How can a spell caster increase the probability that they can cast a spell from a scroll that is a higher...
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From what I understand, even a level 1 wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
To be clear, this does not necessarily mean in what way can a level 1 wizard increase their ability in such a way. This question is in hope for a more conclusive list of either increasing the adventurer's roll or decreasing the DC.
The specific scenario I am imagining is a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration.
Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
This will hopefully be the culmination of three sessions over which the party gathers resources and adventures for this individual.
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From what I understand, even a level 1 wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
To be clear, this does not necessarily mean in what way can a level 1 wizard increase their ability in such a way. This question is in hope for a more conclusive list of either increasing the adventurer's roll or decreasing the DC.
The specific scenario I am imagining is a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration.
Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
This will hopefully be the culmination of three sessions over which the party gathers resources and adventures for this individual.
dnd-5e spells magic-items
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I am voting to close as too broad as listing any and all ways to boost an ability check is way too long a list.
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– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 14:57
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Ruling out any method that is a general way of improving ability checks and limiting to methods specific to this purpose. But frankly I am not sure where to draw the line. You may be better off looking for that list somewhere on the net. Another option is to make the situation you are trying to solve more specific (list level, resources, etc).
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– Szega
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I don't think that it is too broad. Class features, spells, and magic items are basically the only things that can help and plently of questions have involved browsing these three categories. Perhaps it would help to explicitly limit the question to those three categories.
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– Ruse
Dec 4 '18 at 15:09
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@Ruse while I'm not sure at all that I agree with this being too broad (I'm actually inclined against closing at the moment), but I'm also not sure that this would fix anything. It seems to me that "Class features, spells, and magic items" are already going to be the bulk of the answers so it isn't much of a limit.
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– Rubiksmoose
Dec 4 '18 at 15:25
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How cheesy do you accept the answers? I can come up with a way for this wizard to basically be guaranteed to read any wizard spell scroll regardless of level, but it involves some insane junk that no sane DM is going to let you get away with.
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– Adam
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From what I understand, even a level 1 wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
To be clear, this does not necessarily mean in what way can a level 1 wizard increase their ability in such a way. This question is in hope for a more conclusive list of either increasing the adventurer's roll or decreasing the DC.
The specific scenario I am imagining is a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration.
Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
This will hopefully be the culmination of three sessions over which the party gathers resources and adventures for this individual.
dnd-5e spells magic-items
asked Dec 4 '18 at 14:54
L0neGamerL0neGamer
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From what I understand, even a level 1 wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
To be clear, this does not necessarily mean in what way can a level 1 wizard increase their ability in such a way. This question is in hope for a more conclusive list of either increasing the adventurer's roll or decreasing the DC.
The specific scenario I am imagining is a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration.
Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
This will hopefully be the culmination of three sessions over which the party gathers resources and adventures for this individual.
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I am voting to close as too broad as listing any and all ways to boost an ability check is way too long a list.
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– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 14:57
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Ruling out any method that is a general way of improving ability checks and limiting to methods specific to this purpose. But frankly I am not sure where to draw the line. You may be better off looking for that list somewhere on the net. Another option is to make the situation you are trying to solve more specific (list level, resources, etc).
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– Szega
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I don't think that it is too broad. Class features, spells, and magic items are basically the only things that can help and plently of questions have involved browsing these three categories. Perhaps it would help to explicitly limit the question to those three categories.
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– Ruse
Dec 4 '18 at 15:09
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@Ruse while I'm not sure at all that I agree with this being too broad (I'm actually inclined against closing at the moment), but I'm also not sure that this would fix anything. It seems to me that "Class features, spells, and magic items" are already going to be the bulk of the answers so it isn't much of a limit.
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– Rubiksmoose
Dec 4 '18 at 15:25
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How cheesy do you accept the answers? I can come up with a way for this wizard to basically be guaranteed to read any wizard spell scroll regardless of level, but it involves some insane junk that no sane DM is going to let you get away with.
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– Adam
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I am voting to close as too broad as listing any and all ways to boost an ability check is way too long a list.
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– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 14:57
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Ruling out any method that is a general way of improving ability checks and limiting to methods specific to this purpose. But frankly I am not sure where to draw the line. You may be better off looking for that list somewhere on the net. Another option is to make the situation you are trying to solve more specific (list level, resources, etc).
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– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 15:03
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I don't think that it is too broad. Class features, spells, and magic items are basically the only things that can help and plently of questions have involved browsing these three categories. Perhaps it would help to explicitly limit the question to those three categories.
$endgroup$
– Ruse
Dec 4 '18 at 15:09
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@Ruse while I'm not sure at all that I agree with this being too broad (I'm actually inclined against closing at the moment), but I'm also not sure that this would fix anything. It seems to me that "Class features, spells, and magic items" are already going to be the bulk of the answers so it isn't much of a limit.
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– Rubiksmoose
Dec 4 '18 at 15:25
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How cheesy do you accept the answers? I can come up with a way for this wizard to basically be guaranteed to read any wizard spell scroll regardless of level, but it involves some insane junk that no sane DM is going to let you get away with.
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– Adam
Dec 4 '18 at 18:28
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I am voting to close as too broad as listing any and all ways to boost an ability check is way too long a list.
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– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 14:57
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I am voting to close as too broad as listing any and all ways to boost an ability check is way too long a list.
$endgroup$
– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 14:57
$begingroup$
Ruling out any method that is a general way of improving ability checks and limiting to methods specific to this purpose. But frankly I am not sure where to draw the line. You may be better off looking for that list somewhere on the net. Another option is to make the situation you are trying to solve more specific (list level, resources, etc).
$endgroup$
– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 15:03
$begingroup$
Ruling out any method that is a general way of improving ability checks and limiting to methods specific to this purpose. But frankly I am not sure where to draw the line. You may be better off looking for that list somewhere on the net. Another option is to make the situation you are trying to solve more specific (list level, resources, etc).
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– Szega
Dec 4 '18 at 15:03
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I don't think that it is too broad. Class features, spells, and magic items are basically the only things that can help and plently of questions have involved browsing these three categories. Perhaps it would help to explicitly limit the question to those three categories.
$endgroup$
– Ruse
Dec 4 '18 at 15:09
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I don't think that it is too broad. Class features, spells, and magic items are basically the only things that can help and plently of questions have involved browsing these three categories. Perhaps it would help to explicitly limit the question to those three categories.
$endgroup$
– Ruse
Dec 4 '18 at 15:09
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@Ruse while I'm not sure at all that I agree with this being too broad (I'm actually inclined against closing at the moment), but I'm also not sure that this would fix anything. It seems to me that "Class features, spells, and magic items" are already going to be the bulk of the answers so it isn't much of a limit.
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– Rubiksmoose
Dec 4 '18 at 15:25
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@Ruse while I'm not sure at all that I agree with this being too broad (I'm actually inclined against closing at the moment), but I'm also not sure that this would fix anything. It seems to me that "Class features, spells, and magic items" are already going to be the bulk of the answers so it isn't much of a limit.
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– Rubiksmoose
Dec 4 '18 at 15:25
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How cheesy do you accept the answers? I can come up with a way for this wizard to basically be guaranteed to read any wizard spell scroll regardless of level, but it involves some insane junk that no sane DM is going to let you get away with.
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– Adam
Dec 4 '18 at 18:28
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How cheesy do you accept the answers? I can come up with a way for this wizard to basically be guaranteed to read any wizard spell scroll regardless of level, but it involves some insane junk that no sane DM is going to let you get away with.
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The simplest way is to ask for guidance or use inspiration
A druid or cleric in the party (or a character with guidance due to Magic Initiate Feat) can use the guidance cantrip to boost the DC check by 1d4. I will confine my answer to your simpler example, though you can see how it might work in more complicated situations.
From what I understand, even a level 1 Wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
The problem: you don't want to waste the spell on the scroll
If the spell is on your class’s spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect. (SRD, p. 232, spell scroll, bolding mine)
Seek sources of advantage for the roll
If another character is available with the enhance ability spell (3rd level character or higher, 2d level spell) then casting that on the Wizard before the attempt will help.
Fox’s Cunning. The target has advantage on Intelligence checks.
A point of inspiration, if the Wizard has one, is another source of advantage.
If you have inspiration, you can expend it when you make an ... ability check. Spending your inspiration gives you advantage on that roll. (Basic Rules, p. 37)
If the Wizard has the lucky feat, that allows for an improved chance on the roll: in the simplest case, advantage by rolling a second d20
Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20.
As was shown in this answer, advantage improves the chances by 3 or more points, added to that 1d4: guidance plus advantage. Getting Bardic Inspiration rather than guidance to help would add 1d6 at low levels. Why not try and get both?
Bardic Inspiration (so that's why we have a bard in the party ...)
If the party has a bard in it, adding bardic inspiration would boost the 1d4 roll by another 1d6. (At lower levels. As levels go up, the benefit increases: d8 at 5th; d10 at 10th; d12; at 15th and higher). Granted, at that point the Wizard in question is going to have a higher Int bonus already.
As you can see, the answer for a given situation and a given spell DC will depend on the party's make up, in terms of how many other bonuses one can add to the d20 roll.
The surest way is with Divination School's Portent (if available)
If the wizard takes the Divination School at second level, the class feature Portent may be a huge boon here, but it depends on what die rolls are being held for the occasion. (see below)
Example problem: 4 out of 5 times guidance + bardic inspiration succeeds.
To illustrate your opening example: what are the the chances to achieve a target number of 19 (wish, 9th level spell) using help from this answer and assuming an Intelligence score of 16 (+3 bonus) for our 1st level wizard.
Unmodified: the wizard has a 25% chance to succeed on that DC 19 ability check. (Needs to roll a 16 or higher).
With advantage, 1st level wizard has to roll a 16 or better: 43.75% chance.
- With guidance, an increase of 1-4, the range needed to roll is from
15-12: 51% to 69.75% chance to succeed.
Add in a 1d6 of bardic inspiration to guidance, and the odds get very good. Those two dice will add between 2 and 10 to the roll. With advantage between 57.75% chance to 93.75% chance (Roll a 6 (best case) through a 14 (worst case) to succeed).
The first level Wizard can expect to succeed roughly 4 times out of 5 when combining guidance and bardic inspiration with advantage. The average of 1d4 is 2.5; the average of 1d6 is 3.5, for a rough combined "average" of 6 for simplicity's sake; the Wizard needs to roll a 10 or better, with advantage: 79.75%. Close enough to 4/5 for these purposes. Or, 78.71% using anydice for the whole best-of-2d20 + d4 + d6 + 3 roll (thanks @KamilDrakari)
For your mid-level case: it depends
a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration. Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
You can use the same process I outlined above, modified by whatever magic items, spells, and class features that you have at hand to boost the result of that roll. Whatever increases your generic INT Ability check roll results, or boosts your INT bonus (INT 20 = +5 bonus), will increase your chances of success.
If the spell on the scroll is on the Bard spell list, or your scenario unique spell is one a Bard is eligible to cast, Jack-of-All-Trades helps the Bard to read the spell from the high level spell since it is an ability check. At 9th level, with proficiency bonus of +4, that's +2 that can't be gotten in another way.
Starting at 2nd level, you can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any ability check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus. (emphasis mine. Thanks to @E.Downer for the tip; even though your unique case specifies mid-level conjuration Wizard).
Portent Deserves Special Mention
Divination school's Portent class feature is a huge benefit since you know the result ahead of time. If you already know the die roll, you can adjust up from that result, if needed.
When you finish a Long Rest, roll two d20s and record the numbers rolled. You can replace any Attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made by you or a creature that you can see with one of these foretelling rolls. You must choose to do so before the roll, and you can replace a roll in this way only once per turn. (PHB, Divination, level 2 class feature).
Let's say that your mid level wizard has a 20 Int at level 8. Portent rolls result in 4 and 11. The Wizard adds 5 to any roll due to Intelligence bonus. Pick the 11: only 3 more points are needed to achieve that 19. Lucky, advantage, inspiration, bardic inspiration, guidance ... get them from somewhere. The sources are varied with group composition and items at hand. Any item that increases the Intelligence modifier or allows a boost to a roll will increase the chances of success.
It's all or nothing! We get one shot at this! ("Superadvantage"-Lucky Feat)
You'll want the Lucky feat, and another source of advantage (the enhance ability spell or an Inspiration point grant that) to get Lucky's super advantage. That's where you get to roll 3d20, not 2d20, and add all of the bonuses from your other sources to the best roll.
The curious case of the disadvantage and Lucky
If the character has the Lucky feat, there is a way to turn disadvantage into super advantage with that feat. Details here. For example, the wizard could find a way to accrue a level of exhaustion, which gives disadvantage on ability checks, and making the attempt with lucky grants super advantage as above. This is an odd quirk in the lucky feat.
LUCKY
For example, if you have disadvantage on your attack roll, you could
spend a luck point, roll a third d20, and then decide which of the
three dice to use. You still have disadvantage, since the feat doesn’t
say it gets rid of it, but you do get to pick the die.
There has since been a tweet from Jeremy Crawford that he's changed his mind, but that text is still up at the WoTC web site, the errata to the PHB shows no change to the feat, and the published Sage ADvice Compendium, 2017, retains the above text. Before trying this, work with your DM; if you are DM discuss this with your players ahead of time if one of them has the Lucky feat. Arrive at a ruling that makes sense for your table. (Thanks to @AntiDrondert for the reminder).
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The simplest way is to ask for guidance or use inspiration
A druid or cleric in the party (or a character with guidance due to Magic Initiate Feat) can use the guidance cantrip to boost the DC check by 1d4. I will confine my answer to your simpler example, though you can see how it might work in more complicated situations.
From what I understand, even a level 1 Wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
The problem: you don't want to waste the spell on the scroll
If the spell is on your class’s spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect. (SRD, p. 232, spell scroll, bolding mine)
Seek sources of advantage for the roll
If another character is available with the enhance ability spell (3rd level character or higher, 2d level spell) then casting that on the Wizard before the attempt will help.
Fox’s Cunning. The target has advantage on Intelligence checks.
A point of inspiration, if the Wizard has one, is another source of advantage.
If you have inspiration, you can expend it when you make an ... ability check. Spending your inspiration gives you advantage on that roll. (Basic Rules, p. 37)
If the Wizard has the lucky feat, that allows for an improved chance on the roll: in the simplest case, advantage by rolling a second d20
Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20.
As was shown in this answer, advantage improves the chances by 3 or more points, added to that 1d4: guidance plus advantage. Getting Bardic Inspiration rather than guidance to help would add 1d6 at low levels. Why not try and get both?
Bardic Inspiration (so that's why we have a bard in the party ...)
If the party has a bard in it, adding bardic inspiration would boost the 1d4 roll by another 1d6. (At lower levels. As levels go up, the benefit increases: d8 at 5th; d10 at 10th; d12; at 15th and higher). Granted, at that point the Wizard in question is going to have a higher Int bonus already.
As you can see, the answer for a given situation and a given spell DC will depend on the party's make up, in terms of how many other bonuses one can add to the d20 roll.
The surest way is with Divination School's Portent (if available)
If the wizard takes the Divination School at second level, the class feature Portent may be a huge boon here, but it depends on what die rolls are being held for the occasion. (see below)
Example problem: 4 out of 5 times guidance + bardic inspiration succeeds.
To illustrate your opening example: what are the the chances to achieve a target number of 19 (wish, 9th level spell) using help from this answer and assuming an Intelligence score of 16 (+3 bonus) for our 1st level wizard.
Unmodified: the wizard has a 25% chance to succeed on that DC 19 ability check. (Needs to roll a 16 or higher).
With advantage, 1st level wizard has to roll a 16 or better: 43.75% chance.
- With guidance, an increase of 1-4, the range needed to roll is from
15-12: 51% to 69.75% chance to succeed.
Add in a 1d6 of bardic inspiration to guidance, and the odds get very good. Those two dice will add between 2 and 10 to the roll. With advantage between 57.75% chance to 93.75% chance (Roll a 6 (best case) through a 14 (worst case) to succeed).
The first level Wizard can expect to succeed roughly 4 times out of 5 when combining guidance and bardic inspiration with advantage. The average of 1d4 is 2.5; the average of 1d6 is 3.5, for a rough combined "average" of 6 for simplicity's sake; the Wizard needs to roll a 10 or better, with advantage: 79.75%. Close enough to 4/5 for these purposes. Or, 78.71% using anydice for the whole best-of-2d20 + d4 + d6 + 3 roll (thanks @KamilDrakari)
For your mid-level case: it depends
a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration. Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
You can use the same process I outlined above, modified by whatever magic items, spells, and class features that you have at hand to boost the result of that roll. Whatever increases your generic INT Ability check roll results, or boosts your INT bonus (INT 20 = +5 bonus), will increase your chances of success.
If the spell on the scroll is on the Bard spell list, or your scenario unique spell is one a Bard is eligible to cast, Jack-of-All-Trades helps the Bard to read the spell from the high level spell since it is an ability check. At 9th level, with proficiency bonus of +4, that's +2 that can't be gotten in another way.
Starting at 2nd level, you can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any ability check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus. (emphasis mine. Thanks to @E.Downer for the tip; even though your unique case specifies mid-level conjuration Wizard).
Portent Deserves Special Mention
Divination school's Portent class feature is a huge benefit since you know the result ahead of time. If you already know the die roll, you can adjust up from that result, if needed.
When you finish a Long Rest, roll two d20s and record the numbers rolled. You can replace any Attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made by you or a creature that you can see with one of these foretelling rolls. You must choose to do so before the roll, and you can replace a roll in this way only once per turn. (PHB, Divination, level 2 class feature).
Let's say that your mid level wizard has a 20 Int at level 8. Portent rolls result in 4 and 11. The Wizard adds 5 to any roll due to Intelligence bonus. Pick the 11: only 3 more points are needed to achieve that 19. Lucky, advantage, inspiration, bardic inspiration, guidance ... get them from somewhere. The sources are varied with group composition and items at hand. Any item that increases the Intelligence modifier or allows a boost to a roll will increase the chances of success.
It's all or nothing! We get one shot at this! ("Superadvantage"-Lucky Feat)
You'll want the Lucky feat, and another source of advantage (the enhance ability spell or an Inspiration point grant that) to get Lucky's super advantage. That's where you get to roll 3d20, not 2d20, and add all of the bonuses from your other sources to the best roll.
The curious case of the disadvantage and Lucky
If the character has the Lucky feat, there is a way to turn disadvantage into super advantage with that feat. Details here. For example, the wizard could find a way to accrue a level of exhaustion, which gives disadvantage on ability checks, and making the attempt with lucky grants super advantage as above. This is an odd quirk in the lucky feat.
LUCKY
For example, if you have disadvantage on your attack roll, you could
spend a luck point, roll a third d20, and then decide which of the
three dice to use. You still have disadvantage, since the feat doesn’t
say it gets rid of it, but you do get to pick the die.
There has since been a tweet from Jeremy Crawford that he's changed his mind, but that text is still up at the WoTC web site, the errata to the PHB shows no change to the feat, and the published Sage ADvice Compendium, 2017, retains the above text. Before trying this, work with your DM; if you are DM discuss this with your players ahead of time if one of them has the Lucky feat. Arrive at a ruling that makes sense for your table. (Thanks to @AntiDrondert for the reminder).
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The simplest way is to ask for guidance or use inspiration
A druid or cleric in the party (or a character with guidance due to Magic Initiate Feat) can use the guidance cantrip to boost the DC check by 1d4. I will confine my answer to your simpler example, though you can see how it might work in more complicated situations.
From what I understand, even a level 1 Wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
The problem: you don't want to waste the spell on the scroll
If the spell is on your class’s spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect. (SRD, p. 232, spell scroll, bolding mine)
Seek sources of advantage for the roll
If another character is available with the enhance ability spell (3rd level character or higher, 2d level spell) then casting that on the Wizard before the attempt will help.
Fox’s Cunning. The target has advantage on Intelligence checks.
A point of inspiration, if the Wizard has one, is another source of advantage.
If you have inspiration, you can expend it when you make an ... ability check. Spending your inspiration gives you advantage on that roll. (Basic Rules, p. 37)
If the Wizard has the lucky feat, that allows for an improved chance on the roll: in the simplest case, advantage by rolling a second d20
Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20.
As was shown in this answer, advantage improves the chances by 3 or more points, added to that 1d4: guidance plus advantage. Getting Bardic Inspiration rather than guidance to help would add 1d6 at low levels. Why not try and get both?
Bardic Inspiration (so that's why we have a bard in the party ...)
If the party has a bard in it, adding bardic inspiration would boost the 1d4 roll by another 1d6. (At lower levels. As levels go up, the benefit increases: d8 at 5th; d10 at 10th; d12; at 15th and higher). Granted, at that point the Wizard in question is going to have a higher Int bonus already.
As you can see, the answer for a given situation and a given spell DC will depend on the party's make up, in terms of how many other bonuses one can add to the d20 roll.
The surest way is with Divination School's Portent (if available)
If the wizard takes the Divination School at second level, the class feature Portent may be a huge boon here, but it depends on what die rolls are being held for the occasion. (see below)
Example problem: 4 out of 5 times guidance + bardic inspiration succeeds.
To illustrate your opening example: what are the the chances to achieve a target number of 19 (wish, 9th level spell) using help from this answer and assuming an Intelligence score of 16 (+3 bonus) for our 1st level wizard.
Unmodified: the wizard has a 25% chance to succeed on that DC 19 ability check. (Needs to roll a 16 or higher).
With advantage, 1st level wizard has to roll a 16 or better: 43.75% chance.
- With guidance, an increase of 1-4, the range needed to roll is from
15-12: 51% to 69.75% chance to succeed.
Add in a 1d6 of bardic inspiration to guidance, and the odds get very good. Those two dice will add between 2 and 10 to the roll. With advantage between 57.75% chance to 93.75% chance (Roll a 6 (best case) through a 14 (worst case) to succeed).
The first level Wizard can expect to succeed roughly 4 times out of 5 when combining guidance and bardic inspiration with advantage. The average of 1d4 is 2.5; the average of 1d6 is 3.5, for a rough combined "average" of 6 for simplicity's sake; the Wizard needs to roll a 10 or better, with advantage: 79.75%. Close enough to 4/5 for these purposes. Or, 78.71% using anydice for the whole best-of-2d20 + d4 + d6 + 3 roll (thanks @KamilDrakari)
For your mid-level case: it depends
a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration. Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
You can use the same process I outlined above, modified by whatever magic items, spells, and class features that you have at hand to boost the result of that roll. Whatever increases your generic INT Ability check roll results, or boosts your INT bonus (INT 20 = +5 bonus), will increase your chances of success.
If the spell on the scroll is on the Bard spell list, or your scenario unique spell is one a Bard is eligible to cast, Jack-of-All-Trades helps the Bard to read the spell from the high level spell since it is an ability check. At 9th level, with proficiency bonus of +4, that's +2 that can't be gotten in another way.
Starting at 2nd level, you can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any ability check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus. (emphasis mine. Thanks to @E.Downer for the tip; even though your unique case specifies mid-level conjuration Wizard).
Portent Deserves Special Mention
Divination school's Portent class feature is a huge benefit since you know the result ahead of time. If you already know the die roll, you can adjust up from that result, if needed.
When you finish a Long Rest, roll two d20s and record the numbers rolled. You can replace any Attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made by you or a creature that you can see with one of these foretelling rolls. You must choose to do so before the roll, and you can replace a roll in this way only once per turn. (PHB, Divination, level 2 class feature).
Let's say that your mid level wizard has a 20 Int at level 8. Portent rolls result in 4 and 11. The Wizard adds 5 to any roll due to Intelligence bonus. Pick the 11: only 3 more points are needed to achieve that 19. Lucky, advantage, inspiration, bardic inspiration, guidance ... get them from somewhere. The sources are varied with group composition and items at hand. Any item that increases the Intelligence modifier or allows a boost to a roll will increase the chances of success.
It's all or nothing! We get one shot at this! ("Superadvantage"-Lucky Feat)
You'll want the Lucky feat, and another source of advantage (the enhance ability spell or an Inspiration point grant that) to get Lucky's super advantage. That's where you get to roll 3d20, not 2d20, and add all of the bonuses from your other sources to the best roll.
The curious case of the disadvantage and Lucky
If the character has the Lucky feat, there is a way to turn disadvantage into super advantage with that feat. Details here. For example, the wizard could find a way to accrue a level of exhaustion, which gives disadvantage on ability checks, and making the attempt with lucky grants super advantage as above. This is an odd quirk in the lucky feat.
LUCKY
For example, if you have disadvantage on your attack roll, you could
spend a luck point, roll a third d20, and then decide which of the
three dice to use. You still have disadvantage, since the feat doesn’t
say it gets rid of it, but you do get to pick the die.
There has since been a tweet from Jeremy Crawford that he's changed his mind, but that text is still up at the WoTC web site, the errata to the PHB shows no change to the feat, and the published Sage ADvice Compendium, 2017, retains the above text. Before trying this, work with your DM; if you are DM discuss this with your players ahead of time if one of them has the Lucky feat. Arrive at a ruling that makes sense for your table. (Thanks to @AntiDrondert for the reminder).
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The simplest way is to ask for guidance or use inspiration
A druid or cleric in the party (or a character with guidance due to Magic Initiate Feat) can use the guidance cantrip to boost the DC check by 1d4. I will confine my answer to your simpler example, though you can see how it might work in more complicated situations.
From what I understand, even a level 1 Wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
The problem: you don't want to waste the spell on the scroll
If the spell is on your class’s spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect. (SRD, p. 232, spell scroll, bolding mine)
Seek sources of advantage for the roll
If another character is available with the enhance ability spell (3rd level character or higher, 2d level spell) then casting that on the Wizard before the attempt will help.
Fox’s Cunning. The target has advantage on Intelligence checks.
A point of inspiration, if the Wizard has one, is another source of advantage.
If you have inspiration, you can expend it when you make an ... ability check. Spending your inspiration gives you advantage on that roll. (Basic Rules, p. 37)
If the Wizard has the lucky feat, that allows for an improved chance on the roll: in the simplest case, advantage by rolling a second d20
Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20.
As was shown in this answer, advantage improves the chances by 3 or more points, added to that 1d4: guidance plus advantage. Getting Bardic Inspiration rather than guidance to help would add 1d6 at low levels. Why not try and get both?
Bardic Inspiration (so that's why we have a bard in the party ...)
If the party has a bard in it, adding bardic inspiration would boost the 1d4 roll by another 1d6. (At lower levels. As levels go up, the benefit increases: d8 at 5th; d10 at 10th; d12; at 15th and higher). Granted, at that point the Wizard in question is going to have a higher Int bonus already.
As you can see, the answer for a given situation and a given spell DC will depend on the party's make up, in terms of how many other bonuses one can add to the d20 roll.
The surest way is with Divination School's Portent (if available)
If the wizard takes the Divination School at second level, the class feature Portent may be a huge boon here, but it depends on what die rolls are being held for the occasion. (see below)
Example problem: 4 out of 5 times guidance + bardic inspiration succeeds.
To illustrate your opening example: what are the the chances to achieve a target number of 19 (wish, 9th level spell) using help from this answer and assuming an Intelligence score of 16 (+3 bonus) for our 1st level wizard.
Unmodified: the wizard has a 25% chance to succeed on that DC 19 ability check. (Needs to roll a 16 or higher).
With advantage, 1st level wizard has to roll a 16 or better: 43.75% chance.
- With guidance, an increase of 1-4, the range needed to roll is from
15-12: 51% to 69.75% chance to succeed.
Add in a 1d6 of bardic inspiration to guidance, and the odds get very good. Those two dice will add between 2 and 10 to the roll. With advantage between 57.75% chance to 93.75% chance (Roll a 6 (best case) through a 14 (worst case) to succeed).
The first level Wizard can expect to succeed roughly 4 times out of 5 when combining guidance and bardic inspiration with advantage. The average of 1d4 is 2.5; the average of 1d6 is 3.5, for a rough combined "average" of 6 for simplicity's sake; the Wizard needs to roll a 10 or better, with advantage: 79.75%. Close enough to 4/5 for these purposes. Or, 78.71% using anydice for the whole best-of-2d20 + d4 + d6 + 3 roll (thanks @KamilDrakari)
For your mid-level case: it depends
a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration. Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
You can use the same process I outlined above, modified by whatever magic items, spells, and class features that you have at hand to boost the result of that roll. Whatever increases your generic INT Ability check roll results, or boosts your INT bonus (INT 20 = +5 bonus), will increase your chances of success.
If the spell on the scroll is on the Bard spell list, or your scenario unique spell is one a Bard is eligible to cast, Jack-of-All-Trades helps the Bard to read the spell from the high level spell since it is an ability check. At 9th level, with proficiency bonus of +4, that's +2 that can't be gotten in another way.
Starting at 2nd level, you can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any ability check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus. (emphasis mine. Thanks to @E.Downer for the tip; even though your unique case specifies mid-level conjuration Wizard).
Portent Deserves Special Mention
Divination school's Portent class feature is a huge benefit since you know the result ahead of time. If you already know the die roll, you can adjust up from that result, if needed.
When you finish a Long Rest, roll two d20s and record the numbers rolled. You can replace any Attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made by you or a creature that you can see with one of these foretelling rolls. You must choose to do so before the roll, and you can replace a roll in this way only once per turn. (PHB, Divination, level 2 class feature).
Let's say that your mid level wizard has a 20 Int at level 8. Portent rolls result in 4 and 11. The Wizard adds 5 to any roll due to Intelligence bonus. Pick the 11: only 3 more points are needed to achieve that 19. Lucky, advantage, inspiration, bardic inspiration, guidance ... get them from somewhere. The sources are varied with group composition and items at hand. Any item that increases the Intelligence modifier or allows a boost to a roll will increase the chances of success.
It's all or nothing! We get one shot at this! ("Superadvantage"-Lucky Feat)
You'll want the Lucky feat, and another source of advantage (the enhance ability spell or an Inspiration point grant that) to get Lucky's super advantage. That's where you get to roll 3d20, not 2d20, and add all of the bonuses from your other sources to the best roll.
The curious case of the disadvantage and Lucky
If the character has the Lucky feat, there is a way to turn disadvantage into super advantage with that feat. Details here. For example, the wizard could find a way to accrue a level of exhaustion, which gives disadvantage on ability checks, and making the attempt with lucky grants super advantage as above. This is an odd quirk in the lucky feat.
LUCKY
For example, if you have disadvantage on your attack roll, you could
spend a luck point, roll a third d20, and then decide which of the
three dice to use. You still have disadvantage, since the feat doesn’t
say it gets rid of it, but you do get to pick the die.
There has since been a tweet from Jeremy Crawford that he's changed his mind, but that text is still up at the WoTC web site, the errata to the PHB shows no change to the feat, and the published Sage ADvice Compendium, 2017, retains the above text. Before trying this, work with your DM; if you are DM discuss this with your players ahead of time if one of them has the Lucky feat. Arrive at a ruling that makes sense for your table. (Thanks to @AntiDrondert for the reminder).
answered Dec 4 '18 at 15:06
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The simplest way is to ask for guidance or use inspiration
A druid or cleric in the party (or a character with guidance due to Magic Initiate Feat) can use the guidance cantrip to boost the DC check by 1d4. I will confine my answer to your simpler example, though you can see how it might work in more complicated situations.
From what I understand, even a level 1 Wizard can try to read a wish scroll. But how can an adventurer increase their likelihood of doing so?
The problem: you don't want to waste the spell on the scroll
If the spell is on your class’s spell list but of a higher level than you can normally cast, you must make an ability check using your spellcasting ability to determine whether you cast it successfully. The DC equals 10 + the spell’s level. On a failed check, the spell disappears from the scroll with no other effect. (SRD, p. 232, spell scroll, bolding mine)
Seek sources of advantage for the roll
If another character is available with the enhance ability spell (3rd level character or higher, 2d level spell) then casting that on the Wizard before the attempt will help.
Fox’s Cunning. The target has advantage on Intelligence checks.
A point of inspiration, if the Wizard has one, is another source of advantage.
If you have inspiration, you can expend it when you make an ... ability check. Spending your inspiration gives you advantage on that roll. (Basic Rules, p. 37)
If the Wizard has the lucky feat, that allows for an improved chance on the roll: in the simplest case, advantage by rolling a second d20
Whenever you make an attack roll, an ability check, or a saving throw, you can spend one luck point to roll an additional d20.
As was shown in this answer, advantage improves the chances by 3 or more points, added to that 1d4: guidance plus advantage. Getting Bardic Inspiration rather than guidance to help would add 1d6 at low levels. Why not try and get both?
Bardic Inspiration (so that's why we have a bard in the party ...)
If the party has a bard in it, adding bardic inspiration would boost the 1d4 roll by another 1d6. (At lower levels. As levels go up, the benefit increases: d8 at 5th; d10 at 10th; d12; at 15th and higher). Granted, at that point the Wizard in question is going to have a higher Int bonus already.
As you can see, the answer for a given situation and a given spell DC will depend on the party's make up, in terms of how many other bonuses one can add to the d20 roll.
The surest way is with Divination School's Portent (if available)
If the wizard takes the Divination School at second level, the class feature Portent may be a huge boon here, but it depends on what die rolls are being held for the occasion. (see below)
Example problem: 4 out of 5 times guidance + bardic inspiration succeeds.
To illustrate your opening example: what are the the chances to achieve a target number of 19 (wish, 9th level spell) using help from this answer and assuming an Intelligence score of 16 (+3 bonus) for our 1st level wizard.
Unmodified: the wizard has a 25% chance to succeed on that DC 19 ability check. (Needs to roll a 16 or higher).
With advantage, 1st level wizard has to roll a 16 or better: 43.75% chance.
- With guidance, an increase of 1-4, the range needed to roll is from
15-12: 51% to 69.75% chance to succeed.
Add in a 1d6 of bardic inspiration to guidance, and the odds get very good. Those two dice will add between 2 and 10 to the roll. With advantage between 57.75% chance to 93.75% chance (Roll a 6 (best case) through a 14 (worst case) to succeed).
The first level Wizard can expect to succeed roughly 4 times out of 5 when combining guidance and bardic inspiration with advantage. The average of 1d4 is 2.5; the average of 1d6 is 3.5, for a rough combined "average" of 6 for simplicity's sake; the Wizard needs to roll a 10 or better, with advantage: 79.75%. Close enough to 4/5 for these purposes. Or, 78.71% using anydice for the whole best-of-2d20 + d4 + d6 + 3 roll (thanks @KamilDrakari)
For your mid-level case: it depends
a mid-tier conjuration wizard attempting to cast some sort of high level spell via spell scroll, although the school of magic they follow does not have to be conjuration. Class features, spells and magic items are of most interest, although the wizard does not have to be by himself.
You can use the same process I outlined above, modified by whatever magic items, spells, and class features that you have at hand to boost the result of that roll. Whatever increases your generic INT Ability check roll results, or boosts your INT bonus (INT 20 = +5 bonus), will increase your chances of success.
If the spell on the scroll is on the Bard spell list, or your scenario unique spell is one a Bard is eligible to cast, Jack-of-All-Trades helps the Bard to read the spell from the high level spell since it is an ability check. At 9th level, with proficiency bonus of +4, that's +2 that can't be gotten in another way.
Starting at 2nd level, you can add half your proficiency bonus, rounded down, to any ability check you make that doesn’t already include your proficiency bonus. (emphasis mine. Thanks to @E.Downer for the tip; even though your unique case specifies mid-level conjuration Wizard).
Portent Deserves Special Mention
Divination school's Portent class feature is a huge benefit since you know the result ahead of time. If you already know the die roll, you can adjust up from that result, if needed.
When you finish a Long Rest, roll two d20s and record the numbers rolled. You can replace any Attack roll, saving throw, or ability check made by you or a creature that you can see with one of these foretelling rolls. You must choose to do so before the roll, and you can replace a roll in this way only once per turn. (PHB, Divination, level 2 class feature).
Let's say that your mid level wizard has a 20 Int at level 8. Portent rolls result in 4 and 11. The Wizard adds 5 to any roll due to Intelligence bonus. Pick the 11: only 3 more points are needed to achieve that 19. Lucky, advantage, inspiration, bardic inspiration, guidance ... get them from somewhere. The sources are varied with group composition and items at hand. Any item that increases the Intelligence modifier or allows a boost to a roll will increase the chances of success.
It's all or nothing! We get one shot at this! ("Superadvantage"-Lucky Feat)
You'll want the Lucky feat, and another source of advantage (the enhance ability spell or an Inspiration point grant that) to get Lucky's super advantage. That's where you get to roll 3d20, not 2d20, and add all of the bonuses from your other sources to the best roll.
The curious case of the disadvantage and Lucky
If the character has the Lucky feat, there is a way to turn disadvantage into super advantage with that feat. Details here. For example, the wizard could find a way to accrue a level of exhaustion, which gives disadvantage on ability checks, and making the attempt with lucky grants super advantage as above. This is an odd quirk in the lucky feat.
LUCKY
For example, if you have disadvantage on your attack roll, you could
spend a luck point, roll a third d20, and then decide which of the
three dice to use. You still have disadvantage, since the feat doesn’t
say it gets rid of it, but you do get to pick the die.
There has since been a tweet from Jeremy Crawford that he's changed his mind, but that text is still up at the WoTC web site, the errata to the PHB shows no change to the feat, and the published Sage ADvice Compendium, 2017, retains the above text. Before trying this, work with your DM; if you are DM discuss this with your players ahead of time if one of them has the Lucky feat. Arrive at a ruling that makes sense for your table. (Thanks to @AntiDrondert for the reminder).
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I am voting to close as too broad as listing any and all ways to boost an ability check is way too long a list.
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– Szega
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Ruling out any method that is a general way of improving ability checks and limiting to methods specific to this purpose. But frankly I am not sure where to draw the line. You may be better off looking for that list somewhere on the net. Another option is to make the situation you are trying to solve more specific (list level, resources, etc).
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I don't think that it is too broad. Class features, spells, and magic items are basically the only things that can help and plently of questions have involved browsing these three categories. Perhaps it would help to explicitly limit the question to those three categories.
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@Ruse while I'm not sure at all that I agree with this being too broad (I'm actually inclined against closing at the moment), but I'm also not sure that this would fix anything. It seems to me that "Class features, spells, and magic items" are already going to be the bulk of the answers so it isn't much of a limit.
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How cheesy do you accept the answers? I can come up with a way for this wizard to basically be guaranteed to read any wizard spell scroll regardless of level, but it involves some insane junk that no sane DM is going to let you get away with.
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