Evaluting $lim_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$
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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$
$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$
But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$
Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.
Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $
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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$
$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$
But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$
Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.
Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $
real-analysis limits limits-without-lhopital
$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19
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You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21
These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02
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$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$
$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$
But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$
Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.
Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $
real-analysis limits limits-without-lhopital
$lim limits_{n to infty } sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}$
$1leftarrowsqrt[n]{25n}lesqrt[n]{25n+n^3}lesqrt[n]{25n^3+n^3}le sqrt[n]{26n^3}=sqrt[n]{26}cdotsqrt[n]{n^3}to1cdot1=1$
But is it obvious that $ forall _{kin Bbb N} (sqrt[n]n)^k to1 ?$
Since I know $(sqrt[n]n) to1$.
Is it enought to say $(sqrt[n]n)^kto1^k? $
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real-analysis limits limits-without-lhopital
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$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19
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You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21
These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02
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$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19
1
You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21
These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02
$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19
$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19
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You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21
You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21
These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02
These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02
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Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually
$$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$
and
- $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$
- $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$
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use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.
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You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.
$$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
$$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$ Continuing with Taylor
$$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$ which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.
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3 Answers
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Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually
$$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$
and
- $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$
- $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$
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Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually
$$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$
and
- $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$
- $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$
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Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually
$$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$
and
- $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$
- $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$
Yes your idea is correct indeed we have that eventually
$$sqrt[n]{25n}le sqrt[n]{25n+n^3}le sqrt[n]{2n^3}$$
and
- $sqrt[n]{25n}=sqrt[n]{25}sqrt[n]{n}to 1$
- $sqrt[n]{2n^3}=(sqrt[n]{2})^3(sqrt[n]{n})^3 to 1$
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use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.
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use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.
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use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.
use $limsup_{n rightarrow infty} |a_n|^{1/n}$ to help you find the answer.
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You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.
$$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
$$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$ Continuing with Taylor
$$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$ which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.
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You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.
$$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
$$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$ Continuing with Taylor
$$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$ which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.
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You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.
$$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
$$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$ Continuing with Taylor
$$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$ which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.
You could also have good approximations for finite values of $n$.
$$a_n=sqrt[n]{kn+n^3}implies log(a_n)=frac 1 n log(kn+n^3)=frac 1 n left(3 log(n)+log left(1+frac{k}{n^2}right) right)$$ Now, using Taylor expansions for large values of $n$
$$log(a_n)=frac{3 log
left({n}right)}{n}+frac{k}{n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^5}right)$$ Continuing with Taylor
$$a_n=e^{log(a_n)}=1+frac{3 log left({n}right)}{n}+frac{9 log
^2left({n}right)}{2 n^2}+frac{6 k+27 log
^3left({n}right)}{6 n^3}+Oleft(frac{1}{n^4}right)$$ which, for sure, shows the limit and how "far" is $k$ appearing in the approximation.
answered Nov 19 at 4:52
Claude Leibovici
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$n^{3/n}=(n/3)^{3/n}cdot 3^{3/n}to 1$.
– user254433
Nov 18 at 23:19
1
You can use the basic result: if $a_nto a$ and $b_nto b$ then $a_nb_n to ab$ to get $sqrt[n]{n}^k to 1^k = 1$. This works for integer $k$ (induction). In general you can use continuity of the power-function.
– Winther
Nov 18 at 23:21
These answers actually show that if $p(n)$ is a polynomial in $n$, then $(p(n))^{1/n} to 1$.
– JavaMan
Nov 19 at 3:02