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I have to find the range of $4^{sin(x)}+ 2^{sin(x)+3}=2^{2sin(x)}+ 8cdot2^{sin(x)}$.
Let's take $y=2^{sin x}$, so we rewrite the equation as $y^2+8y=0$.
The range of this function is $[-16,+infty) $, however, I get $2^{sin x}=-16$ and that's there I'm stuck.
I have a similar problem with $9^x+12cdot3^x+27$. I rewrite it as $x^2+12x+27$. The range is $[-9, infty)$ and I don't know how to apply this to the actual problem.










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    I have to find the range of $4^{sin(x)}+ 2^{sin(x)+3}=2^{2sin(x)}+ 8cdot2^{sin(x)}$.
    Let's take $y=2^{sin x}$, so we rewrite the equation as $y^2+8y=0$.
    The range of this function is $[-16,+infty) $, however, I get $2^{sin x}=-16$ and that's there I'm stuck.
    I have a similar problem with $9^x+12cdot3^x+27$. I rewrite it as $x^2+12x+27$. The range is $[-9, infty)$ and I don't know how to apply this to the actual problem.










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      I have to find the range of $4^{sin(x)}+ 2^{sin(x)+3}=2^{2sin(x)}+ 8cdot2^{sin(x)}$.
      Let's take $y=2^{sin x}$, so we rewrite the equation as $y^2+8y=0$.
      The range of this function is $[-16,+infty) $, however, I get $2^{sin x}=-16$ and that's there I'm stuck.
      I have a similar problem with $9^x+12cdot3^x+27$. I rewrite it as $x^2+12x+27$. The range is $[-9, infty)$ and I don't know how to apply this to the actual problem.










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      I have to find the range of $4^{sin(x)}+ 2^{sin(x)+3}=2^{2sin(x)}+ 8cdot2^{sin(x)}$.
      Let's take $y=2^{sin x}$, so we rewrite the equation as $y^2+8y=0$.
      The range of this function is $[-16,+infty) $, however, I get $2^{sin x}=-16$ and that's there I'm stuck.
      I have a similar problem with $9^x+12cdot3^x+27$. I rewrite it as $x^2+12x+27$. The range is $[-9, infty)$ and I don't know how to apply this to the actual problem.







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          Your way of computing the range by using quadratic functions is correct, but you should take care of the domain once you change the variable from $x$ to $y$ because $y=2^{sin(x)}$ can only assume values on $[2^{-1},2]$. Try to decide the range of $y^2+8y$ with domain restricted to $[2^{-1},2]$.






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          • So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
            – Lowkey
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          • Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 1:57












          • If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:07












          • Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 2:09












          • I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:17











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          Your way of computing the range by using quadratic functions is correct, but you should take care of the domain once you change the variable from $x$ to $y$ because $y=2^{sin(x)}$ can only assume values on $[2^{-1},2]$. Try to decide the range of $y^2+8y$ with domain restricted to $[2^{-1},2]$.






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          • So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 1:54










          • Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 1:57












          • If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:07












          • Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 2:09












          • I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:17















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          Your way of computing the range by using quadratic functions is correct, but you should take care of the domain once you change the variable from $x$ to $y$ because $y=2^{sin(x)}$ can only assume values on $[2^{-1},2]$. Try to decide the range of $y^2+8y$ with domain restricted to $[2^{-1},2]$.






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          • So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 1:54










          • Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 1:57












          • If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:07












          • Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 2:09












          • I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:17













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          Your way of computing the range by using quadratic functions is correct, but you should take care of the domain once you change the variable from $x$ to $y$ because $y=2^{sin(x)}$ can only assume values on $[2^{-1},2]$. Try to decide the range of $y^2+8y$ with domain restricted to $[2^{-1},2]$.






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          Your way of computing the range by using quadratic functions is correct, but you should take care of the domain once you change the variable from $x$ to $y$ because $y=2^{sin(x)}$ can only assume values on $[2^{-1},2]$. Try to decide the range of $y^2+8y$ with domain restricted to $[2^{-1},2]$.







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          • So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 1:54










          • Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 1:57












          • If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:07












          • Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 2:09












          • I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:17


















          • So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 1:54










          • Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 1:57












          • If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:07












          • Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
            – Apocalypse
            Nov 16 at 2:09












          • I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
            – Lowkey
            Nov 16 at 2:17
















          So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
          – Lowkey
          Nov 16 at 1:54




          So I just calculate $y^2+8y$ on 1/2 and 2?
          – Lowkey
          Nov 16 at 1:54












          Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
          – Apocalypse
          Nov 16 at 1:57






          Make sure you understand what will happen when you change variables from $x$ to $y=f(x)$: the domain of the new variable $y$ need to be the range of the function $f(x)$. That's exactly where you get stuck, because $2^{sin(x)}$ can never assume value -16.
          – Apocalypse
          Nov 16 at 1:57














          If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
          – Lowkey
          Nov 16 at 2:07






          If I understand correctly, since the range of $2^(sin^(x))$ is $[1/2,2]$, and y is monotonic and increasing in $[1/2, 2]$, f(1/2) and f(2) will be the minimum and maximum.
          – Lowkey
          Nov 16 at 2:07














          Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
          – Apocalypse
          Nov 16 at 2:09






          Exactly, by the way it should be “the range of $2^{sin(x)}$ is [1/2,2]”, the domain of $2^{sin(x)}$ is still the domain of $sin(x)$ which is $mathbb{R}$, but I think you understand it.
          – Apocalypse
          Nov 16 at 2:09














          I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
          – Lowkey
          Nov 16 at 2:17




          I can apply this to the second problem, right? the range of $3^x$ is $(0, ∞)$, and f is increasing in that interval, so f(0)=27 will be the minimum. Thanks alot!
          – Lowkey
          Nov 16 at 2:17


















           

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