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In Knecht Ruprecht's cellar are six sealed bottles, all of which look the same. Three of the bottles contain good cider and the other three bottles contain highly poisonous lentil juice. Ruprecht's Magic Cider Test Machine (MCTM) has three compartments, a large button and a light bulb. If you place a bottle in each of the three compartments and then press the button, the MCTM starts to work. An hour later, the light bulb turns red or green: If it lights green, all three bottles contain good cider. If it shines red, not more than two bottles contain cider.



Knecht Ruprecht wants to give Santa Claus a bottle of cider. How often does he have to use the MCTM in the worst case to identify a guaranteed bottle of cider?










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    What does this have to do with probability?
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    You have to find the number of times you need to identify a bottle of cider in the worst case, right? I don't see why you need probability.
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In Knecht Ruprecht's cellar are six sealed bottles, all of which look the same. Three of the bottles contain good cider and the other three bottles contain highly poisonous lentil juice. Ruprecht's Magic Cider Test Machine (MCTM) has three compartments, a large button and a light bulb. If you place a bottle in each of the three compartments and then press the button, the MCTM starts to work. An hour later, the light bulb turns red or green: If it lights green, all three bottles contain good cider. If it shines red, not more than two bottles contain cider.



Knecht Ruprecht wants to give Santa Claus a bottle of cider. How often does he have to use the MCTM in the worst case to identify a guaranteed bottle of cider?










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closed as off-topic by Jean-Claude Arbaut, NCh, Leucippus, DRF, Cesareo Dec 3 '18 at 10:09


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  • "This question is missing context or other details: Please improve the question by providing additional context, which ideally includes your thoughts on the problem and any attempts you have made to solve it. This information helps others identify where you have difficulties and helps them write answers appropriate to your experience level." – Jean-Claude Arbaut, NCh, Leucippus, DRF, Cesareo

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    What does this have to do with probability?
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    You have to find the number of times you need to identify a bottle of cider in the worst case, right? I don't see why you need probability.
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    – Boshu
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10






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In Knecht Ruprecht's cellar are six sealed bottles, all of which look the same. Three of the bottles contain good cider and the other three bottles contain highly poisonous lentil juice. Ruprecht's Magic Cider Test Machine (MCTM) has three compartments, a large button and a light bulb. If you place a bottle in each of the three compartments and then press the button, the MCTM starts to work. An hour later, the light bulb turns red or green: If it lights green, all three bottles contain good cider. If it shines red, not more than two bottles contain cider.



Knecht Ruprecht wants to give Santa Claus a bottle of cider. How often does he have to use the MCTM in the worst case to identify a guaranteed bottle of cider?










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In Knecht Ruprecht's cellar are six sealed bottles, all of which look the same. Three of the bottles contain good cider and the other three bottles contain highly poisonous lentil juice. Ruprecht's Magic Cider Test Machine (MCTM) has three compartments, a large button and a light bulb. If you place a bottle in each of the three compartments and then press the button, the MCTM starts to work. An hour later, the light bulb turns red or green: If it lights green, all three bottles contain good cider. If it shines red, not more than two bottles contain cider.



Knecht Ruprecht wants to give Santa Claus a bottle of cider. How often does he have to use the MCTM in the worst case to identify a guaranteed bottle of cider?







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closed as off-topic by Jean-Claude Arbaut, NCh, Leucippus, DRF, Cesareo Dec 3 '18 at 10:09


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closed as off-topic by Jean-Claude Arbaut, NCh, Leucippus, DRF, Cesareo Dec 3 '18 at 10:09


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  • "This question is missing context or other details: Please improve the question by providing additional context, which ideally includes your thoughts on the problem and any attempts you have made to solve it. This information helps others identify where you have difficulties and helps them write answers appropriate to your experience level." – Jean-Claude Arbaut, NCh, Leucippus, DRF, Cesareo

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    What does this have to do with probability?
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    – saulspatz
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    You have to find the number of times you need to identify a bottle of cider in the worst case, right? I don't see why you need probability.
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    – Boshu
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10






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    Did you try anything yourself?
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    – Bram28
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:15














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    $begingroup$
    What does this have to do with probability?
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    – saulspatz
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:07










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    You have to find the number of times you need to identify a bottle of cider in the worst case, right? I don't see why you need probability.
    $endgroup$
    – Boshu
    Dec 2 '18 at 19:10






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    Did you try anything yourself?
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    – Bram28
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What does this have to do with probability?
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– saulspatz
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$begingroup$
What does this have to do with probability?
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– saulspatz
Dec 2 '18 at 19:07












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You have to find the number of times you need to identify a bottle of cider in the worst case, right? I don't see why you need probability.
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– Boshu
Dec 2 '18 at 19:10




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You have to find the number of times you need to identify a bottle of cider in the worst case, right? I don't see why you need probability.
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– Boshu
Dec 2 '18 at 19:10




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Did you try anything yourself?
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I couldn't improve on ${6 choose 3}-1=19$. You don't have to try the last combination because if you haven't found the three good ones yet it must be that.






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    I couldn't improve on ${6 choose 3}-1=19$. You don't have to try the last combination because if you haven't found the three good ones yet it must be that.






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      I couldn't improve on ${6 choose 3}-1=19$. You don't have to try the last combination because if you haven't found the three good ones yet it must be that.






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        I couldn't improve on ${6 choose 3}-1=19$. You don't have to try the last combination because if you haven't found the three good ones yet it must be that.






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        I couldn't improve on ${6 choose 3}-1=19$. You don't have to try the last combination because if you haven't found the three good ones yet it must be that.







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