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$11$ cards each bear a letter, and together they can be made to spell the word "EXAMINATION". $3$ Cards are selected from the $11$ cards and the order of selection is not important. Find how many selections can be made if $2$ cards of the $3$ cards bear the same letter.



My approach.



I grouped the same letter together in a group and single letter is another group.



E X A M I N T O



AA II NN



This shows I got $8$ separate groups of different letters.



Now I understand I need cards from A, I or N first. So I need to choose $1$ from $3$ groups with the same letter. $to~_3C_1$



Now I am left with one more card I need to pick. This means I can't pick any of the $2$ groups with same letter remaining. So total sets I can only choose from now is deducted by $3~to~5~to~_5C_1$



So the answer is $to~_3C_1 cdot _5C_1$



Why is this wrong?



The workbook answer shows $_3C_1 cdot _7C_1 $



For the second one, if I pick one card out of the remaining $7$ groups. There is a chance I may pick the group with $2$ same letters, meaning the total cards I have now is $4$ instead of the required $3$.










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    $11$ cards each bear a letter, and together they can be made to spell the word "EXAMINATION". $3$ Cards are selected from the $11$ cards and the order of selection is not important. Find how many selections can be made if $2$ cards of the $3$ cards bear the same letter.



    My approach.



    I grouped the same letter together in a group and single letter is another group.



    E X A M I N T O



    AA II NN



    This shows I got $8$ separate groups of different letters.



    Now I understand I need cards from A, I or N first. So I need to choose $1$ from $3$ groups with the same letter. $to~_3C_1$



    Now I am left with one more card I need to pick. This means I can't pick any of the $2$ groups with same letter remaining. So total sets I can only choose from now is deducted by $3~to~5~to~_5C_1$



    So the answer is $to~_3C_1 cdot _5C_1$



    Why is this wrong?



    The workbook answer shows $_3C_1 cdot _7C_1 $



    For the second one, if I pick one card out of the remaining $7$ groups. There is a chance I may pick the group with $2$ same letters, meaning the total cards I have now is $4$ instead of the required $3$.










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      $11$ cards each bear a letter, and together they can be made to spell the word "EXAMINATION". $3$ Cards are selected from the $11$ cards and the order of selection is not important. Find how many selections can be made if $2$ cards of the $3$ cards bear the same letter.



      My approach.



      I grouped the same letter together in a group and single letter is another group.



      E X A M I N T O



      AA II NN



      This shows I got $8$ separate groups of different letters.



      Now I understand I need cards from A, I or N first. So I need to choose $1$ from $3$ groups with the same letter. $to~_3C_1$



      Now I am left with one more card I need to pick. This means I can't pick any of the $2$ groups with same letter remaining. So total sets I can only choose from now is deducted by $3~to~5~to~_5C_1$



      So the answer is $to~_3C_1 cdot _5C_1$



      Why is this wrong?



      The workbook answer shows $_3C_1 cdot _7C_1 $



      For the second one, if I pick one card out of the remaining $7$ groups. There is a chance I may pick the group with $2$ same letters, meaning the total cards I have now is $4$ instead of the required $3$.










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      $11$ cards each bear a letter, and together they can be made to spell the word "EXAMINATION". $3$ Cards are selected from the $11$ cards and the order of selection is not important. Find how many selections can be made if $2$ cards of the $3$ cards bear the same letter.



      My approach.



      I grouped the same letter together in a group and single letter is another group.



      E X A M I N T O



      AA II NN



      This shows I got $8$ separate groups of different letters.



      Now I understand I need cards from A, I or N first. So I need to choose $1$ from $3$ groups with the same letter. $to~_3C_1$



      Now I am left with one more card I need to pick. This means I can't pick any of the $2$ groups with same letter remaining. So total sets I can only choose from now is deducted by $3~to~5~to~_5C_1$



      So the answer is $to~_3C_1 cdot _5C_1$



      Why is this wrong?



      The workbook answer shows $_3C_1 cdot _7C_1 $



      For the second one, if I pick one card out of the remaining $7$ groups. There is a chance I may pick the group with $2$ same letters, meaning the total cards I have now is $4$ instead of the required $3$.







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          The first part of your answer is right. You have 3 ways to choose from $A, I, N$. However, after that you're only considering picking from a group of letters which occur only once, in this case $E, X, M, T, O$. This would lead you to miss a case like $AAN$ where the second letter could also come from one of the repeated ones. So after picking one letter from $3$ possible options with $3choose1$ number of ways, you pick one letter from the rest of all the remaining distinct letters ($n-1 = 8-1 =7$) as there are $8$ distinct letters and one letter has already been chosen. You can choose $1$ from them in $7choose1$ ways, giving you the answer



          $${3choose1}{7choose1}$$






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            The first part of your answer is right. You have 3 ways to choose from $A, I, N$. However, after that you're only considering picking from a group of letters which occur only once, in this case $E, X, M, T, O$. This would lead you to miss a case like $AAN$ where the second letter could also come from one of the repeated ones. So after picking one letter from $3$ possible options with $3choose1$ number of ways, you pick one letter from the rest of all the remaining distinct letters ($n-1 = 8-1 =7$) as there are $8$ distinct letters and one letter has already been chosen. You can choose $1$ from them in $7choose1$ ways, giving you the answer



            $${3choose1}{7choose1}$$






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              The first part of your answer is right. You have 3 ways to choose from $A, I, N$. However, after that you're only considering picking from a group of letters which occur only once, in this case $E, X, M, T, O$. This would lead you to miss a case like $AAN$ where the second letter could also come from one of the repeated ones. So after picking one letter from $3$ possible options with $3choose1$ number of ways, you pick one letter from the rest of all the remaining distinct letters ($n-1 = 8-1 =7$) as there are $8$ distinct letters and one letter has already been chosen. You can choose $1$ from them in $7choose1$ ways, giving you the answer



              $${3choose1}{7choose1}$$






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                The first part of your answer is right. You have 3 ways to choose from $A, I, N$. However, after that you're only considering picking from a group of letters which occur only once, in this case $E, X, M, T, O$. This would lead you to miss a case like $AAN$ where the second letter could also come from one of the repeated ones. So after picking one letter from $3$ possible options with $3choose1$ number of ways, you pick one letter from the rest of all the remaining distinct letters ($n-1 = 8-1 =7$) as there are $8$ distinct letters and one letter has already been chosen. You can choose $1$ from them in $7choose1$ ways, giving you the answer



                $${3choose1}{7choose1}$$






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                The first part of your answer is right. You have 3 ways to choose from $A, I, N$. However, after that you're only considering picking from a group of letters which occur only once, in this case $E, X, M, T, O$. This would lead you to miss a case like $AAN$ where the second letter could also come from one of the repeated ones. So after picking one letter from $3$ possible options with $3choose1$ number of ways, you pick one letter from the rest of all the remaining distinct letters ($n-1 = 8-1 =7$) as there are $8$ distinct letters and one letter has already been chosen. You can choose $1$ from them in $7choose1$ ways, giving you the answer



                $${3choose1}{7choose1}$$







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