Finding angular displacement from displacement vectors












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I apologise in advance if the question is not clear. Suppose I have 4 points on the X-Y plane. Their relative positions with respect to each other are fixed. So any 2 points will have a fixed distance away from each other. In a short time interval, the X-Y plane undergoes a small rotation about a certain unknown point resulting in the displacement of the 4 points as shown in the image attached. If the displacement vectors of the 4 points are given, is it possible to calculate the angle of rotation of the X-Y plane? The axis of rotation is unknown.An illustration of what I mean can be found here Ideally I wish to find a mathematical expression with the displacement vectors with which i can compute the angular displacement.










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    I apologise in advance if the question is not clear. Suppose I have 4 points on the X-Y plane. Their relative positions with respect to each other are fixed. So any 2 points will have a fixed distance away from each other. In a short time interval, the X-Y plane undergoes a small rotation about a certain unknown point resulting in the displacement of the 4 points as shown in the image attached. If the displacement vectors of the 4 points are given, is it possible to calculate the angle of rotation of the X-Y plane? The axis of rotation is unknown.An illustration of what I mean can be found here Ideally I wish to find a mathematical expression with the displacement vectors with which i can compute the angular displacement.










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      I apologise in advance if the question is not clear. Suppose I have 4 points on the X-Y plane. Their relative positions with respect to each other are fixed. So any 2 points will have a fixed distance away from each other. In a short time interval, the X-Y plane undergoes a small rotation about a certain unknown point resulting in the displacement of the 4 points as shown in the image attached. If the displacement vectors of the 4 points are given, is it possible to calculate the angle of rotation of the X-Y plane? The axis of rotation is unknown.An illustration of what I mean can be found here Ideally I wish to find a mathematical expression with the displacement vectors with which i can compute the angular displacement.










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      I apologise in advance if the question is not clear. Suppose I have 4 points on the X-Y plane. Their relative positions with respect to each other are fixed. So any 2 points will have a fixed distance away from each other. In a short time interval, the X-Y plane undergoes a small rotation about a certain unknown point resulting in the displacement of the 4 points as shown in the image attached. If the displacement vectors of the 4 points are given, is it possible to calculate the angle of rotation of the X-Y plane? The axis of rotation is unknown.An illustration of what I mean can be found here Ideally I wish to find a mathematical expression with the displacement vectors with which i can compute the angular displacement.







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          Hint:



          The center of rotation is the common point of the perpendicular bisectors of the segments from a starting position of a point to the displaced position.



          Use this point as center of a reference frame with an axis that passe thorough one of the points and find the angle of rotation.






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            Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
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            @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
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            YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
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          Hint:



          The center of rotation is the common point of the perpendicular bisectors of the segments from a starting position of a point to the displaced position.



          Use this point as center of a reference frame with an axis that passe thorough one of the points and find the angle of rotation.






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          • $begingroup$
            Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 6 '18 at 15:57










          • $begingroup$
            @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
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            – amd
            Dec 6 '18 at 19:52












          • $begingroup$
            YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 7 '18 at 10:38
















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          Hint:



          The center of rotation is the common point of the perpendicular bisectors of the segments from a starting position of a point to the displaced position.



          Use this point as center of a reference frame with an axis that passe thorough one of the points and find the angle of rotation.






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          • $begingroup$
            Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 6 '18 at 15:57










          • $begingroup$
            @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
            $endgroup$
            – amd
            Dec 6 '18 at 19:52












          • $begingroup$
            YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 7 '18 at 10:38














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          $begingroup$

          Hint:



          The center of rotation is the common point of the perpendicular bisectors of the segments from a starting position of a point to the displaced position.



          Use this point as center of a reference frame with an axis that passe thorough one of the points and find the angle of rotation.






          share|cite|improve this answer











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          Hint:



          The center of rotation is the common point of the perpendicular bisectors of the segments from a starting position of a point to the displaced position.



          Use this point as center of a reference frame with an axis that passe thorough one of the points and find the angle of rotation.







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          • $begingroup$
            Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 6 '18 at 15:57










          • $begingroup$
            @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
            $endgroup$
            – amd
            Dec 6 '18 at 19:52












          • $begingroup$
            YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 7 '18 at 10:38


















          • $begingroup$
            Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 6 '18 at 15:57










          • $begingroup$
            @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
            $endgroup$
            – amd
            Dec 6 '18 at 19:52












          • $begingroup$
            YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
            $endgroup$
            – Appatakardot
            Dec 7 '18 at 10:38
















          $begingroup$
          Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
          $endgroup$
          – Appatakardot
          Dec 6 '18 at 15:57




          $begingroup$
          Could you explain it mathematically? what i am looking for is a mathematical expression which would help me solve for the angle
          $endgroup$
          – Appatakardot
          Dec 6 '18 at 15:57












          $begingroup$
          @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
          $endgroup$
          – amd
          Dec 6 '18 at 19:52






          $begingroup$
          @Appatakardot I’ll just add that If you’re working with real-world noisy data and imprecise computations instead of mathematical ideals, then it’s quite likely that these bisectors won’t all meet in a single point, so you’ll have to estimate this intersection in some way.
          $endgroup$
          – amd
          Dec 6 '18 at 19:52














          $begingroup$
          YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
          $endgroup$
          – Appatakardot
          Dec 7 '18 at 10:38




          $begingroup$
          YES. I am working with real-world data which is why i am not satisfied with any of the responses i have received so far. If you have a suggestion on how i can approximate the angular displacement as accurately as possible. please indicate here
          $endgroup$
          – Appatakardot
          Dec 7 '18 at 10:38


















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