... N=4000 so far
... N=4500 so far
... N=5000 so far
... N=5500 so far
... N=6000 so far
... N=6500 so far
... N=7000 so far
... N=7500 so far
... N=8000 so far
... N=8500 so far
... N=9000 so far
... N=9500 so far


So there is only one $k$-Goldburg number, $k=2,3$ (allowed) up to $9999$, which is $2200$ for $k=2$ and the primes $3,13$.



The code is no longer building "clusters", so that in the "peculiar case" a number is both a $k_1$- and a $k_2$-Goldburg number for different sets of primes (so that it is then also a $(k_1+k_2)$-Goldburg number) the code will not detect it.







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answered Dec 5 '18 at 2:37









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  • $begingroup$
    sage was used above, not Python.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 2:37










  • $begingroup$
    N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:59












  • $begingroup$
    Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:31










  • $begingroup$
    Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:36










  • $begingroup$
    If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 13:35


















  • $begingroup$
    sage was used above, not Python.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 2:37










  • $begingroup$
    N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 4:59












  • $begingroup$
    Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:31










  • $begingroup$
    Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
    $endgroup$
    – dan_fulea
    Dec 5 '18 at 11:36










  • $begingroup$
    If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
    $endgroup$
    – goldbug
    Dec 5 '18 at 13:35
















$begingroup$
sage was used above, not Python.
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Dec 5 '18 at 2:37




$begingroup$
sage was used above, not Python.
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Dec 5 '18 at 2:37












$begingroup$
N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
$endgroup$
– goldbug
Dec 5 '18 at 4:59






$begingroup$
N=14, 2N=28, 28-3=25=5*5, but 28-11=17 and 28-5=23 mean its not goldbug. Test should fail if 2n-p is prime not in original list.
$endgroup$
– goldbug
Dec 5 '18 at 4:59














$begingroup$
Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Dec 5 '18 at 11:31




$begingroup$
Please use latex. You define a Goldburg number and call it $2n$. I use only an $N$. So $N=14$, $n=7$. Now $14-3$ is $11$, and $11$ is in the list. Of course, using $3$ and $11$ we also have a Goldburg number with "$k=2$". But we also can add the prime $5$, then $14-5=9=3^2$, which is a power of the $3$, already in the list.
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Dec 5 '18 at 11:31












$begingroup$
Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Dec 5 '18 at 11:36




$begingroup$
Note that any even number which is the sum of two odd primes is a Goldburg number for "$k=3$" for these two primes. It is the reason why so many Goldburg numbers for $k=2$ exist. For each such realization $N=2n=p+q$, $p,q$ primes. if $N$ minus a power of one of the primes is a prime $r$, we get a configuration $(p,q,r)$ for which $N=2n$ is Goldburg.
$endgroup$
– dan_fulea
Dec 5 '18 at 11:36












$begingroup$
If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
$endgroup$
– goldbug
Dec 5 '18 at 13:35




$begingroup$
If your 2n is 14 then you cant include 11, only numbers less than n
$endgroup$
– goldbug
Dec 5 '18 at 13:35


















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