Evaluate $I_n = int_0^{pi / 2} sin n theta cos theta ,dtheta$ by integrating by parts twice
By integrating by parts twice, show that $I_n$, as defined below for integers $n > 1$, has the value shown.
$$I_n = int_0^{pi / 2} sin n theta cos theta ,dtheta = frac{n-sin(frac{pi n}{2})}{n^2 -1}$$
I can do this using the formula $$sin A cos B = frac{1}{2}[sin(A-B)+sin(A+B)] ,$$ but when I try using integration by parts I get stuck in a loop of integrating the same thing over and over.
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By integrating by parts twice, show that $I_n$, as defined below for integers $n > 1$, has the value shown.
$$I_n = int_0^{pi / 2} sin n theta cos theta ,dtheta = frac{n-sin(frac{pi n}{2})}{n^2 -1}$$
I can do this using the formula $$sin A cos B = frac{1}{2}[sin(A-B)+sin(A+B)] ,$$ but when I try using integration by parts I get stuck in a loop of integrating the same thing over and over.
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– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:04
Can you describe a little more the choices that lead to getting "stuck in a loop"?
– Travis
Nov 18 at 19:18
@Travis let theta=x so it's quicker for me to type... so, after the first IBP i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Intergral [n(sin(x)cos(nx))]. when i use IBP on this integral i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Integral [cos(x)sin(nx)] which is what i originally tried to integrate ..
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@T.Bongers i did try my best. i'm new to this.
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
I think that there are some non-Unicode symbols being included in the equation (to the right of the second equality).
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:49
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By integrating by parts twice, show that $I_n$, as defined below for integers $n > 1$, has the value shown.
$$I_n = int_0^{pi / 2} sin n theta cos theta ,dtheta = frac{n-sin(frac{pi n}{2})}{n^2 -1}$$
I can do this using the formula $$sin A cos B = frac{1}{2}[sin(A-B)+sin(A+B)] ,$$ but when I try using integration by parts I get stuck in a loop of integrating the same thing over and over.
calculus integration definite-integrals trigonometric-integrals
By integrating by parts twice, show that $I_n$, as defined below for integers $n > 1$, has the value shown.
$$I_n = int_0^{pi / 2} sin n theta cos theta ,dtheta = frac{n-sin(frac{pi n}{2})}{n^2 -1}$$
I can do this using the formula $$sin A cos B = frac{1}{2}[sin(A-B)+sin(A+B)] ,$$ but when I try using integration by parts I get stuck in a loop of integrating the same thing over and over.
calculus integration definite-integrals trigonometric-integrals
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Please format your question a bit more; there are apparently some unreadable characters.
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:04
Can you describe a little more the choices that lead to getting "stuck in a loop"?
– Travis
Nov 18 at 19:18
@Travis let theta=x so it's quicker for me to type... so, after the first IBP i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Intergral [n(sin(x)cos(nx))]. when i use IBP on this integral i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Integral [cos(x)sin(nx)] which is what i originally tried to integrate ..
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@T.Bongers i did try my best. i'm new to this.
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
I think that there are some non-Unicode symbols being included in the equation (to the right of the second equality).
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:49
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Please format your question a bit more; there are apparently some unreadable characters.
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:04
Can you describe a little more the choices that lead to getting "stuck in a loop"?
– Travis
Nov 18 at 19:18
@Travis let theta=x so it's quicker for me to type... so, after the first IBP i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Intergral [n(sin(x)cos(nx))]. when i use IBP on this integral i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Integral [cos(x)sin(nx)] which is what i originally tried to integrate ..
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@T.Bongers i did try my best. i'm new to this.
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
I think that there are some non-Unicode symbols being included in the equation (to the right of the second equality).
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:49
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Please format your question a bit more; there are apparently some unreadable characters.
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:04
Please format your question a bit more; there are apparently some unreadable characters.
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:04
Can you describe a little more the choices that lead to getting "stuck in a loop"?
– Travis
Nov 18 at 19:18
Can you describe a little more the choices that lead to getting "stuck in a loop"?
– Travis
Nov 18 at 19:18
@Travis let theta=x so it's quicker for me to type... so, after the first IBP i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Intergral [n(sin(x)cos(nx))]. when i use IBP on this integral i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Integral [cos(x)sin(nx)] which is what i originally tried to integrate ..
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@Travis let theta=x so it's quicker for me to type... so, after the first IBP i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Intergral [n(sin(x)cos(nx))]. when i use IBP on this integral i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Integral [cos(x)sin(nx)] which is what i originally tried to integrate ..
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@T.Bongers i did try my best. i'm new to this.
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@T.Bongers i did try my best. i'm new to this.
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
I think that there are some non-Unicode symbols being included in the equation (to the right of the second equality).
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:49
I think that there are some non-Unicode symbols being included in the equation (to the right of the second equality).
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Hint Following what you've done already, integrating by parts with $u = sin n theta$, $dv = cos theta ,dtheta$ gives
begin{multline}color{#df0000}{I_n} = underbrace{sin n theta}_u , underbrace{sin theta}_v vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{sin theta}_v , underbrace{cos ntheta , dtheta}_{du} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n color{#1f1fff}{J_n}, \ color{#1f1fff}{J_n := int_0^{pi / 2} cos n theta sin theta , dtheta} .end{multline}
We now apply integration by parts to the integral $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ with $p = cos n theta$, $dq = sin theta ,dtheta$:
$$color{#3f3fff}{J_n} = cos n theta (-cos theta)vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{-cos theta}_q cdot underbrace{- n sin n theta ,dtheta}_{dp} = 1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n} .$$
Substituting to eliminate $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ gives $color{#df0000}{I_n} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n (1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n})$, and rearranging to solve for $color{#df0000}{I_n}$ gives the claimed identity: $$color{#df0000}{boxed{I_n = frac{n - sin frac{pi n}{2}}{n^2 - 1}}} .$$ Notice that for $n equiv 0, 2 pmod 4$ this simplifies to $frac{n}{n^2 - 1}$, for $n equiv 1 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n + 1}$, and for $n equiv 3 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n - 1}$.
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$$cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }=frac{sin{left( left( n+1right) xright) }+sin{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2}$$
$$int{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}=-frac{cos{left( left( n+1right) xright) }}{2 left( n+1right) }-frac{cos{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2 left( n-1right) }$$
Then
$$int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}\=
frac{n}{n^2-1}-frac{left( n-1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n+{pi} }{2}right) }+left( n+1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n-{pi} }{2}right) }}{2n^2-2}\=
frac{n}{{{n}^{2}}-1}-frac{sin{left( frac{{pi} n}{2}right) }}{{{n}^{2}}-1}$$
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Hint:
There's an escape from the infinite loop. If you observe closely, you will see that after two iterations you get to something like
$$I=b+aI$$
where the constants $a,b$ are computable.
You naturally conclude
$$I=frac{b}{1-a}.$$
$$intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta=sin nthetasintheta-nintcos nthetasintheta,dtheta\=sin nthetasintheta+ncos nthetacostheta+n^2intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta.$$
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Hint Following what you've done already, integrating by parts with $u = sin n theta$, $dv = cos theta ,dtheta$ gives
begin{multline}color{#df0000}{I_n} = underbrace{sin n theta}_u , underbrace{sin theta}_v vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{sin theta}_v , underbrace{cos ntheta , dtheta}_{du} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n color{#1f1fff}{J_n}, \ color{#1f1fff}{J_n := int_0^{pi / 2} cos n theta sin theta , dtheta} .end{multline}
We now apply integration by parts to the integral $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ with $p = cos n theta$, $dq = sin theta ,dtheta$:
$$color{#3f3fff}{J_n} = cos n theta (-cos theta)vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{-cos theta}_q cdot underbrace{- n sin n theta ,dtheta}_{dp} = 1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n} .$$
Substituting to eliminate $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ gives $color{#df0000}{I_n} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n (1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n})$, and rearranging to solve for $color{#df0000}{I_n}$ gives the claimed identity: $$color{#df0000}{boxed{I_n = frac{n - sin frac{pi n}{2}}{n^2 - 1}}} .$$ Notice that for $n equiv 0, 2 pmod 4$ this simplifies to $frac{n}{n^2 - 1}$, for $n equiv 1 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n + 1}$, and for $n equiv 3 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n - 1}$.
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Hint Following what you've done already, integrating by parts with $u = sin n theta$, $dv = cos theta ,dtheta$ gives
begin{multline}color{#df0000}{I_n} = underbrace{sin n theta}_u , underbrace{sin theta}_v vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{sin theta}_v , underbrace{cos ntheta , dtheta}_{du} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n color{#1f1fff}{J_n}, \ color{#1f1fff}{J_n := int_0^{pi / 2} cos n theta sin theta , dtheta} .end{multline}
We now apply integration by parts to the integral $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ with $p = cos n theta$, $dq = sin theta ,dtheta$:
$$color{#3f3fff}{J_n} = cos n theta (-cos theta)vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{-cos theta}_q cdot underbrace{- n sin n theta ,dtheta}_{dp} = 1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n} .$$
Substituting to eliminate $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ gives $color{#df0000}{I_n} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n (1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n})$, and rearranging to solve for $color{#df0000}{I_n}$ gives the claimed identity: $$color{#df0000}{boxed{I_n = frac{n - sin frac{pi n}{2}}{n^2 - 1}}} .$$ Notice that for $n equiv 0, 2 pmod 4$ this simplifies to $frac{n}{n^2 - 1}$, for $n equiv 1 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n + 1}$, and for $n equiv 3 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n - 1}$.
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Hint Following what you've done already, integrating by parts with $u = sin n theta$, $dv = cos theta ,dtheta$ gives
begin{multline}color{#df0000}{I_n} = underbrace{sin n theta}_u , underbrace{sin theta}_v vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{sin theta}_v , underbrace{cos ntheta , dtheta}_{du} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n color{#1f1fff}{J_n}, \ color{#1f1fff}{J_n := int_0^{pi / 2} cos n theta sin theta , dtheta} .end{multline}
We now apply integration by parts to the integral $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ with $p = cos n theta$, $dq = sin theta ,dtheta$:
$$color{#3f3fff}{J_n} = cos n theta (-cos theta)vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{-cos theta}_q cdot underbrace{- n sin n theta ,dtheta}_{dp} = 1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n} .$$
Substituting to eliminate $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ gives $color{#df0000}{I_n} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n (1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n})$, and rearranging to solve for $color{#df0000}{I_n}$ gives the claimed identity: $$color{#df0000}{boxed{I_n = frac{n - sin frac{pi n}{2}}{n^2 - 1}}} .$$ Notice that for $n equiv 0, 2 pmod 4$ this simplifies to $frac{n}{n^2 - 1}$, for $n equiv 1 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n + 1}$, and for $n equiv 3 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n - 1}$.
Hint Following what you've done already, integrating by parts with $u = sin n theta$, $dv = cos theta ,dtheta$ gives
begin{multline}color{#df0000}{I_n} = underbrace{sin n theta}_u , underbrace{sin theta}_v vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{sin theta}_v , underbrace{cos ntheta , dtheta}_{du} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n color{#1f1fff}{J_n}, \ color{#1f1fff}{J_n := int_0^{pi / 2} cos n theta sin theta , dtheta} .end{multline}
We now apply integration by parts to the integral $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ with $p = cos n theta$, $dq = sin theta ,dtheta$:
$$color{#3f3fff}{J_n} = cos n theta (-cos theta)vert_0^{pi / 2} - int_0^{pi / 2} underbrace{-cos theta}_q cdot underbrace{- n sin n theta ,dtheta}_{dp} = 1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n} .$$
Substituting to eliminate $color{#3f3fff}{J_n}$ gives $color{#df0000}{I_n} = sin frac{pi n}{2} - n (1 - n color{#df0000}{I_n})$, and rearranging to solve for $color{#df0000}{I_n}$ gives the claimed identity: $$color{#df0000}{boxed{I_n = frac{n - sin frac{pi n}{2}}{n^2 - 1}}} .$$ Notice that for $n equiv 0, 2 pmod 4$ this simplifies to $frac{n}{n^2 - 1}$, for $n equiv 1 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n + 1}$, and for $n equiv 3 pmod 4$ to $frac{1}{n - 1}$.
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$$cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }=frac{sin{left( left( n+1right) xright) }+sin{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2}$$
$$int{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}=-frac{cos{left( left( n+1right) xright) }}{2 left( n+1right) }-frac{cos{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2 left( n-1right) }$$
Then
$$int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}\=
frac{n}{n^2-1}-frac{left( n-1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n+{pi} }{2}right) }+left( n+1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n-{pi} }{2}right) }}{2n^2-2}\=
frac{n}{{{n}^{2}}-1}-frac{sin{left( frac{{pi} n}{2}right) }}{{{n}^{2}}-1}$$
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$$cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }=frac{sin{left( left( n+1right) xright) }+sin{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2}$$
$$int{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}=-frac{cos{left( left( n+1right) xright) }}{2 left( n+1right) }-frac{cos{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2 left( n-1right) }$$
Then
$$int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}\=
frac{n}{n^2-1}-frac{left( n-1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n+{pi} }{2}right) }+left( n+1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n-{pi} }{2}right) }}{2n^2-2}\=
frac{n}{{{n}^{2}}-1}-frac{sin{left( frac{{pi} n}{2}right) }}{{{n}^{2}}-1}$$
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$$cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }=frac{sin{left( left( n+1right) xright) }+sin{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2}$$
$$int{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}=-frac{cos{left( left( n+1right) xright) }}{2 left( n+1right) }-frac{cos{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2 left( n-1right) }$$
Then
$$int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}\=
frac{n}{n^2-1}-frac{left( n-1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n+{pi} }{2}right) }+left( n+1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n-{pi} }{2}right) }}{2n^2-2}\=
frac{n}{{{n}^{2}}-1}-frac{sin{left( frac{{pi} n}{2}right) }}{{{n}^{2}}-1}$$
$$cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }=frac{sin{left( left( n+1right) xright) }+sin{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2}$$
$$int{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}=-frac{cos{left( left( n+1right) xright) }}{2 left( n+1right) }-frac{cos{left( left( n-1right) xright) }}{2 left( n-1right) }$$
Then
$$int_{0}^{frac{pi}{2}}{left. cos{(x)} sin{left( n xright) }dxright.}\=
frac{n}{n^2-1}-frac{left( n-1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n+{pi} }{2}right) }+left( n+1right) cos{left( frac{{pi} n-{pi} }{2}right) }}{2n^2-2}\=
frac{n}{{{n}^{2}}-1}-frac{sin{left( frac{{pi} n}{2}right) }}{{{n}^{2}}-1}$$
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Hint:
There's an escape from the infinite loop. If you observe closely, you will see that after two iterations you get to something like
$$I=b+aI$$
where the constants $a,b$ are computable.
You naturally conclude
$$I=frac{b}{1-a}.$$
$$intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta=sin nthetasintheta-nintcos nthetasintheta,dtheta\=sin nthetasintheta+ncos nthetacostheta+n^2intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta.$$
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Hint:
There's an escape from the infinite loop. If you observe closely, you will see that after two iterations you get to something like
$$I=b+aI$$
where the constants $a,b$ are computable.
You naturally conclude
$$I=frac{b}{1-a}.$$
$$intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta=sin nthetasintheta-nintcos nthetasintheta,dtheta\=sin nthetasintheta+ncos nthetacostheta+n^2intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta.$$
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Hint:
There's an escape from the infinite loop. If you observe closely, you will see that after two iterations you get to something like
$$I=b+aI$$
where the constants $a,b$ are computable.
You naturally conclude
$$I=frac{b}{1-a}.$$
$$intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta=sin nthetasintheta-nintcos nthetasintheta,dtheta\=sin nthetasintheta+ncos nthetacostheta+n^2intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta.$$
Hint:
There's an escape from the infinite loop. If you observe closely, you will see that after two iterations you get to something like
$$I=b+aI$$
where the constants $a,b$ are computable.
You naturally conclude
$$I=frac{b}{1-a}.$$
$$intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta=sin nthetasintheta-nintcos nthetasintheta,dtheta\=sin nthetasintheta+ncos nthetacostheta+n^2intsin nthetacostheta,dtheta.$$
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– Travis
Nov 18 at 19:18
@Travis let theta=x so it's quicker for me to type... so, after the first IBP i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Intergral [n(sin(x)cos(nx))]. when i use IBP on this integral i get sin(x)sin(nx) - Integral [cos(x)sin(nx)] which is what i originally tried to integrate ..
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
@T.Bongers i did try my best. i'm new to this.
– Taylor
Nov 18 at 19:48
I think that there are some non-Unicode symbols being included in the equation (to the right of the second equality).
– T. Bongers
Nov 18 at 19:49