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Let $X$ and $Y$ be two independent uniform on $(0,1)$ . Compute $E(X
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I was asked this question on an exam and here is how I solved it:



We have $f_X(x)=f_Y(y)=1$ and by independence $f_{X,Y}(x,y)=1$. Hence,



$$ f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) = frac{ f_{X,Y}(x,y)}{f_{Y}(y) } = 1 $$



So,



$$ E(X mid X < Y) = intlimits_0^y x f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) d x = intlimits_0^y x dx = frac{y^2}{2} $$



I think my answer is reasonable. I only got 2 points out of 10 on this question which means the entire procedure is flawed? what is my mistake here?










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  • The conditional expectation is supposed to give you a real number.
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be two independent uniform on $(0,1)$ . Compute $E(X
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I was asked this question on an exam and here is how I solved it:



We have $f_X(x)=f_Y(y)=1$ and by independence $f_{X,Y}(x,y)=1$. Hence,



$$ f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) = frac{ f_{X,Y}(x,y)}{f_{Y}(y) } = 1 $$



So,



$$ E(X mid X < Y) = intlimits_0^y x f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) d x = intlimits_0^y x dx = frac{y^2}{2} $$



I think my answer is reasonable. I only got 2 points out of 10 on this question which means the entire procedure is flawed? what is my mistake here?










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  • The conditional expectation is supposed to give you a real number.
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Let $X$ and $Y$ be two independent uniform on $(0,1)$ . Compute $E(X
mid X < Y )$
.




I was asked this question on an exam and here is how I solved it:



We have $f_X(x)=f_Y(y)=1$ and by independence $f_{X,Y}(x,y)=1$. Hence,



$$ f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) = frac{ f_{X,Y}(x,y)}{f_{Y}(y) } = 1 $$



So,



$$ E(X mid X < Y) = intlimits_0^y x f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) d x = intlimits_0^y x dx = frac{y^2}{2} $$



I think my answer is reasonable. I only got 2 points out of 10 on this question which means the entire procedure is flawed? what is my mistake here?










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Let $X$ and $Y$ be two independent uniform on $(0,1)$ . Compute $E(X
mid X < Y )$
.




I was asked this question on an exam and here is how I solved it:



We have $f_X(x)=f_Y(y)=1$ and by independence $f_{X,Y}(x,y)=1$. Hence,



$$ f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) = frac{ f_{X,Y}(x,y)}{f_{Y}(y) } = 1 $$



So,



$$ E(X mid X < Y) = intlimits_0^y x f_{X mid Y} (x mid y) d x = intlimits_0^y x dx = frac{y^2}{2} $$



I think my answer is reasonable. I only got 2 points out of 10 on this question which means the entire procedure is flawed? what is my mistake here?







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  • The conditional expectation is supposed to give you a real number.
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  • The conditional expectation is supposed to give you a real number.
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The conditional expectation is supposed to give you a real number.
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The conditional expectation is supposed to give you a real number.
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Note that $P(X<Y)=frac12$ by symmetry, so that:



$$frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)Pleft(X<Yright)=mathbb{E}Xmathbf{1}_{X<Y}=int_{0}^{1}int_{0}^{y}xdxdy=$$$$int_{0}^{1}frac{1}{2}y^{2}dy=left[frac{1}{6}y^{3}right]_{0}^{1}=frac{1}{6}$$



So the correct answer is: $$mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=frac{1}{3}$$






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    We have $$E(Xmid X<Y)=frac{E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})}{P(X<Y)}=2E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})$$



    And



    begin{align}
    E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})&=iint xmathbf1_{x<y}f_{X,Y}(x,y),dx,dy
    end{align}






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      Concerning your mistake see the comment of StubbornAtom.



      Note that $P(X<Y)=frac12$ by symmetry, so that:



      $$frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)Pleft(X<Yright)=mathbb{E}Xmathbf{1}_{X<Y}=int_{0}^{1}int_{0}^{y}xdxdy=$$$$int_{0}^{1}frac{1}{2}y^{2}dy=left[frac{1}{6}y^{3}right]_{0}^{1}=frac{1}{6}$$



      So the correct answer is: $$mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=frac{1}{3}$$






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        Concerning your mistake see the comment of StubbornAtom.



        Note that $P(X<Y)=frac12$ by symmetry, so that:



        $$frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)Pleft(X<Yright)=mathbb{E}Xmathbf{1}_{X<Y}=int_{0}^{1}int_{0}^{y}xdxdy=$$$$int_{0}^{1}frac{1}{2}y^{2}dy=left[frac{1}{6}y^{3}right]_{0}^{1}=frac{1}{6}$$



        So the correct answer is: $$mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=frac{1}{3}$$






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          Concerning your mistake see the comment of StubbornAtom.



          Note that $P(X<Y)=frac12$ by symmetry, so that:



          $$frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)Pleft(X<Yright)=mathbb{E}Xmathbf{1}_{X<Y}=int_{0}^{1}int_{0}^{y}xdxdy=$$$$int_{0}^{1}frac{1}{2}y^{2}dy=left[frac{1}{6}y^{3}right]_{0}^{1}=frac{1}{6}$$



          So the correct answer is: $$mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=frac{1}{3}$$






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          Concerning your mistake see the comment of StubbornAtom.



          Note that $P(X<Y)=frac12$ by symmetry, so that:



          $$frac{1}{2}mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)Pleft(X<Yright)=mathbb{E}Xmathbf{1}_{X<Y}=int_{0}^{1}int_{0}^{y}xdxdy=$$$$int_{0}^{1}frac{1}{2}y^{2}dy=left[frac{1}{6}y^{3}right]_{0}^{1}=frac{1}{6}$$



          So the correct answer is: $$mathbb{E}left(Xmid X<Yright)=frac{1}{3}$$







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              We have $$E(Xmid X<Y)=frac{E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})}{P(X<Y)}=2E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})$$



              And



              begin{align}
              E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})&=iint xmathbf1_{x<y}f_{X,Y}(x,y),dx,dy
              end{align}






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                We have $$E(Xmid X<Y)=frac{E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})}{P(X<Y)}=2E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})$$



                And



                begin{align}
                E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})&=iint xmathbf1_{x<y}f_{X,Y}(x,y),dx,dy
                end{align}






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                  We have $$E(Xmid X<Y)=frac{E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})}{P(X<Y)}=2E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})$$



                  And



                  begin{align}
                  E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})&=iint xmathbf1_{x<y}f_{X,Y}(x,y),dx,dy
                  end{align}






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                  We have $$E(Xmid X<Y)=frac{E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})}{P(X<Y)}=2E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})$$



                  And



                  begin{align}
                  E(Xmathbf1_{X<Y})&=iint xmathbf1_{x<y}f_{X,Y}(x,y),dx,dy
                  end{align}







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