Conditional Probability on Cards of the Same Suit
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A normal deck of 52 playing cards is well shuffled and then 4 cards are dealt to Ann and 4 cards ar dealt to Bob. Ann looks at her c that all 4 of them are from the same suit, that suit being hearts. She is interested in the probability that Bob also has 4 cards that belong to a single suit, allowing for her knowledge of the cards she holds.
Please correct my answer if it is incorrect:
$$text{Probability}=P(text{Bob has all hearts} |text{Ann has all hearts})+P(text{Bob has all clubs/spades/diamonds}|text{Ann has all hearts})$$
$$=frac{binom{9}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}+frac{binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}$$
$$=frac{757}{64860}$$
I am aware that this is a conditional probability, but I was unsure how to apply Bayes' Theorem in this scenario.
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A normal deck of 52 playing cards is well shuffled and then 4 cards are dealt to Ann and 4 cards ar dealt to Bob. Ann looks at her c that all 4 of them are from the same suit, that suit being hearts. She is interested in the probability that Bob also has 4 cards that belong to a single suit, allowing for her knowledge of the cards she holds.
Please correct my answer if it is incorrect:
$$text{Probability}=P(text{Bob has all hearts} |text{Ann has all hearts})+P(text{Bob has all clubs/spades/diamonds}|text{Ann has all hearts})$$
$$=frac{binom{9}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}+frac{binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}$$
$$=frac{757}{64860}$$
I am aware that this is a conditional probability, but I was unsure how to apply Bayes' Theorem in this scenario.
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A normal deck of 52 playing cards is well shuffled and then 4 cards are dealt to Ann and 4 cards ar dealt to Bob. Ann looks at her c that all 4 of them are from the same suit, that suit being hearts. She is interested in the probability that Bob also has 4 cards that belong to a single suit, allowing for her knowledge of the cards she holds.
Please correct my answer if it is incorrect:
$$text{Probability}=P(text{Bob has all hearts} |text{Ann has all hearts})+P(text{Bob has all clubs/spades/diamonds}|text{Ann has all hearts})$$
$$=frac{binom{9}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}+frac{binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}$$
$$=frac{757}{64860}$$
I am aware that this is a conditional probability, but I was unsure how to apply Bayes' Theorem in this scenario.
probability combinations
A normal deck of 52 playing cards is well shuffled and then 4 cards are dealt to Ann and 4 cards ar dealt to Bob. Ann looks at her c that all 4 of them are from the same suit, that suit being hearts. She is interested in the probability that Bob also has 4 cards that belong to a single suit, allowing for her knowledge of the cards she holds.
Please correct my answer if it is incorrect:
$$text{Probability}=P(text{Bob has all hearts} |text{Ann has all hearts})+P(text{Bob has all clubs/spades/diamonds}|text{Ann has all hearts})$$
$$=frac{binom{9}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}+frac{binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}}{binom{48}{4}}$$
$$=frac{757}{64860}$$
I am aware that this is a conditional probability, but I was unsure how to apply Bayes' Theorem in this scenario.
probability combinations
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$P(A)$ = P(Anne has all hearts) =$$frac{ ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
$P(B)$ = P(Bod has same suite) =$$frac{^{13}C_4cdot ^3C_1+^9C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
Using:
$$P(Bmid A)=frac{P( A ∩ B)}{P(A)}$$
P(A ∩ B)=$$frac{(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8}$$
You get: $$P(Bmid A)=(frac {(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8 })cdot(frac{^{52}C_4}{^{13}C_4})$$
To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
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Nov 19 at 11:02
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
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@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
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@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
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Letting $X$ be the event where Bob has $4$ cards of the same suit and letting $H$ be the event where Ann has four hearts.
$$P(X|H)=frac{P(Xcap H)}{P(H)}$$
where
$$P(H)=frac{binom{13}{4}}{binom{52}{4}}$$
and
$$P(X cap H)=frac{binom{13}{4}times left(binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}+binom{9}{4} right)}{binom{52}{4}timesbinom{48}{4}}$$
Substituing into the conditional probability gets the result that I originally posted in my solution.
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$P(A)$ = P(Anne has all hearts) =$$frac{ ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
$P(B)$ = P(Bod has same suite) =$$frac{^{13}C_4cdot ^3C_1+^9C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
Using:
$$P(Bmid A)=frac{P( A ∩ B)}{P(A)}$$
P(A ∩ B)=$$frac{(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8}$$
You get: $$P(Bmid A)=(frac {(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8 })cdot(frac{^{52}C_4}{^{13}C_4})$$
To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
– idea
Nov 19 at 11:02
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
1
@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
1
@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
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$P(A)$ = P(Anne has all hearts) =$$frac{ ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
$P(B)$ = P(Bod has same suite) =$$frac{^{13}C_4cdot ^3C_1+^9C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
Using:
$$P(Bmid A)=frac{P( A ∩ B)}{P(A)}$$
P(A ∩ B)=$$frac{(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8}$$
You get: $$P(Bmid A)=(frac {(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8 })cdot(frac{^{52}C_4}{^{13}C_4})$$
To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
– idea
Nov 19 at 11:02
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
1
@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
1
@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
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$P(A)$ = P(Anne has all hearts) =$$frac{ ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
$P(B)$ = P(Bod has same suite) =$$frac{^{13}C_4cdot ^3C_1+^9C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
Using:
$$P(Bmid A)=frac{P( A ∩ B)}{P(A)}$$
P(A ∩ B)=$$frac{(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8}$$
You get: $$P(Bmid A)=(frac {(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8 })cdot(frac{^{52}C_4}{^{13}C_4})$$
$P(A)$ = P(Anne has all hearts) =$$frac{ ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
$P(B)$ = P(Bod has same suite) =$$frac{^{13}C_4cdot ^3C_1+^9C_4}{^{52}C_4}$$
Using:
$$P(Bmid A)=frac{P( A ∩ B)}{P(A)}$$
P(A ∩ B)=$$frac{(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8}$$
You get: $$P(Bmid A)=(frac {(^{13}C_4 cdot 3+ ^{9}C_4)cdot ^{13}C_4}{^{52}C_8 })cdot(frac{^{52}C_4}{^{13}C_4})$$
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answered Nov 19 at 9:44
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To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
– idea
Nov 19 at 11:02
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
1
@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
1
@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
|
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To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
– idea
Nov 19 at 11:02
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
1
@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
1
@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type
$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
To obtain $P(B mid A)$, type
$P(B mid A)$. Also, check your last line.– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 10:40
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
– idea
Nov 19 at 11:02
@N.F.Taussig thanks for that, but whats wrong in last line?
– idea
Nov 19 at 11:02
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
Your probability is greater than $1$.
– N. F. Taussig
Nov 19 at 11:04
1
1
@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
@N.F.Taussig Yeah...$C(52,8)$. And i later added $C(4,1)$ to select a suite-heart; but we dont need to it seems...
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:20
1
1
@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
@N.F.Taussig And Thanks, for taking me through this. Got to learn something new.
– idea
Nov 19 at 12:41
|
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Letting $X$ be the event where Bob has $4$ cards of the same suit and letting $H$ be the event where Ann has four hearts.
$$P(X|H)=frac{P(Xcap H)}{P(H)}$$
where
$$P(H)=frac{binom{13}{4}}{binom{52}{4}}$$
and
$$P(X cap H)=frac{binom{13}{4}times left(binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}+binom{9}{4} right)}{binom{52}{4}timesbinom{48}{4}}$$
Substituing into the conditional probability gets the result that I originally posted in my solution.
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Letting $X$ be the event where Bob has $4$ cards of the same suit and letting $H$ be the event where Ann has four hearts.
$$P(X|H)=frac{P(Xcap H)}{P(H)}$$
where
$$P(H)=frac{binom{13}{4}}{binom{52}{4}}$$
and
$$P(X cap H)=frac{binom{13}{4}times left(binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}+binom{9}{4} right)}{binom{52}{4}timesbinom{48}{4}}$$
Substituing into the conditional probability gets the result that I originally posted in my solution.
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Letting $X$ be the event where Bob has $4$ cards of the same suit and letting $H$ be the event where Ann has four hearts.
$$P(X|H)=frac{P(Xcap H)}{P(H)}$$
where
$$P(H)=frac{binom{13}{4}}{binom{52}{4}}$$
and
$$P(X cap H)=frac{binom{13}{4}times left(binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}+binom{9}{4} right)}{binom{52}{4}timesbinom{48}{4}}$$
Substituing into the conditional probability gets the result that I originally posted in my solution.
Letting $X$ be the event where Bob has $4$ cards of the same suit and letting $H$ be the event where Ann has four hearts.
$$P(X|H)=frac{P(Xcap H)}{P(H)}$$
where
$$P(H)=frac{binom{13}{4}}{binom{52}{4}}$$
and
$$P(X cap H)=frac{binom{13}{4}times left(binom{3}{1}timesbinom{13}{4}+binom{9}{4} right)}{binom{52}{4}timesbinom{48}{4}}$$
Substituing into the conditional probability gets the result that I originally posted in my solution.
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