Equivalence between Lusin (N) property and absolute continuity.
Let $Fcolon [a,b] to Bbb R$ be continuous and increasing. Then:
$F$ satisfies the Lusin (N) property if and only if it is absolutely continuous.
Here, Lusin (N) property means that for all $Nsubseteq [a,b]$ with $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$ we have $mathfrak{m}(F[N])=0$, where $mathfrak{m}$ of course denotes Lebesgue measure.
That absolute continuity implies the Lusin (N) property is not hard to check directly using the definitions. I also have an outline of proof for the direct implication, which I can understand. This question is about fixing my first attempt for said implication (I feel I was very close).
Assume by contradiction that $F$ is not absolutely continuous, and take $epsilon > 0$ to witness that. Then, for every $k>0$ there is a disjoint collection of open intervals $I_{k,1}, ldots, I_{k,n_k}subseteq [a,b]$ such that $$sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(I_{k,j})< frac{1}{k} qquad mbox{but}qquad sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(F[I_{k,j}]) geq epsilon.$$(To write the negation of absolute continuity as above I am using that $F$ is increasing to take intervals into intervals, and that $F$ -- hence $mu_F$ -- is continuous to disregard the endpoints of the $F[I_{k,j}]$ in the second bound). I want to somehow the take the limit of these collections of intervals. This is my motivation for defining $$N doteq bigcap_{k >0} bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}.$$It is clear that $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$. I want to use the second estimate to contradict the Lusin (N) property. I thought of using the Lusin (N) property to say that $mathfrak{m}(F[N]) = 0$, and use outer regularity of $mathfrak{m}$ to get an open set $Osupseteq F[N]$ with $mathfrak{m}(O) = mathfrak{m}(Osetminus F[N]) < epsilon$, and do something with the open set $F^{-1}[O]$.
Question: How can I conclude the proof from here? If not, is any of this salvageable?
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Let $Fcolon [a,b] to Bbb R$ be continuous and increasing. Then:
$F$ satisfies the Lusin (N) property if and only if it is absolutely continuous.
Here, Lusin (N) property means that for all $Nsubseteq [a,b]$ with $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$ we have $mathfrak{m}(F[N])=0$, where $mathfrak{m}$ of course denotes Lebesgue measure.
That absolute continuity implies the Lusin (N) property is not hard to check directly using the definitions. I also have an outline of proof for the direct implication, which I can understand. This question is about fixing my first attempt for said implication (I feel I was very close).
Assume by contradiction that $F$ is not absolutely continuous, and take $epsilon > 0$ to witness that. Then, for every $k>0$ there is a disjoint collection of open intervals $I_{k,1}, ldots, I_{k,n_k}subseteq [a,b]$ such that $$sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(I_{k,j})< frac{1}{k} qquad mbox{but}qquad sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(F[I_{k,j}]) geq epsilon.$$(To write the negation of absolute continuity as above I am using that $F$ is increasing to take intervals into intervals, and that $F$ -- hence $mu_F$ -- is continuous to disregard the endpoints of the $F[I_{k,j}]$ in the second bound). I want to somehow the take the limit of these collections of intervals. This is my motivation for defining $$N doteq bigcap_{k >0} bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}.$$It is clear that $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$. I want to use the second estimate to contradict the Lusin (N) property. I thought of using the Lusin (N) property to say that $mathfrak{m}(F[N]) = 0$, and use outer regularity of $mathfrak{m}$ to get an open set $Osupseteq F[N]$ with $mathfrak{m}(O) = mathfrak{m}(Osetminus F[N]) < epsilon$, and do something with the open set $F^{-1}[O]$.
Question: How can I conclude the proof from here? If not, is any of this salvageable?
real-analysis measure-theory proof-verification lebesgue-measure
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Let $Fcolon [a,b] to Bbb R$ be continuous and increasing. Then:
$F$ satisfies the Lusin (N) property if and only if it is absolutely continuous.
Here, Lusin (N) property means that for all $Nsubseteq [a,b]$ with $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$ we have $mathfrak{m}(F[N])=0$, where $mathfrak{m}$ of course denotes Lebesgue measure.
That absolute continuity implies the Lusin (N) property is not hard to check directly using the definitions. I also have an outline of proof for the direct implication, which I can understand. This question is about fixing my first attempt for said implication (I feel I was very close).
Assume by contradiction that $F$ is not absolutely continuous, and take $epsilon > 0$ to witness that. Then, for every $k>0$ there is a disjoint collection of open intervals $I_{k,1}, ldots, I_{k,n_k}subseteq [a,b]$ such that $$sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(I_{k,j})< frac{1}{k} qquad mbox{but}qquad sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(F[I_{k,j}]) geq epsilon.$$(To write the negation of absolute continuity as above I am using that $F$ is increasing to take intervals into intervals, and that $F$ -- hence $mu_F$ -- is continuous to disregard the endpoints of the $F[I_{k,j}]$ in the second bound). I want to somehow the take the limit of these collections of intervals. This is my motivation for defining $$N doteq bigcap_{k >0} bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}.$$It is clear that $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$. I want to use the second estimate to contradict the Lusin (N) property. I thought of using the Lusin (N) property to say that $mathfrak{m}(F[N]) = 0$, and use outer regularity of $mathfrak{m}$ to get an open set $Osupseteq F[N]$ with $mathfrak{m}(O) = mathfrak{m}(Osetminus F[N]) < epsilon$, and do something with the open set $F^{-1}[O]$.
Question: How can I conclude the proof from here? If not, is any of this salvageable?
real-analysis measure-theory proof-verification lebesgue-measure
Let $Fcolon [a,b] to Bbb R$ be continuous and increasing. Then:
$F$ satisfies the Lusin (N) property if and only if it is absolutely continuous.
Here, Lusin (N) property means that for all $Nsubseteq [a,b]$ with $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$ we have $mathfrak{m}(F[N])=0$, where $mathfrak{m}$ of course denotes Lebesgue measure.
That absolute continuity implies the Lusin (N) property is not hard to check directly using the definitions. I also have an outline of proof for the direct implication, which I can understand. This question is about fixing my first attempt for said implication (I feel I was very close).
Assume by contradiction that $F$ is not absolutely continuous, and take $epsilon > 0$ to witness that. Then, for every $k>0$ there is a disjoint collection of open intervals $I_{k,1}, ldots, I_{k,n_k}subseteq [a,b]$ such that $$sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(I_{k,j})< frac{1}{k} qquad mbox{but}qquad sum_{j=1}^{n_k} mathfrak{m}(F[I_{k,j}]) geq epsilon.$$(To write the negation of absolute continuity as above I am using that $F$ is increasing to take intervals into intervals, and that $F$ -- hence $mu_F$ -- is continuous to disregard the endpoints of the $F[I_{k,j}]$ in the second bound). I want to somehow the take the limit of these collections of intervals. This is my motivation for defining $$N doteq bigcap_{k >0} bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}.$$It is clear that $mathfrak{m}(N)=0$. I want to use the second estimate to contradict the Lusin (N) property. I thought of using the Lusin (N) property to say that $mathfrak{m}(F[N]) = 0$, and use outer regularity of $mathfrak{m}$ to get an open set $Osupseteq F[N]$ with $mathfrak{m}(O) = mathfrak{m}(Osetminus F[N]) < epsilon$, and do something with the open set $F^{-1}[O]$.
Question: How can I conclude the proof from here? If not, is any of this salvageable?
real-analysis measure-theory proof-verification lebesgue-measure
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You have to modify your choice of the intervals, because the property "absolute continuous" can fail in 'many points'. This makes possible that $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$ and $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ are disjoint for some $k ne j$. Thus your construction can lead to $N = emptyset$! This is the reason why you cannot deduce a contradiction in your argument.
One major point is that we need to ensure that $f$ is not absolute continuous on $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$. This allows us to choice the next intervals (in the $k+1$-step of the induction argument) to be a subset of $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ and thus
$$lambda(F(N)) = lambda (bigcap_{n=1}^infty bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j}) = liminf_{n rightarrow infty} lambda( bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j})) ge varepsilon.$$
We used in the first step that $f$ is injective. (This is true, because $f$ is increasing!)
Finally, let us justify that we can choose the next intervals as subsets of the previous one. If for some $delta >0$ and for all choices of disjoint intervals $I_1, ldots, I_n subset [a,b]$ with $lambda(I_n) <delta$ the function $f$ is absolute continious, then it is on $[a,b]$.
Just take $[a,b] = I_1 cup ldots I_n$ with $ delta/2 < lambda(I_n) < delta.$ Then there are $delta_l>0$ such that for any disjoint $J_1,ldots,J_m subset I_l$ with $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(J_i) < delta_n$ we have $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(f(J_i)) < varepsilon/(2n)$.
Let $delta' := min(delta_1,ldots,delta_n,delta/4)$. For any disjoint intervals with $H_1,ldots,H_m subset [a,b]$ with $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(H_k) < delta'$, we know that $H_k$ has non-trivial intersection with at most two sets $I_i$ and $I_j$. The intervals $H_i cap I_j$ have lenght less than $delta_i$. Thus $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) <varepsilon/(2n)$. All in all, we find
$$ sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k)) leq 2 sum_{l=1}^n sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) < varepsilon.$$
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You have to modify your choice of the intervals, because the property "absolute continuous" can fail in 'many points'. This makes possible that $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$ and $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ are disjoint for some $k ne j$. Thus your construction can lead to $N = emptyset$! This is the reason why you cannot deduce a contradiction in your argument.
One major point is that we need to ensure that $f$ is not absolute continuous on $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$. This allows us to choice the next intervals (in the $k+1$-step of the induction argument) to be a subset of $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ and thus
$$lambda(F(N)) = lambda (bigcap_{n=1}^infty bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j}) = liminf_{n rightarrow infty} lambda( bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j})) ge varepsilon.$$
We used in the first step that $f$ is injective. (This is true, because $f$ is increasing!)
Finally, let us justify that we can choose the next intervals as subsets of the previous one. If for some $delta >0$ and for all choices of disjoint intervals $I_1, ldots, I_n subset [a,b]$ with $lambda(I_n) <delta$ the function $f$ is absolute continious, then it is on $[a,b]$.
Just take $[a,b] = I_1 cup ldots I_n$ with $ delta/2 < lambda(I_n) < delta.$ Then there are $delta_l>0$ such that for any disjoint $J_1,ldots,J_m subset I_l$ with $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(J_i) < delta_n$ we have $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(f(J_i)) < varepsilon/(2n)$.
Let $delta' := min(delta_1,ldots,delta_n,delta/4)$. For any disjoint intervals with $H_1,ldots,H_m subset [a,b]$ with $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(H_k) < delta'$, we know that $H_k$ has non-trivial intersection with at most two sets $I_i$ and $I_j$. The intervals $H_i cap I_j$ have lenght less than $delta_i$. Thus $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) <varepsilon/(2n)$. All in all, we find
$$ sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k)) leq 2 sum_{l=1}^n sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) < varepsilon.$$
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You have to modify your choice of the intervals, because the property "absolute continuous" can fail in 'many points'. This makes possible that $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$ and $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ are disjoint for some $k ne j$. Thus your construction can lead to $N = emptyset$! This is the reason why you cannot deduce a contradiction in your argument.
One major point is that we need to ensure that $f$ is not absolute continuous on $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$. This allows us to choice the next intervals (in the $k+1$-step of the induction argument) to be a subset of $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ and thus
$$lambda(F(N)) = lambda (bigcap_{n=1}^infty bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j}) = liminf_{n rightarrow infty} lambda( bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j})) ge varepsilon.$$
We used in the first step that $f$ is injective. (This is true, because $f$ is increasing!)
Finally, let us justify that we can choose the next intervals as subsets of the previous one. If for some $delta >0$ and for all choices of disjoint intervals $I_1, ldots, I_n subset [a,b]$ with $lambda(I_n) <delta$ the function $f$ is absolute continious, then it is on $[a,b]$.
Just take $[a,b] = I_1 cup ldots I_n$ with $ delta/2 < lambda(I_n) < delta.$ Then there are $delta_l>0$ such that for any disjoint $J_1,ldots,J_m subset I_l$ with $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(J_i) < delta_n$ we have $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(f(J_i)) < varepsilon/(2n)$.
Let $delta' := min(delta_1,ldots,delta_n,delta/4)$. For any disjoint intervals with $H_1,ldots,H_m subset [a,b]$ with $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(H_k) < delta'$, we know that $H_k$ has non-trivial intersection with at most two sets $I_i$ and $I_j$. The intervals $H_i cap I_j$ have lenght less than $delta_i$. Thus $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) <varepsilon/(2n)$. All in all, we find
$$ sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k)) leq 2 sum_{l=1}^n sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) < varepsilon.$$
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You have to modify your choice of the intervals, because the property "absolute continuous" can fail in 'many points'. This makes possible that $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$ and $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ are disjoint for some $k ne j$. Thus your construction can lead to $N = emptyset$! This is the reason why you cannot deduce a contradiction in your argument.
One major point is that we need to ensure that $f$ is not absolute continuous on $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$. This allows us to choice the next intervals (in the $k+1$-step of the induction argument) to be a subset of $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ and thus
$$lambda(F(N)) = lambda (bigcap_{n=1}^infty bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j}) = liminf_{n rightarrow infty} lambda( bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j})) ge varepsilon.$$
We used in the first step that $f$ is injective. (This is true, because $f$ is increasing!)
Finally, let us justify that we can choose the next intervals as subsets of the previous one. If for some $delta >0$ and for all choices of disjoint intervals $I_1, ldots, I_n subset [a,b]$ with $lambda(I_n) <delta$ the function $f$ is absolute continious, then it is on $[a,b]$.
Just take $[a,b] = I_1 cup ldots I_n$ with $ delta/2 < lambda(I_n) < delta.$ Then there are $delta_l>0$ such that for any disjoint $J_1,ldots,J_m subset I_l$ with $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(J_i) < delta_n$ we have $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(f(J_i)) < varepsilon/(2n)$.
Let $delta' := min(delta_1,ldots,delta_n,delta/4)$. For any disjoint intervals with $H_1,ldots,H_m subset [a,b]$ with $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(H_k) < delta'$, we know that $H_k$ has non-trivial intersection with at most two sets $I_i$ and $I_j$. The intervals $H_i cap I_j$ have lenght less than $delta_i$. Thus $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) <varepsilon/(2n)$. All in all, we find
$$ sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k)) leq 2 sum_{l=1}^n sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) < varepsilon.$$
You have to modify your choice of the intervals, because the property "absolute continuous" can fail in 'many points'. This makes possible that $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$ and $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ are disjoint for some $k ne j$. Thus your construction can lead to $N = emptyset$! This is the reason why you cannot deduce a contradiction in your argument.
One major point is that we need to ensure that $f$ is not absolute continuous on $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} I_{k,j}$. This allows us to choice the next intervals (in the $k+1$-step of the induction argument) to be a subset of $bigcup_{j=1}^{n_{l}} I_{k,j}$ and thus
$$lambda(F(N)) = lambda (bigcap_{n=1}^infty bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j}) = liminf_{n rightarrow infty} lambda( bigcup_{j=1}^{n_k} F(I_{k,j})) ge varepsilon.$$
We used in the first step that $f$ is injective. (This is true, because $f$ is increasing!)
Finally, let us justify that we can choose the next intervals as subsets of the previous one. If for some $delta >0$ and for all choices of disjoint intervals $I_1, ldots, I_n subset [a,b]$ with $lambda(I_n) <delta$ the function $f$ is absolute continious, then it is on $[a,b]$.
Just take $[a,b] = I_1 cup ldots I_n$ with $ delta/2 < lambda(I_n) < delta.$ Then there are $delta_l>0$ such that for any disjoint $J_1,ldots,J_m subset I_l$ with $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(J_i) < delta_n$ we have $sum_{i=1}^m lambda(f(J_i)) < varepsilon/(2n)$.
Let $delta' := min(delta_1,ldots,delta_n,delta/4)$. For any disjoint intervals with $H_1,ldots,H_m subset [a,b]$ with $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(H_k) < delta'$, we know that $H_k$ has non-trivial intersection with at most two sets $I_i$ and $I_j$. The intervals $H_i cap I_j$ have lenght less than $delta_i$. Thus $sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) <varepsilon/(2n)$. All in all, we find
$$ sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k)) leq 2 sum_{l=1}^n sum_{k=1}^m lambda(f(H_k cap I_j)) < varepsilon.$$
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