If a matrix $Q$ is symmetric and positie definite, is it possible to show that the matrix...
If I have a symmetric and positive definite $ntimes n$ matrix $Q$ and a full row-rank totally unimodular $mtimes n$, where $m<n$, matrix $A$, is it posible to show that the matrix
$$Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
is also positive definite?
I have show that it is true when the matrix $Q$ has dimention $2times 2$, by doing all the posible situations. Also, If $m=n$, I have that the matrix $Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ can be zero.
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If I have a symmetric and positive definite $ntimes n$ matrix $Q$ and a full row-rank totally unimodular $mtimes n$, where $m<n$, matrix $A$, is it posible to show that the matrix
$$Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
is also positive definite?
I have show that it is true when the matrix $Q$ has dimention $2times 2$, by doing all the posible situations. Also, If $m=n$, I have that the matrix $Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ can be zero.
positive-definite positive-semidefinite
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If I have a symmetric and positive definite $ntimes n$ matrix $Q$ and a full row-rank totally unimodular $mtimes n$, where $m<n$, matrix $A$, is it posible to show that the matrix
$$Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
is also positive definite?
I have show that it is true when the matrix $Q$ has dimention $2times 2$, by doing all the posible situations. Also, If $m=n$, I have that the matrix $Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ can be zero.
positive-definite positive-semidefinite
If I have a symmetric and positive definite $ntimes n$ matrix $Q$ and a full row-rank totally unimodular $mtimes n$, where $m<n$, matrix $A$, is it posible to show that the matrix
$$Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
is also positive definite?
I have show that it is true when the matrix $Q$ has dimention $2times 2$, by doing all the posible situations. Also, If $m=n$, I have that the matrix $Q-A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ can be zero.
positive-definite positive-semidefinite
positive-definite positive-semidefinite
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The matrix $Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ will generally be positive semidefinite. Let
$$M/Q : = Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
and note that $M/Q$ is the lower Schur complement of the block matrix
$$
M=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Since $Q$ is positive definite, it follows that $Q^{-1}$ is positive definite and that $Q^{1/2}$ exists. Furthermore $(Q^{-1})^{1/2}$ exists, hence let $Q^{-1/2} := (Q^{-1})^{1/2}.$ Note that
$$
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1/2} \
Q^{1/2}\
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
Q^{-1/2}A^T & Q^{1/2} \
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Therefore $M$ is positive semidefinite. Since $M$ is positive semidefinite, so too is its lower Schur complement.
Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
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The matrix $Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ will generally be positive semidefinite. Let
$$M/Q : = Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
and note that $M/Q$ is the lower Schur complement of the block matrix
$$
M=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Since $Q$ is positive definite, it follows that $Q^{-1}$ is positive definite and that $Q^{1/2}$ exists. Furthermore $(Q^{-1})^{1/2}$ exists, hence let $Q^{-1/2} := (Q^{-1})^{1/2}.$ Note that
$$
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1/2} \
Q^{1/2}\
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
Q^{-1/2}A^T & Q^{1/2} \
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Therefore $M$ is positive semidefinite. Since $M$ is positive semidefinite, so too is its lower Schur complement.
Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
|
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The matrix $Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ will generally be positive semidefinite. Let
$$M/Q : = Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
and note that $M/Q$ is the lower Schur complement of the block matrix
$$
M=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Since $Q$ is positive definite, it follows that $Q^{-1}$ is positive definite and that $Q^{1/2}$ exists. Furthermore $(Q^{-1})^{1/2}$ exists, hence let $Q^{-1/2} := (Q^{-1})^{1/2}.$ Note that
$$
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1/2} \
Q^{1/2}\
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
Q^{-1/2}A^T & Q^{1/2} \
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Therefore $M$ is positive semidefinite. Since $M$ is positive semidefinite, so too is its lower Schur complement.
Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
|
show 6 more comments
The matrix $Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ will generally be positive semidefinite. Let
$$M/Q : = Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
and note that $M/Q$ is the lower Schur complement of the block matrix
$$
M=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Since $Q$ is positive definite, it follows that $Q^{-1}$ is positive definite and that $Q^{1/2}$ exists. Furthermore $(Q^{-1})^{1/2}$ exists, hence let $Q^{-1/2} := (Q^{-1})^{1/2}.$ Note that
$$
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1/2} \
Q^{1/2}\
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
Q^{-1/2}A^T & Q^{1/2} \
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Therefore $M$ is positive semidefinite. Since $M$ is positive semidefinite, so too is its lower Schur complement.
The matrix $Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$ will generally be positive semidefinite. Let
$$M/Q : = Q - A^T(AQ^{-1}A^T)^{-1}A$$
and note that $M/Q$ is the lower Schur complement of the block matrix
$$
M=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Since $Q$ is positive definite, it follows that $Q^{-1}$ is positive definite and that $Q^{1/2}$ exists. Furthermore $(Q^{-1})^{1/2}$ exists, hence let $Q^{-1/2} := (Q^{-1})^{1/2}.$ Note that
$$
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1}A^T & A \
A^T & Q\
end{bmatrix}
=
begin{bmatrix}
AQ^{-1/2} \
Q^{1/2}\
end{bmatrix}
begin{bmatrix}
Q^{-1/2}A^T & Q^{1/2} \
end{bmatrix}.
$$
Therefore $M$ is positive semidefinite. Since $M$ is positive semidefinite, so too is its lower Schur complement.
edited Nov 26 at 21:09
answered Nov 26 at 19:55
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Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
|
show 6 more comments
Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
Why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive definite?
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:03
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
@Omnomnomnom you're right; it should be positive SEMIdefinite.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:05
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
then why does $Q^{-1}$ being positive definite imply that $M$ is positive semi-definite? Still don't see it.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:07
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
@Omnomnomnom thank you for your comment. I've tried to add more detail.
– SZN
Nov 26 at 20:27
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
for non-symmetric matrices, non-negative eigenvalues alone do not imply that the matrix is positive definite.
– Omnomnomnom
Nov 26 at 20:44
|
show 6 more comments
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