Find a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.












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Find a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.




I used the following facts:





  1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, so a tower of fields is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}) subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$.

  2. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^{2}-2$, so $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}]=2$.

  3. Simple extension of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})(sqrt{5})$.

  4. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $x^{2}-5$. Then $[mathbb{Q}sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})]=2$.


Therefore, $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]=4$ and a basis is $left { 1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}right }$.



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    The inclusion $mathbb{Q}[sqrt{5}] subseteq mathbb{Q}[sqrt{2}]$ is not true.
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    Your conclusion is also false (in fact you've written down a $Bbb Q$-basis for $Bbb Q(sqrt{2}, sqrt{5})$)
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    @ÍgjøgnumMeg I see. I apologize for my elementary knowledge on this. How do I approach such a problem then?
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    Dec 2 '18 at 18:14






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    @numericalorange As I see it, you need to show that $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ is not the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, but is the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. Then the obvious basis will work; ${1,sqrt{2}}$.
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Find a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.




I used the following facts:





  1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, so a tower of fields is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}) subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$.

  2. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^{2}-2$, so $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}]=2$.

  3. Simple extension of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})(sqrt{5})$.

  4. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $x^{2}-5$. Then $[mathbb{Q}sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})]=2$.


Therefore, $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]=4$ and a basis is $left { 1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}right }$.



Are these facts valid though?










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    The inclusion $mathbb{Q}[sqrt{5}] subseteq mathbb{Q}[sqrt{2}]$ is not true.
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    – Dante Grevino
    Dec 2 '18 at 17:57








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    Your conclusion is also false (in fact you've written down a $Bbb Q$-basis for $Bbb Q(sqrt{2}, sqrt{5})$)
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    – ÍgjøgnumMeg
    Dec 2 '18 at 18:08










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    @ÍgjøgnumMeg I see. I apologize for my elementary knowledge on this. How do I approach such a problem then?
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    – numericalorange
    Dec 2 '18 at 18:14






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    @numericalorange As I see it, you need to show that $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ is not the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, but is the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. Then the obvious basis will work; ${1,sqrt{2}}$.
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    Dec 2 '18 at 18:16
















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Find a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.




I used the following facts:





  1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, so a tower of fields is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}) subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$.

  2. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^{2}-2$, so $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}]=2$.

  3. Simple extension of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})(sqrt{5})$.

  4. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $x^{2}-5$. Then $[mathbb{Q}sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})]=2$.


Therefore, $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]=4$ and a basis is $left { 1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}right }$.



Are these facts valid though?










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Find a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.




I used the following facts:





  1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, so a tower of fields is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}) subset mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$.

  2. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^{2}-2$, so $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}]=2$.

  3. Simple extension of $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})(sqrt{5})$.

  4. Minimal polynomial for $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})$ is $x^{2}-5$. Then $[mathbb{Q}sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})]=2$.


Therefore, $[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]=4$ and a basis is $left { 1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}right }$.



Are these facts valid though?







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    The inclusion $mathbb{Q}[sqrt{5}] subseteq mathbb{Q}[sqrt{2}]$ is not true.
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    Dec 2 '18 at 17:57








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    Your conclusion is also false (in fact you've written down a $Bbb Q$-basis for $Bbb Q(sqrt{2}, sqrt{5})$)
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    – ÍgjøgnumMeg
    Dec 2 '18 at 18:08










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    @ÍgjøgnumMeg I see. I apologize for my elementary knowledge on this. How do I approach such a problem then?
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    Dec 2 '18 at 18:14






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    @numericalorange As I see it, you need to show that $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ is not the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, but is the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. Then the obvious basis will work; ${1,sqrt{2}}$.
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    Dec 2 '18 at 18:16
















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    $begingroup$
    The inclusion $mathbb{Q}[sqrt{5}] subseteq mathbb{Q}[sqrt{2}]$ is not true.
    $endgroup$
    – Dante Grevino
    Dec 2 '18 at 17:57








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    $begingroup$
    Your conclusion is also false (in fact you've written down a $Bbb Q$-basis for $Bbb Q(sqrt{2}, sqrt{5})$)
    $endgroup$
    – ÍgjøgnumMeg
    Dec 2 '18 at 18:08










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    @ÍgjøgnumMeg I see. I apologize for my elementary knowledge on this. How do I approach such a problem then?
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    – numericalorange
    Dec 2 '18 at 18:14






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    @numericalorange As I see it, you need to show that $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ is not the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, but is the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. Then the obvious basis will work; ${1,sqrt{2}}$.
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    Dec 2 '18 at 18:16










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The inclusion $mathbb{Q}[sqrt{5}] subseteq mathbb{Q}[sqrt{2}]$ is not true.
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– Dante Grevino
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The inclusion $mathbb{Q}[sqrt{5}] subseteq mathbb{Q}[sqrt{2}]$ is not true.
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– Dante Grevino
Dec 2 '18 at 17:57






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Your conclusion is also false (in fact you've written down a $Bbb Q$-basis for $Bbb Q(sqrt{2}, sqrt{5})$)
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$begingroup$
Your conclusion is also false (in fact you've written down a $Bbb Q$-basis for $Bbb Q(sqrt{2}, sqrt{5})$)
$endgroup$
– ÍgjøgnumMeg
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@ÍgjøgnumMeg I see. I apologize for my elementary knowledge on this. How do I approach such a problem then?
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– numericalorange
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@ÍgjøgnumMeg I see. I apologize for my elementary knowledge on this. How do I approach such a problem then?
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Dec 2 '18 at 18:14




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@numericalorange As I see it, you need to show that $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ is not the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, but is the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. Then the obvious basis will work; ${1,sqrt{2}}$.
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@numericalorange As I see it, you need to show that $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$ is not the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, but is the same as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. Then the obvious basis will work; ${1,sqrt{2}}$.
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There is no such tower of subfields as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, because the leftmost inclusion doesn't hold.



You should instead consider $mathbb{Q}subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. However, you claim that the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^2-2$ without proving it. Once you prove it, together with the fact that $x^2-5$ is the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}$, you get
$$
[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=
[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]
[mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=2cdot2=4
$$



So your proof jumps over two facts:





  1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$;


  2. $x^2-2$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.


Both facts can be easily proved.



Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. On the other hand
$$
frac{1}{sqrt{5}+sqrt{2}}=frac{sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}}{3}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})
$$

so also $sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. Hence $sqrt{2}$ and $sqrt{5}$ both belong to $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. This proves the reverse inclusion.



The polynomial $x^2-2$ has no root in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, hence it is irreducible (having degree $2$). Indeed, if
$$
(a+bsqrt{5},)^2=2
$$

we obtain $a^2+5b^2=2$ and $2ab=0$. This is a contradiction.



Therefore ${1,sqrt{2}}$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, which in turn has basis ${1,sqrt{5}}$ over $mathbb{Q}$.



The standard proof of the dimension theorem tells us that
$$
{1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{2}sqrt{5}}={1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}}
$$

is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}$.






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    Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$. Since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ is a field, the inverse of $sqrt2 + sqrt5$ must be in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ i.e.



    $$frac{1}{sqrt2 + sqrt5} = frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3} in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$$



    Then $sqrt5 = frac{3}{2}(frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3}) + frac{1}{2}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and similarly you can check that $sqrt2 in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$. Thus, $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.



    Now you know that ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2)$ over $mathbb{Q}$ and ${ 1, sqrt5 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}$. Then, as you stated, $x^2 -2$ is the minimal polynomial for $sqrt2$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ is an extension field of degree 2 over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$. Hence a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ is ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ since $sqrt2 notin mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and it is clear that it is also a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.






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      $Let$ $x=√2+√5$
      $x-√5=√2$ $(x-√5)^2=(√2)^2$
      $x^2-2√5x+5=2$
      $x^2-2√5x+3=0$

      This polynomial belongs to Q(√5) therefore degree of √2+√5 over Q(√5) is 2. That means basis for Q(√2+√5) over Q(√5) is {1, √2+√5 }.
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        There is no such tower of subfields as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, because the leftmost inclusion doesn't hold.



        You should instead consider $mathbb{Q}subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. However, you claim that the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^2-2$ without proving it. Once you prove it, together with the fact that $x^2-5$ is the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}$, you get
        $$
        [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=
        [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]
        [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=2cdot2=4
        $$



        So your proof jumps over two facts:





        1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$;


        2. $x^2-2$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.


        Both facts can be easily proved.



        Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. On the other hand
        $$
        frac{1}{sqrt{5}+sqrt{2}}=frac{sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}}{3}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})
        $$

        so also $sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. Hence $sqrt{2}$ and $sqrt{5}$ both belong to $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. This proves the reverse inclusion.



        The polynomial $x^2-2$ has no root in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, hence it is irreducible (having degree $2$). Indeed, if
        $$
        (a+bsqrt{5},)^2=2
        $$

        we obtain $a^2+5b^2=2$ and $2ab=0$. This is a contradiction.



        Therefore ${1,sqrt{2}}$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, which in turn has basis ${1,sqrt{5}}$ over $mathbb{Q}$.



        The standard proof of the dimension theorem tells us that
        $$
        {1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{2}sqrt{5}}={1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}}
        $$

        is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}$.






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          There is no such tower of subfields as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, because the leftmost inclusion doesn't hold.



          You should instead consider $mathbb{Q}subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. However, you claim that the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^2-2$ without proving it. Once you prove it, together with the fact that $x^2-5$ is the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}$, you get
          $$
          [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=
          [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]
          [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=2cdot2=4
          $$



          So your proof jumps over two facts:





          1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$;


          2. $x^2-2$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.


          Both facts can be easily proved.



          Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. On the other hand
          $$
          frac{1}{sqrt{5}+sqrt{2}}=frac{sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}}{3}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})
          $$

          so also $sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. Hence $sqrt{2}$ and $sqrt{5}$ both belong to $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. This proves the reverse inclusion.



          The polynomial $x^2-2$ has no root in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, hence it is irreducible (having degree $2$). Indeed, if
          $$
          (a+bsqrt{5},)^2=2
          $$

          we obtain $a^2+5b^2=2$ and $2ab=0$. This is a contradiction.



          Therefore ${1,sqrt{2}}$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, which in turn has basis ${1,sqrt{5}}$ over $mathbb{Q}$.



          The standard proof of the dimension theorem tells us that
          $$
          {1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{2}sqrt{5}}={1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}}
          $$

          is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}$.






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            There is no such tower of subfields as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, because the leftmost inclusion doesn't hold.



            You should instead consider $mathbb{Q}subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. However, you claim that the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^2-2$ without proving it. Once you prove it, together with the fact that $x^2-5$ is the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}$, you get
            $$
            [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=
            [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]
            [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=2cdot2=4
            $$



            So your proof jumps over two facts:





            1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$;


            2. $x^2-2$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.


            Both facts can be easily proved.



            Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. On the other hand
            $$
            frac{1}{sqrt{5}+sqrt{2}}=frac{sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}}{3}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})
            $$

            so also $sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. Hence $sqrt{2}$ and $sqrt{5}$ both belong to $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. This proves the reverse inclusion.



            The polynomial $x^2-2$ has no root in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, hence it is irreducible (having degree $2$). Indeed, if
            $$
            (a+bsqrt{5},)^2=2
            $$

            we obtain $a^2+5b^2=2$ and $2ab=0$. This is a contradiction.



            Therefore ${1,sqrt{2}}$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, which in turn has basis ${1,sqrt{5}}$ over $mathbb{Q}$.



            The standard proof of the dimension theorem tells us that
            $$
            {1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{2}sqrt{5}}={1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}}
            $$

            is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}$.






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            There is no such tower of subfields as $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$, because the leftmost inclusion doesn't hold.



            You should instead consider $mathbb{Q}subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. However, you claim that the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{2}$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$ is $x^2-2$ without proving it. Once you prove it, together with the fact that $x^2-5$ is the minimal polynomial of $sqrt{5}$ over $mathbb{Q}$, you get
            $$
            [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=
            [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})]
            [mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5}):mathbb{Q}]=2cdot2=4
            $$



            So your proof jumps over two facts:





            1. $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})=mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$;


            2. $x^2-2$ is irreducible over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$.


            Both facts can be easily proved.



            Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})subsetmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$. On the other hand
            $$
            frac{1}{sqrt{5}+sqrt{2}}=frac{sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}}{3}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})
            $$

            so also $sqrt{5}-sqrt{2}inmathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. Hence $sqrt{2}$ and $sqrt{5}$ both belong to $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})$. This proves the reverse inclusion.



            The polynomial $x^2-2$ has no root in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, hence it is irreducible (having degree $2$). Indeed, if
            $$
            (a+bsqrt{5},)^2=2
            $$

            we obtain $a^2+5b^2=2$ and $2ab=0$. This is a contradiction.



            Therefore ${1,sqrt{2}}$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{5})$, which in turn has basis ${1,sqrt{5}}$ over $mathbb{Q}$.



            The standard proof of the dimension theorem tells us that
            $$
            {1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{2}sqrt{5}}={1,sqrt{2},sqrt{5},sqrt{10}}
            $$

            is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt{2},sqrt{5})$ over $mathbb{Q}$.







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                Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$. Since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ is a field, the inverse of $sqrt2 + sqrt5$ must be in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ i.e.



                $$frac{1}{sqrt2 + sqrt5} = frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3} in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$$



                Then $sqrt5 = frac{3}{2}(frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3}) + frac{1}{2}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and similarly you can check that $sqrt2 in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$. Thus, $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.



                Now you know that ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2)$ over $mathbb{Q}$ and ${ 1, sqrt5 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}$. Then, as you stated, $x^2 -2$ is the minimal polynomial for $sqrt2$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ is an extension field of degree 2 over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$. Hence a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ is ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ since $sqrt2 notin mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and it is clear that it is also a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.






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                  Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$. Since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ is a field, the inverse of $sqrt2 + sqrt5$ must be in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ i.e.



                  $$frac{1}{sqrt2 + sqrt5} = frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3} in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$$



                  Then $sqrt5 = frac{3}{2}(frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3}) + frac{1}{2}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and similarly you can check that $sqrt2 in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$. Thus, $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.



                  Now you know that ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2)$ over $mathbb{Q}$ and ${ 1, sqrt5 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}$. Then, as you stated, $x^2 -2$ is the minimal polynomial for $sqrt2$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ is an extension field of degree 2 over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$. Hence a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ is ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ since $sqrt2 notin mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and it is clear that it is also a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.






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                    Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$. Since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ is a field, the inverse of $sqrt2 + sqrt5$ must be in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ i.e.



                    $$frac{1}{sqrt2 + sqrt5} = frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3} in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$$



                    Then $sqrt5 = frac{3}{2}(frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3}) + frac{1}{2}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and similarly you can check that $sqrt2 in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$. Thus, $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.



                    Now you know that ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2)$ over $mathbb{Q}$ and ${ 1, sqrt5 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}$. Then, as you stated, $x^2 -2$ is the minimal polynomial for $sqrt2$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ is an extension field of degree 2 over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$. Hence a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ is ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ since $sqrt2 notin mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and it is clear that it is also a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.






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                    Clearly $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$. Since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ is a field, the inverse of $sqrt2 + sqrt5$ must be in $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ i.e.



                    $$frac{1}{sqrt2 + sqrt5} = frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3} in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$$



                    Then $sqrt5 = frac{3}{2}(frac{sqrt5 - sqrt2}{3}) + frac{1}{2}(sqrt2 + sqrt5) in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and similarly you can check that $sqrt2 in mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$. Thus, $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) subseteq mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.



                    Now you know that ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2)$ over $mathbb{Q}$ and ${ 1, sqrt5 }$ is a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}$. Then, as you stated, $x^2 -2$ is the minimal polynomial for $sqrt2$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and hence $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ is an extension field of degree 2 over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$. Hence a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ is ${ 1, sqrt2 }$ since $sqrt2 notin mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ and it is clear that it is also a basis for $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$ over $mathbb{Q}(sqrt5)$ since $mathbb{Q}(sqrt2, sqrt5) = mathbb{Q}(sqrt2 + sqrt5)$.







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                        $Let$ $x=√2+√5$
                        $x-√5=√2$ $(x-√5)^2=(√2)^2$
                        $x^2-2√5x+5=2$
                        $x^2-2√5x+3=0$

                        This polynomial belongs to Q(√5) therefore degree of √2+√5 over Q(√5) is 2. That means basis for Q(√2+√5) over Q(√5) is {1, √2+√5 }.
                        Am I right?






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                          $Let$ $x=√2+√5$
                          $x-√5=√2$ $(x-√5)^2=(√2)^2$
                          $x^2-2√5x+5=2$
                          $x^2-2√5x+3=0$

                          This polynomial belongs to Q(√5) therefore degree of √2+√5 over Q(√5) is 2. That means basis for Q(√2+√5) over Q(√5) is {1, √2+√5 }.
                          Am I right?






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                            $begingroup$

                            $Let$ $x=√2+√5$
                            $x-√5=√2$ $(x-√5)^2=(√2)^2$
                            $x^2-2√5x+5=2$
                            $x^2-2√5x+3=0$

                            This polynomial belongs to Q(√5) therefore degree of √2+√5 over Q(√5) is 2. That means basis for Q(√2+√5) over Q(√5) is {1, √2+√5 }.
                            Am I right?






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                            $Let$ $x=√2+√5$
                            $x-√5=√2$ $(x-√5)^2=(√2)^2$
                            $x^2-2√5x+5=2$
                            $x^2-2√5x+3=0$

                            This polynomial belongs to Q(√5) therefore degree of √2+√5 over Q(√5) is 2. That means basis for Q(√2+√5) over Q(√5) is {1, √2+√5 }.
                            Am I right?







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