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          Your equation is equivalent to:



          $$(p^2+q^2)e^x+(p^2-q^2)e^{-x}=2r^2$$



          or:



          $$(p^2+q^2)e^{2x}-2r^2e^x+(p^2-q^2)=0tag{1}$$



          This is a quadratic equation with respect to $t=e^x$. If (1) has at least one root, it means that there has to be one positive solution of (1). And it is possible if:



          $$D=(2r^2)^2-4(p^2+q^2)(p^2-q^2)ge 0$$



          ...which leads directly to:



          $$r^4ge p^4-r^4$$






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            Your equation is equivalent to:



            $$(p^2+q^2)e^x+(p^2-q^2)e^{-x}=2r^2$$



            or:



            $$(p^2+q^2)e^{2x}-2r^2e^x+(p^2-q^2)=0tag{1}$$



            This is a quadratic equation with respect to $t=e^x$. If (1) has at least one root, it means that there has to be one positive solution of (1). And it is possible if:



            $$D=(2r^2)^2-4(p^2+q^2)(p^2-q^2)ge 0$$



            ...which leads directly to:



            $$r^4ge p^4-r^4$$






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              Your equation is equivalent to:



              $$(p^2+q^2)e^x+(p^2-q^2)e^{-x}=2r^2$$



              or:



              $$(p^2+q^2)e^{2x}-2r^2e^x+(p^2-q^2)=0tag{1}$$



              This is a quadratic equation with respect to $t=e^x$. If (1) has at least one root, it means that there has to be one positive solution of (1). And it is possible if:



              $$D=(2r^2)^2-4(p^2+q^2)(p^2-q^2)ge 0$$



              ...which leads directly to:



              $$r^4ge p^4-r^4$$






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                Your equation is equivalent to:



                $$(p^2+q^2)e^x+(p^2-q^2)e^{-x}=2r^2$$



                or:



                $$(p^2+q^2)e^{2x}-2r^2e^x+(p^2-q^2)=0tag{1}$$



                This is a quadratic equation with respect to $t=e^x$. If (1) has at least one root, it means that there has to be one positive solution of (1). And it is possible if:



                $$D=(2r^2)^2-4(p^2+q^2)(p^2-q^2)ge 0$$



                ...which leads directly to:



                $$r^4ge p^4-r^4$$






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                Your equation is equivalent to:



                $$(p^2+q^2)e^x+(p^2-q^2)e^{-x}=2r^2$$



                or:



                $$(p^2+q^2)e^{2x}-2r^2e^x+(p^2-q^2)=0tag{1}$$



                This is a quadratic equation with respect to $t=e^x$. If (1) has at least one root, it means that there has to be one positive solution of (1). And it is possible if:



                $$D=(2r^2)^2-4(p^2+q^2)(p^2-q^2)ge 0$$



                ...which leads directly to:



                $$r^4ge p^4-r^4$$







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