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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$



$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$



But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$



Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.



Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $










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  • $n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
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    You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
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  • These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$



$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$



But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$



Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.



Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $










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  • $n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
    – user254433
    Nov 18 at 23:19






  • 1




    You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
    – Winther
    Nov 18 at 23:21












  • These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
    – JavaMan
    Nov 19 at 3:02













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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$



$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$



But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$



Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.



Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $










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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$



$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$



But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$



Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.



Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $







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  • $n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
    – user254433
    Nov 18 at 23:19






  • 1




    You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
    – Winther
    Nov 18 at 23:21












  • These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
    – JavaMan
    Nov 19 at 3:02


















  • $n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
    – user254433
    Nov 18 at 23:19






  • 1




    You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
    – Winther
    Nov 18 at 23:21












  • These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
    – JavaMan
    Nov 19 at 3:02
















$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19




$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19




1




1




You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21






You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21














These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02




These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02










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Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually



$$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$



and




  • $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$

  • $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$






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    use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.






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      You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.



      $$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
      $$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
      left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$
      Continuing with Taylor
      $$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
      ^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
      ^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$
      which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.






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        Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually



        $$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$



        and




        • $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$

        • $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$






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          Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually



          $$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$



          and




          • $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$

          • $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$






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            Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually



            $$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$



            and




            • $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$

            • $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$






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            Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually



            $$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$



            and




            • $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$

            • $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$







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                use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.






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                    use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.






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                        You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.



                        $$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
                        $$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
                        left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$
                        Continuing with Taylor
                        $$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
                        ^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
                        ^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$
                        which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.






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                          You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.



                          $$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
                          $$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
                          left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$
                          Continuing with Taylor
                          $$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
                          ^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
                          ^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$
                          which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.






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                            You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.



                            $$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
                            $$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
                            left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$
                            Continuing with Taylor
                            $$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
                            ^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
                            ^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$
                            which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.






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                            You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.



                            $$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
                            $$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
                            left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$
                            Continuing with Taylor
                            $$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
                            ^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
                            ^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$
                            which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.







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